User talk:फ़िलप्रो

Indian English

Hi Filpro, Could you please add "Indian English" template in the talk page of these India related articles here / here / here User:Sro23 has removed that template despite knowing those articles are all written in Indian English. Thanks--103.52.255.113 (talk) 05:59, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Meh, the user doesn't seem to be causing any harm. Filpro (talk) 18:29, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Yeah thats right but why he is removing "Indian English" template from talk page am unable to understand. I thought may be you could readd that template in articles which you think is appropriate. For eg "talk:indian navy" and "talk:indian air force" article u recently added Indian English template if u check history u will come to know that the template has been removed multiple times. So please go through the India relatd article from the list that i proved and check if "Indian English"template required or not. Thanks--103.42.173.155 (talk) 04:45, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Maghreb countries and French

Hi! I read this edit - while French may not be a "recognized national language" it is clearly de facto a significant language in the country (French language in Morocco). Next time for Morocco, Algeria, and Tunisia please ensure it's listed in "other languages" WhisperToMe (talk) 04:23, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

 Sure. Thanks for notifying me. Filpro (talk) 15:29, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

Language categories

Hi, I see that you're working on language categories so I thought I should bring it to your attention that it's usually best if the names of categories (like Category:Dialects of Punjabi) follow the name of the corresponding article (Punjabi dialects in this case). It's not just for consistency, article titles are usually subject to greater scrutiny than category names, and sometimes there are differences in meaning that might not be apparent at first sight. A "dialect of X" usually implies the position of "X" as an established standard prestigious language for these dialects; whereas "X dialect" has a broader scope and can also include macrolanguages/dialect clusters, where such a relationship might, or might not hold. – Uanfala (talk) 19:58, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

I agree. "X dialect" would be much better. I will move the category soon. Thanks. Filpro (talk) 20:04, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

You're renaming it now? That's fast! Thank you for your understanding and diligence. – Uanfala (talk) 20:13, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Problamistic User Uanfala

It had been extended edit war by Uanfala [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] .

• Despite nearly 10 Wikipedians not agreeing with his views on talk pages of effected Talk pages.
• He cherry picks and tries to define dialects in to Language.
• Wikipedia is not a dictionary.
• Wikipedians can not cherry pick.
• Wikipedians can not impose a point a view.
• Wikipedians move with consensus.
• Wikipedia is an informational project. It can not misguide about language hierarchy.
• Only standardisation of few dialects can not make them language. However few follow this rule for defining Hindko Saraiki Potwari as language. He cherry pick those.
• Even those "few" along with "opposite others" have details whether "Explicit" or "Implicit" which demonstrate a common hierarchy Language Family: Indo European, Branch: Indo Iranian, Sub branch: Indo Aryan, Macro Language: Punjabi, Language: Western Punjabi, Dialects: Potwari Hindko Saraiki and many others, Sub dialects: North Hindko South Hindko.
• All such linguistic sources are mentioned / added by many wikipedians.
• If we accept Uanfala version of "cherry pick" and "Defining" then we will end up with a dilemma mentioned by User Flipro on this move request for 30 odd Punjabi dialects [6].

Time to report User Uanfala for topic ban for Cherry picking, Forum shoping, Edit warring, ignoring talk page consensus on western punjabi diffrent dialect talk pages. Please you being a registered senior editor start the proceeding for Topic Ban and violation of 3Rs. 39.60.232.41 (talk) 01:32, 2 November 2016 (UTC)₯€₠€₯

The above message was also posted on the talk pages of several other users, and it has already received responses on Andy Wang's and on Paine Ellsworth's. – Uanfala (talk) 10:10, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Andaman and Nicobar Islands

Hi Filpro, Please explain why you deleted the name Andaman and Nicobar Islands in Bengali language? talk —Preceding undated comment added 15:08, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

It isn't an official language but you can add it back if it really matters. Filpro (talk) 20:19, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Western Punjabi

