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- Hello @Nick: now it's working sir. Thanks alot you are really helpful. C1K98V (talk) 18:53, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
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Hi C1K98V. After reviewing your request for "rollbacker", I have temporarily enabled rollback on your account until {{{expiry}}}. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:
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January 2021
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 14:59, 3 January 2021 (UTC)C1K98V (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Yes I accept. It's my fault. I did copyright violation. But my intention was never to do something like spamming or advertising. I really don't want to violate any policy. I'm feeling guilty for violating the policy. But I never did all these in bad faith. I know my way is wrong. Yes, after you reject the submission I read the draft and found that you're right and it's not in a neutral tone. I paraphrase while creating the draft. All the reference and source which I provided, I tried to paraphrase from there only to create a draft. I understood my mistake, as I was trying to paraphrase text from sources which are not free or in public domain and also I didn't try to write in my own words. I'm blocked for these reasons. But honestly, I would never ever again do such things and I'm ready to rectify and correct my mistake whatever I did. I know copyright violation is strictly not allowed in wikipedia. And I really apologize from the bottom of my heart that I will never do it ever again. Please I humbly request you give me a chance to show and I promise I won't let you down and neither the community. Please consider my request and believe in me, I will try my level best to become a good editor. If granted unblock I assure you, I will always assume good faith and refrain making any edit that would violate copyright. I have learnt from my mistake, and would never repeat it again. Thank you. C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 16:03, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
Accept reason:
see blow Magog the Ogre (t • c) 00:15, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- I understand that what I did was wrong. I should never begin with such. But I did. I'm responsible for my block. And that's the reason I'm blocked. I know owning the mistake won't clean the mess which I created, but understanding the mistake before it's too late and willingness to help out and remove the copyright violation, should be the one and it's my top priority now if given a chance. Thanks --C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 02:21, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- You haven't answered the question of why you did it in the first place. I imagine any reviewing admin will expect the answer to this question. Waggie (talk) 03:04, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- I never intend to do this, either for first place or doing it continuously. Its my faults that I misunderstood the policy and didn't tried to write in own words rather than paraphrase text from the source which I used. Everybody does mistake and as human mistake are commons. And I accept it consequences are harsh. I have learnt from my mistake. If given a chance I would like to correct and clean up the contents which are not suitable to be on wikipedia. I assume in good faith and would like to give assurance to community that you will not see any mistake from my side ever again. Thank you. --C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 03:16, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- I have been reading other similar articles and have been trying to make my articles to look like them. I was blocked for copyvios and going through the article Draft:Kaatelal & Sons again I identified 2 types of copyvios. The first type is a short quote directly marked as quotes and reading Wikipedia:Quotations I belived the quote to be okay because I think it was relevant, short and there was a source. The second type are short sentences with facts and resumes of the content not marked as direct quotes. On Wikipedia:Quotations#Copyrighted_material_and_fair_use they mention 400 words and damaging sales as a reason where a quote was not okay. In my article I used short sentences of about 45 words and I thought it was okay because it was short and not revealing any breaking news and therefore not thought to damage anyone’s sales. I did not mark it as quotes because it was short and I saw it as simple facts. If you see other problems in the article I would be grateful if you could tell me what problems. I have done the same in other articles so if I’m unblocked I will definitely go through the other articles and make sure there not similar problems in those, If their is any problem I will like to take initiative to fix it. Thanks --C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 10:17, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- I was reading about fair use -- we don't have the concept of fair use on commons, where I am most active at. But I did not understand the difference between fair use and copyright violation ends. I am still learning about fair use and to avoid this in future, I will refrain from adding anything fair use, unless I properly understand it. --C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 03:57, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- I have been reading other similar articles and have been trying to make my articles to look like them. I was blocked for copyvios and going through the article Draft:Kaatelal & Sons again I identified 2 types of copyvios. The first type is a short quote directly marked as quotes and reading Wikipedia:Quotations I belived the quote to be okay because I think it was relevant, short and there was a source. The second type are short sentences with facts and resumes of the content not marked as direct quotes. On Wikipedia:Quotations#Copyrighted_material_and_fair_use they mention 400 words and damaging sales as a reason where a quote was not okay. In my article I used short sentences of about 45 words and I thought it was okay because it was short and not revealing any breaking news and therefore not thought to damage anyone’s sales. I did not mark it as quotes because it was short and I saw it as simple facts. If you see other problems in the article I would be grateful if you could tell me what problems. I have done the same in other articles so if I’m unblocked I will definitely go through the other articles and make sure there not similar problems in those, If their is any problem I will like to take initiative to fix it. Thanks --C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 10:17, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- I never intend to do this, either for first place or doing it continuously. Its my faults that I misunderstood the policy and didn't tried to write in own words rather than paraphrase text from the source which I used. Everybody does mistake and as human mistake are commons. And I accept it consequences are harsh. I have learnt from my mistake. If given a chance I would like to correct and clean up the contents which are not suitable to be on wikipedia. I assume in good faith and would like to give assurance to community that you will not see any mistake from my side ever again. Thank you. --C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 03:16, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- You haven't answered the question of why you did it in the first place. I imagine any reviewing admin will expect the answer to this question. Waggie (talk) 03:04, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- I have been contacted at Commons by C1K98V where I was asked to look into this matter. @AmandaNP: I don't see any warnings about copyright infringements on this talk page prior to the block, so an indef seems a bit harsh to me. I am also inclined to believe that they confused the concept of fair use with applying original content very liberally. C1K98V was blocked two weeks ago and has had time to reflect their edits, and what I see looks like they have learned their lesson. So, would you be opposed to unblocking? De728631 (talk) 03:22, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- @De728631: An indef was required because it went way beyond the one or two articles. My primary other concerns relate to UPE. C1K98V was 1 of 2 people that magically showed up on my talkpage about an article I G5'd because it was a sock creation from another UPE network. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:00, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
- @AmandaNP and De728631: As you said primary concern, I would like to say that I'm not editing for payment, nor associated with anyone. I never did and will never engage in such things. I read few articles and like the concept so I joined and started editing. I don't know what is magical in it. If I see vandalism somewhere, I would try to help out, if I can. I find out that the article was live and deleted and you're last admins who did this adminstrative action [1]. So I reached out to you. I misunderstood policy and I regret doing so. I made edit in good faith to contribute. I understand my mistake that I unintentionally violated the policy. But if given a chance I will be greatful and refrain from doing such mistake ever again. Thanks for your consideration. --C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 04:47, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- @De728631: An indef was required because it went way beyond the one or two articles. My primary other concerns relate to UPE. C1K98V was 1 of 2 people that magically showed up on my talkpage about an article I G5'd because it was a sock creation from another UPE network. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 20:00, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
- I have been contacted at Commons by C1K98V where I was asked to look into this matter. @AmandaNP: I don't see any warnings about copyright infringements on this talk page prior to the block, so an indef seems a bit harsh to me. I am also inclined to believe that they confused the concept of fair use with applying original content very liberally. C1K98V was blocked two weeks ago and has had time to reflect their edits, and what I see looks like they have learned their lesson. So, would you be opposed to unblocking? De728631 (talk) 03:22, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- @AmandaNP, De728631, and Waggie: Hello all. I randomly heard of this issue on IRC. I am a bit surprised that even in response to De728631's inquiry, even after some days, that there has still not been the naming of even a single specific infraction that C1K98V has done. You said "concerns relate to" without naming them. Why are you talking like this and what is this supposed to even mean? Are you trying to articulate a question as to whether C1K98V has committed WP:UPE, or who or what? Is this all even done in accordance with any policy? There was no warning, there is is no good faith followup whatsoever, there is no accounting for the possibility of a huge administrative error in the pursuit of great justice. You said "it