Talk:The Dorilton/GA1

GA Review

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Nominator: Epicgenius (talk · contribs) 00:37, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Reviewer: Found5dollar (talk · contribs) 18:37, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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The Dorilton is one of my favorite buildings in the city, and I am so excited to see it up for GA. I haven't done a review in a while but happy to take this on. It will likely take me a few days to comb through the article. --Found5dollar (talk) 18:37, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Lead

• the term "housing cooperative" is linked twice in the lead
  • Oops, I've fixed that. Epicgenius (talk) 02:10, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
• "The unit contained decorations" is this supposed to be plural or are you talking about the lobby or one specific unit?
  • It was supposed to be plural. I fixed this as well. Epicgenius (talk) 02:10, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
• "Storefronts on the ground floor were added after 1919, many decorative elements were removed or had deteriorated by the 1950s." These two thoughts should either be connected with an "and" or "but" or separated into two sentences.
  • I added "and" to this as well. Thanks for taking up the review. Epicgenius (talk) 02:10, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Site

• This might get answered later in the article, but I feel like this section is missing a sentence or two about the site before the introduction of the street grid and Broadway. Was it a farm? A housing estate? woodland? Lenape land?
  • This was part of a neighborhood called Harsenville, which seems to have been a farming community. I've added this to the History section. Epicgenius (talk) 14:51, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
• In the list of adjacent/nearby buildings and spaces should Sherman Square be mentioned?
  • Yes, it should. I've added it. Epicgenius (talk) 14:51, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Architecture

• "New York City" and "Broadway" are already linked in the "site" section. they should not be linked here again.
• "by Janes & Leo, the New York City-based architectural firm of Elisha Harris Janes and Richard Leopold Leo" Id suggest removing the full names of the architects, you basically name them twice in this sentence.
• "The Dorilton is twelve stories high; the facade rises ten stories before the mansard roof." are there any levels below ground?
• Your description of the entrance gateway is lovely but I find myself wanting to reference an image of it as I read the section about it. I'd suggest moving the image of the gateway up to this section.
• "The ground and second stories of the facade are clad with rusticated blocks of limestone" it would likely be helpful to link to Rustication (architecture).
• "The ground level contains storefronts facing Broadway.[13][18] Historical photographs indicate that the ground level facade on Broadway originally contained windows.[19]" These sentences should probably be swapped. talk about how the building originally was designed, then how it is currently used.
• I don't know if there is anything to be done, but the link to three-centered arch is a bit confusing, I cant find that term anywhere on the page. I'm assuming it is just an arch with three different center points, but a wikilink should clarify not further obscure a term.
• "which is supported by a steel truss." is this truss visible or is it hidden within the arch? Aka does the truss physically or visually support the arch?
• last paragraph of "form and facade" describes several elements that were removed. I'd love to know when they were removed.
• "Originally, the Dorilton's entrance vestibule was decorated with putti that flanked a cartouche, similar to the motifs above the center section of the 71st Street gateway." are the putti still there or were they removed?
• "Many of the apartments were illuminated by the curved oriel windows of the facade." Earlier you call these windows "bay windows" and I was taught there is a strict difference between the two (a bay window leaves a "bay" in the floor plan of the room where an oriel is set within the wall). I could be mistaken on the terms usages, but it would be helpful to keep one term and stick with it when referencing these windows.
• I would pipe the link to Duplex (building) to Duplex_(building)#US as the beginning of that article is about the other kind of duplex

Citations

• passed article through earwig. no copyright violations found.--Found5dollar (talk) 14:15, 2 May 2024 (UTC)