Hi, you're welcome to comment here: Talk:Western Punjabi#Proper topic of article. – Uanfala (talk) 12:15, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Asian Paints Ltd

Hi @Filpro:, @Jethwarp:, @Kailash29792:, @Dharmadhyaksha: I have created a new article Asian Paints Ltd, could pls help develop it as early as possible because one user wants to delete it why I don't know.--Shashipushpa (talk) 14:29, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

I think @Lourdes: has handled the situation. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:40, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

Yes I did. Thanks. Lourdes 05:42, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks guys.--Shashipushpa (talk) 04:55, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Saraiki dialect of Punjabi Language

• User Uanfala is trying to declare different Punjabi dialect as separate language. [7]
• He Cherry picks, Forum shops, Edit wars and ignores talk page consensus on western Punjabi different dialect talk pages.
• An RFC Saraiki is a Language has just concluded with no consensus. So you being a senior registered editor please restore pre dispute version of Saraiki dialect article [8].
• Also please make corrections to Hindko dialect and Potwari-Pahari dialect in same fashion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.50.69.203 (talk) 17:39, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

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Reference errors on 24 November

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kashmir

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Khanda

Sikh article, quote "The greater Punjab region is the historic homeland of the Sikhs, although significant communities exist around the world."

Khalistan article, quote "The Punjab region has been the traditional homeland for the Sikhs."

The Khanda is a symbol of the Sikh nation and Punjab, which represents the Punjabi and Sikh people and their homeland.

Peeta Singh (talk) 23:43, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

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Golden Temple

Hi, Filpro. I ran across this edit from last year, in which you wiped out the whole disambiguation page to create a redirect to Harmandir Sahib. You cited WP:COMMONNAME in the edit summary, but what you did was really a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT, where the title of a dab page is turned into a redirect to the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Making a change like that is usually done after consensus is reached in a requested move discussion. Then the dab page is moved to the same title with "(disambiguation)" in the title (in this case, Golden Temple (disambiguation)).

Besides lack of consensus, the method you used didn't take the contents of the disambiguation page into account, leaving readers on their own to find similarly named articles. I have created the dab page again at Golden Temple (disambiguation), and placed a hatnote at Harmandir Sahib so people can find it if they want to. Please don't unilaterally decide on a primary topic or delete content without discussing it first. Thanks. — Gorthian (talk) 02:31, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

December 2016

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FriyMan, removing unsourced content isn't really considered as unconstructive editing. – Uanfala (talk) 11:10, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Uanfala, I am still learning, Thank you for your feedback. - FriyMan (talk) 11:29, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Infobox skyline

Hi again. What is your reasoning? I genuinely thought you made a mistake the last time to removed it because it was initially started by a sockpuppet said it's per MOS but clearly had no guidelines to cite--refer to his talk page. Now you're doing it again? You are an experienced editor. Why? I can't keep WP:AGFing you at this rate.

PS:"Nicknames" by definition a never official, they are sourced in Kerala, and this is the second time you're removing them too. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 09:55, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

List of countries by number of Internet users

Hello. Why did you revert all infos from 2015. to 2013? List_of_countries_by_number_of_Internet_users

I made new stats from official ITU and World bank source, so why did you move back to old infos? Only thing which miss in table of 2015. is ranking by %, precisely % ranking should be corrected and I don't have time for that now. All other things are correct, so revert back to my infos.

There are official info for 2014., but I went immediately to 2015. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.45.203.240 (talk) 11:55, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Saraiki RM

Hi, there's a move discussion at Talk:Saraiki dialect, where you're welcome to participate. Thanks! – Uanfala (talk) 02:55, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