went way beyond the one or two articles" so can we get any update with links to said articles or the copyvio diff? C1K98V hasn't edited many articles recently. You said there were unnamed things on your Talk page but I don't see anything relevant except for his gracious and unanswered solicitation for your guidance. I am just stumped by your vagueness and apparent abandonment, and I can hardly even decipher your words. It sounds like he made a very basic newbie mistake in the world that Wikipedians are all recruited and thrown into with no training, plus maybe a coincidence with some other abuse that you were investigating from someone else. What am I missing? Did you run a checkuser to compare C1K98V's IP address or any other sort of test? Did you get busy or why did you disappear and never answer anyone? C1K98V has been very earnest and may want to list some recent productive contributions to Commons and wikidata, and propose some exact new edits to Wikipedia in order to demonstrate non-infraction and competency. Thank you. — Smuckola(talk) 11:13, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- I listed a few articles for copyvio on the CCI I requested for the user. Also, my talkpage section I was talking about was User_talk:AmandaNP#Sony_Sab_'s_TV_series_"Kaatelaal_&_Sons" vs. User_talk:AmandaNP#Kaatelal_&_Sons where I deleted it before for G5. They also recreated one by the same sockmaster Hero – Gayab Mode On after I G5'd the draft. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 23:29, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- De728631, As for the CCI, I would like to say that, the article Hero which I created was when the show was on air. I didn't knew anything about sockmaster or the afd of the article see [2]. If I had known I would have surely tried to follow the policy. Regarding the Katelaal & sons, I accept that I didn't write in my own words and tried doing paraphrasing. About the third article listed their, I just fixed the cast section with sourcing and used refill tool. And for the last article please have a look at my discussion [3]. That's all what I did in the last month before getting blocked. I'm not doing any paid editing, or aware of any sockmaster. Thank you C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 03:40, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
- We're now 27 days since the original block. A summary of what I've seen so far:
- Amanda provided no warnings.
- Amanda blocked indefinitely for copyvios. Amanda claimed this was necessary due to how egregious it was.
- Amanda has been asked for evidence including diffs several times.
- Amanda has provided only articles, not diffs as requested.
- Amanda provided at least one article where there was no copyvio (Yeh Jawani Ta Ra Ri Ri). A cursory look at the history of others leaves it doubtful about how bad it was also.
- Amanda has given vague statements about sockpuppetry without much evidence.
- Amanda never indicated she ran a checkuser.
- Given the OP's contrition, the input from the other administrators, the positive contribution from this user across projects (10K+ x-wiki edits), consensus here seems to be that the block was excessive.
- Since Amanda never indicated this is a {{checkuserblock}}, it is within my power to review, and I have accepted the unblock request. Magog the Ogre (t • c) 00:15, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- We're now 27 days since the original block. A summary of what I've seen so far:
- De728631, As for the CCI, I would like to say that, the article Hero which I created was when the show was on air. I didn't knew anything about sockmaster or the afd of the article see [2]. If I had known I would have surely tried to follow the policy. Regarding the Katelaal & sons, I accept that I didn't write in my own words and tried doing paraphrasing. About the third article listed their, I just fixed the cast section with sourcing and used refill tool. And for the last article please have a look at my discussion [3]. That's all what I did in the last month before getting blocked. I'm not doing any paid editing, or aware of any sockmaster. Thank you C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 03:40, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
- I listed a few articles for copyvio on the CCI I requested for the user. Also, my talkpage section I was talking about was User_talk:AmandaNP#Sony_Sab_'s_TV_series_"Kaatelaal_&_Sons" vs. User_talk:AmandaNP#Kaatelal_&_Sons where I deleted it before for G5. They also recreated one by the same sockmaster Hero – Gayab Mode On after I G5'd the draft. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 23:29, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
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Continued copyright violations
Hi, C1K98V. Last year, you were blocked for copyright violations. I recognize that that block was overturned as excessive, but I also note that at least four copyright violations were found. After you contacted me regarding Pri2000's allegations against you of copyright violation, I devoted a fair amount of time to looking through your recent edits and seeing if Pri2000 is correct. I found:
- Special:Diff/1085734395 to Gud Se Meetha Ishq, on 2 May, copies verbatim from [4], cached 30 April
- Special:DIff/1085739822 to Woh Toh Hai Albelaa, also on 2 May, copies verbatim from [5], cached 6 April
- Special:Diff/1085748322 to Qubool Hai, also on 2 May, copies verbatim from [6], cached a mere 15 hours later. Given that the site in question seems to be pulling from an official feed, I see it as very unlikely that someone there copied from the article in those 15 hours.
TV listing plot summaries are usually only indexed by Google if it happens to crawl a page of plot listings at the right time. As such, I don't take the absence of results when Googling other plot summaries as evidence that they are original to you. Rather, the fact that all of the plot summaries you add use the same vague teaser-y tone ubiquitous in TV listings for Indian soap operas (e.g. "Later, Krishna is left shocked when he witnesses something unexpected") leads me to the conclusion that most or all are copied or closely paraphrased from official listings. This is supported by some evidence I've found of close paraphrasing, like Special:Diff/1085739898 vs. [7].
I know you've said you're writing these from scratch. Maybe you're not intending to copy anything. Maybe you're trying to loosely paraphrase and instead copying outright by accident on occasion. Indian soap opera episode summaries are so formulaic that I can see how that might happen. But, regardless of intent, it's clear that you are violating copyrights, either by verbatim copying or close paraphrasing, and I see no reason to think it's limited to those three cases that happen to turn up in Google's cache.
You are a net-positive to this project, and I do not want to see you get copyright-blocked, but it's clear to me that you are unable to write plot summaries without infringing copyrights. As such, I am taking the following actions:
- I am removing all episode plot summaries from the shows linked above, and once you've had the chance to respond to this will RD1 revdel them.
- I'll be moving to reopen the CCI, since my review here has been far from thorough.
- You may consider this a final warning for copyright violations. I would strongly encourage you to simply not edit plot summaries going forward, since it seems to be where your weakness lies. I don't want to block a constructive contributor, but if I see you posting copyvio plot summaries again, I'm not sure I'll really have a choice.
I understand that this is an unpleasant message to receive, and it brings me no joy to leave it. I hope that you will take my words to heart, and focus more on other areas of your editing. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 05:39, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- Tamzin - I reviewed Special:Diff/1085739898 vs. source, and I don't see the copyvio? In the diff, C1K98V adds, "On the auspicious occasion of Holi, the Choudharys perform a puja. However, the family is unaware of the imminent threat". When I navigate to the source and look through the summary on episode 2 (where the summary is added), not only is it completely different, but I don't see that summary (I searched through the page for the word 'auspicious') anywhere. Can you point me to what I may be missing? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:13, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Oshwah: Sorry, my mistake. It's in one of the thumbnails, but I should have linked to the actual page for that episode: "On the occasion of Holi, the Choudharys perform a puja at the temple, unaware of lurking danger!". (As to why that's in episode 1 according to Apple TV but episode 2 in the summaries C1K added, I don't know.) -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 06:17, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- Tamzin - I dunno, man (not assuming gender lol)... "On the auspicious occasion of Holi, the Choudharys perform a puja. However, the family is unaware of the imminent threat" (diff) vs "Meet Krishna and his loving brothers, Chiranjeev and Nakul. On the occasion of Holi, the Choudharys perform a puja at the temple, unaware of lurking danger" (source), the only exact match between the two is "Holi, the Choudharys perform a puja". That... could be argued, but I tend to look at the context as a whole in these regards. The first sentence from the source isn't used at all in the diff. The second sentence adds "auspicious" and "at the temple". Okay, that could be argued that the user took that sentence from the source and added these things. I'm... on the fence... about whether or not that could constitute a copyvio, leaning "no" in my opinion. The last sentence (in the diff, or the second sentence after the comma in the source) seems okay to me. My take is that C1K98V probably did use these summaries as a base and reference when writing these summaries, but copyvio? My thoughts here regarding that example (if I can express it with words... lol) is "....ehhhhh... *shrugs one shoulder a few times*". I think that close paraphrasing can be defined as, "if we can tell that this is probably where you got this information (by adding words, adding to the sentence, etc), then it's close paraphrasing", and this does fit.