India map reverseal

About your reversal, is there something wrong with the disputed areas color ? I propose that the displayed country controlled, but disputed, areas be colored with a darker tone of yellow. The displayed country claimed area, but not controlled, with a darker gray. The reason is that otherwise there are editors that delete the maps altogether, claiming that the maps are wrong, as here. Where is the discussion about map color ? Note that I haven't lost any SVG layer. --Robertiki (talk) 02:58, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Those editors may not have the full grasp of the de facto Kahsmir situation and I'd revert their edits and point them to various discussions on the maps. I don't think it puts a good view for the viewers if Jammu and Kashmir is randomly shaded yellow and unncessarily highlgihts the map and distracts from the whole point of these pushpin maps. (Example: If I'm looking at Gorakhpur Nuclear Power Plant at the article Nuclear power in India, it would be ridiculous for the state to be highlighted.) If India's Kashmir is shaded yellow, then China's and Pakistan's Kashmir should also be for their maps. Also, in your map, Siachen Glacier and Demjok are oddly left out when they should be shaded yellow. Filpro (talk) 21:57, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Is there a place discussing on the maps ? I understand that the highlights are distracting (I would agree), but those editors are sometimes really pesky, bothering the other editors to exhaustion with their whims, and deleting useful information. About the colors, my first choice of color are too bright, maybe something duller, less distracting, could do the job of keeping them quiet. And you are correct, all maps should reflect the same rules (China map would have Aksai Chin a different shade of yellow and Arunachal Pradesh a different shade of gray, and so on). And you are also correct, I forgot to place Siachen Glacier and Demjok. --Robertiki (talk) 23:37, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Have modified it with duller color. Could it be acceptable ? If it is ok, I would create China_location_map_disputed.svg with same rules. --Robertiki (talk) 01:39, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay. I think the latest one is good. Also don't forget to shade in Siachen and Demjok! Thanks. Filpro (talk) 21:08, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

I'm not too sure about the Kashmir-related discussions to point to and I don't think I can dig up any right now but you can also consult the India and Pakistan noticeboards. Filpro (talk) 21:15, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Done also for China] as you may verify here. Pakistan map] is not layered and needs more work. --Robertiki (talk) 01:41, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I made a few corrections to the maps and you can check them out. Please notify me if I made any mistakes. Filpro (talk) 03:40, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

January 2017

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South Zone

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Western Punjabi

Sir,

I would like to know the processes of relisting. Specifically here [9]. It is close and shut case. I request you to decline the move with following reasons:

• Denial Ground one The term Lahnda ab initio is a Punjabi translation of western Punjabi. It was used for simplicity instead of full version Western Punjabi. It was used for very first time in LSI. The Linguistic Survey of India, abbreviation is LSI, It is THE ONLY COMPREHENSIVE SURVEY of the languages of India which took many years. (Note : Others were limited to book writing and lacked comprehensive ground work) It described 364 languages and dialects. The Survey was first proposed by George Abraham Grierson, a member of the Indian Civil Service and a linguist who attended the Seventh International Oriental Congress held at Vienna in September 1886.

 

He made a proposal of the linguistic survey and it was initially turned down by the Government of India. After persisting and demonstrating that it could be done using the existing network of government officials at a reasonable cost, it was approved in 1891. It was however formally begun only in 1894 and the survey continued for thirty years with the last of the results being published in 1928.

 

An on-line searchable database of the LSI is available, providing an excerpt for each word as it appeared in Grierson's original publication. In addition, the British Library has gramophone recordings in its sound archive which document the phonology.

 

• Denial Ground two Volume 8 of LSI deals with Western Punjabi. Which was Punjabi version of Muslim population. It was high in Arabic, Turkish and Persian loan words but lacked Sanskrit and used Shah mukhi writing system. Other one spoken in Eastern side was full on Sanskrit using Devnagri and Gurumukhi writing system spoken by Sikhs and Hindus. Religious vocabulary also differed in both cases as well as cultural impact was also 180 degree. Both side local name it Punjabi being spoken on the land of Punjab. They distinguish it as eastern and western . Lahnda has no local currency. According to WP:COMMONNAME the Lahnda can not replace western Punjabi.

• Denial Ground three The Western Punjabi Wikipedia is based off this. To have the article named "Lahnda" when it is more commonly known as Western Punjabi is misleading.