I can definitely say that a good general rule that constitutes copyvio is direct copypasta. Meh... I dunno. Is this the only instance where this is found? Is there more? Are there any "smoking guns"?What are your thoughts regarding this example? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:33, 11 May 2022 (UTC)- @Oshwah: Perhaps you missed the start of my comment? I linked to three verbatim copyvios. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 06:40, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- Tamzin Yeah, I did - just haven't looked yet. Those first two questions were dumb, since you obviously have already posted other examples in your original statement. ;-) They are now stricken out. The last question still stands in regards to your thoughts/beliefs. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:59, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- I didn't mean to suggest that that one case of close paraphrasing was, on its own, that remarkable; I'm sure we've all been guilty of that from time to time. My point is that it solidified my concern that, where these plot summaries aren't copied outright, they may in many cases be close paraphrases. That's on top of the tone-based evidence I pointed to. Hemantha also comments on close paraphrasing here. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 07:03, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- Tamzin Yeah, I did - just haven't looked yet. Those first two questions were dumb, since you obviously have already posted other examples in your original statement. ;-) They are now stricken out. The last question still stands in regards to your thoughts/beliefs. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:59, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Oshwah You are wrong, close paraphrasing is still a copyright violation. Something does not need to be directly copied from a source to be a copyright violation. Please read Wikipedia:Close_paraphrasing#Concepts and Wikipedia:Copying_text_from_other_sources#Can_I_copy_if_I_change_the_text_a_little_bit?. Yes, close paraphrasing may not be as blatant as a direct paste, and is it harder to avoid, but it still needs to be avoided and cleaned up after. Cleaning them up can take just as much time (if not more) than cleaning up a "regular" copyright violation. Your responses here call back to our exchange at User_talk:Amkgp/Archive_19#What's_going_on_here?, where your views on what constitutes a copyright violation were similarly wrong. I understand that you want to help your friends out when they're in a rough spot, but you repeating misconceptions about copyright violations just makes the issue worse. When coming to the defense in situations like this in the future, it might be a better idea to help the user instead of claiming the blocking admin is in the wrong. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 19:49, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Moneytrees Hello, I hope your're doing well. I also want to my help in investigating the case against me. I know its against the policy, is there any way that I can also contribute and lend my support. Thanks. C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 23:53, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- If you could rewrite or remove anything you know is problematic, or otherwise point out any issues, it would be appreciated. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 04:39, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Moneytrees: I will definitely look into my contribution, pages created and fix wherever there is any problematic edits by me, or concern raised by others. I'm giving you the assurance. Thank you for responding to me. C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 04:49, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- If you could rewrite or remove anything you know is problematic, or otherwise point out any issues, it would be appreciated. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 04:39, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- Moneytrees Hello, I hope your're doing well. I also want to my help in investigating the case against me. I know its against the policy, is there any way that I can also contribute and lend my support. Thanks. C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 23:53, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Oshwah: Perhaps you missed the start of my comment? I linked to three verbatim copyvios. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 06:40, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- Tamzin - I dunno, man (not assuming gender lol)... "On the auspicious occasion of Holi, the Choudharys perform a puja. However, the family is unaware of the imminent threat" (diff) vs "Meet Krishna and his loving brothers, Chiranjeev and Nakul. On the occasion of Holi, the Choudharys perform a puja at the temple, unaware of lurking danger" (source), the only exact match between the two is "Holi, the Choudharys perform a puja". That... could be argued, but I tend to look at the context as a whole in these regards. The first sentence from the source isn't used at all in the diff. The second sentence adds "auspicious" and "at the temple". Okay, that could be argued that the user took that sentence from the source and added these things. I'm... on the fence... about whether or not that could constitute a copyvio, leaning "no" in my opinion. The last sentence (in the diff, or the second sentence after the comma in the source) seems okay to me. My take is that C1K98V probably did use these summaries as a base and reference when writing these summaries, but copyvio? My thoughts here regarding that example (if I can express it with words... lol) is "....ehhhhh... *shrugs one shoulder a few times*". I think that close paraphrasing can be defined as, "if we can tell that this is probably where you got this information (by adding words, adding to the sentence, etc), then it's close paraphrasing", and this does fit.
- @Oshwah: Sorry, my mistake. It's in one of the thumbnails, but I should have linked to the actual page for that episode: "On the occasion of Holi, the Choudharys perform a puja at the temple, unaware of lurking danger!". (As to why that's in episode 1 according to Apple TV but episode 2 in the summaries C1K added, I don't know.) -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 06:17, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- Tamzin, I take all this in good faith, and I still stand by my comment, I take full responsibility of my edits. Since, I was unblocked I never intent to do copyvio, copypaste, paraphrase, and I don't intend to do so previously now or in the coming future. You have my words I will co-operate with the community throughout the investigations and I know the consequences of this. Thanks C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 06:31, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- Oshwah I came here after seeing the C1K98V was re-opened. I just want to echo what Money said. PLEASE don't repeat or "spread" incorrect info about copyvios. Especially coming from someone like you osh, I have a high degree of trust in you, and I would assume many other editors do too. Imagine an editor saw this and started close paraphrasing because you said
I can definitely say that a good general rule that constitutes copyvio is direct copypasta.
They would go "oshwah didn't say close paraphrasing is bad, so I can probably do it!" A better rule is "If it's too closely related to the source, then it's a copyvio." I know you were defending a friend but I would stay away from commenting on any copyvio related, IF you aren't 100% sure what you're talking about. Feel free to ask me questions about this kind of stuff, you know where to find me! Best, Signed,The4lines |||| (Talk) (Contributions) 15:19, 16 May 2022 (UTC)- The4lines, Moneytrees - ACK! Sorry! That sentence (and that response) was edited, pasted, re-arranged, and moved around and it came out incomplete and totally wrong. YES! Close paraphrasing is not okay at all. That sentence is striken out! And of course to disclose, I've been working with this user and mentoring them a lot, but I am absolutely here with a neutral mindset. It would be unfair to myself, you, and the project if I had any other mindset. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:28, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Moneytrees - Oh, and to respond to your above statement - I apologize greatly if you interpreted my response to think that I was trying to say that you were wrong. I was just trying to look at the evidence and voice thoughts. Looking at my response above, I remember being quite tired when I wrote it. Probably not a good time for me to wiki when I just get done with a very long workday. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:33, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Oshwah: Yeah, don't worry about it too much, everyone makes mistakes :). Good to hear that you are mentoring C1K98V. Best! Signed,The4lines |||| (Talk) (Contributions) 02:01, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Oshwah Ok. I forgive you. (Sorry for a slow response, I have been very busy recently.) Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 00:34, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Moneytrees - Oh, and to respond to your above statement - I apologize greatly if you interpreted my response to think that I was trying to say that you were wrong. I was just trying to look at the evidence and voice thoughts. Looking at my response above, I remember being quite tired when I wrote it. Probably not a good time for me to wiki when I just get done with a very long workday. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:33, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- The4lines, Moneytrees - ACK! Sorry! That sentence (and that response) was edited, pasted, re-arranged, and moved around and it came out incomplete and totally wrong. YES! Close paraphrasing is not okay at all. That sentence is striken out! And of course to disclose, I've been working with this user and mentoring them a lot, but I am absolutely here with a neutral mindset. It would be unfair to myself, you, and the project if I had any other mindset. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:28, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Oshwah I came here after seeing the C1K98V was re-opened. I just want to echo what Money said. PLEASE don't repeat or "spread" incorrect info about copyvios. Especially coming from someone like you osh, I have a high degree of trust in you, and I would assume many other editors do too. Imagine an editor saw this and started close paraphrasing because you said
- I appreciate that, C1K. Like I said, I think if you just steer clear of plot summaries going forward, that would be a lot better both for you and the project. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 06:40, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
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Hello all, @Tamzin, Moneytrees, and MER-C: Good day. I hope all doing great. As stated, above by MT "If you could rewrite or remove anything you know is problematic, or otherwise point out any issues, it would be appreciated", on the basis of Precautionary principle, I would like to assume and remove episode table from 2 article Dhadkan Zindaggi Kii, India's Ultimate Warrior. Based on the input given by Tamzin and Moneytrees I investigated my contributions, do have a look here User:C1K98V/CCI. Rest all my contributions are clean and most of them rollback edits, sourcing, creation and expansion of article. Thanks C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 05:25, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- And I even asked for assistance from @DanCherek to cleanup the reception section of DZK. They are really quick and knowledgeable editor. Thanks for the help --C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 05:42, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- C1K98V, are you saying that you copied the episode summaries in those two articles from somewhere else? If so, can you identify the source? DanCherek (talk) 16:50, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- @DanCherek: Not like I have copied it from any source. But if you see the above discussion, something like "EPG" and the episode table created by me have everything similar. I'm not aware of EPG, why and how does it work, but from past mistakes I'm aware that reverse copyvio also happens. But after the Apple EPG link shared by Tamzin I started doubting myself. The article I listed above is in response to Moneytrees who believed in me, and gave a chance to help out in cleanup and rewrite and remove problematic edits. I only intend to do here is constructive editing, creation, expanding article, working with images and wikidata items. As the Dhadkan page history states I'm the page creator and I have expanded it, I would like to assume WP:Precautionary principle and remove the episode table, same for the other article which I expanded. Thanks C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 17:20, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- I'm very glad you are interested in helping out with the copyright cleanup, but I'm still a little confused. It's true that we sometimes presumptively remove text, often in cases where the source is offline or otherwise difficult to access, or if there's another reason to suspect that it was copied from somewhere. But I'm not sure why you're asking for the summaries in those two articles to be removed if you are also saying that you didn't copy them from anywhere. By contrast, in the few examples that Tamzin gave, you did apparently copy plot summaries from somewhere else, given that they appeared on other websites prior to you adding them to Wikipedia. That's not reverse copyvio. DanCherek (talk) 20:41, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- See I'm also very confused and doubtful, after what I came to know about the apple link and EPG thing. I have the patience, but, I can't see admin efforts and time are getting wasted, as they have much more productive work to do here. Already thier alot of evidences stated above against me based on that presumptive deletion should be done on the article which I listed as I have created or expanded it. Rest I can assure you, the articles, edits listed on the CCI page are clean. Thank you. C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 00:30, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- I'm very glad you are interested in helping out with the copyright cleanup, but I'm still a little confused. It's true that we sometimes presumptively remove text, often in cases where the source is offline or otherwise difficult to access, or if there's another reason to suspect that it was copied from somewhere. But I'm not sure why you're asking for the summaries in those two articles to be removed if you are also saying that you didn't copy them from anywhere. By contrast, in the few examples that Tamzin gave, you did apparently copy plot summaries from somewhere else, given that they appeared on other websites prior to you adding them to Wikipedia. That's not reverse copyvio. DanCherek (talk) 20:41, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- @DanCherek: Not like I have copied it from any source. But if you see the above discussion, something like "EPG" and the episode table created by me have everything similar. I'm not aware of EPG, why and how does it work, but from past mistakes I'm aware that reverse copyvio also happens. But after the Apple EPG link shared by Tamzin I started doubting myself. The article I listed above is in response to Moneytrees who believed in me, and gave a chance to help out in cleanup and rewrite and remove problematic edits. I only intend to do here is constructive editing, creation, expanding article, working with images and wikidata items. As the Dhadkan page history states I'm the page creator and I have expanded it, I would like to assume WP:Precautionary principle and remove the episode table, same for the other article which I expanded. Thanks C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 17:20, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- C1K98V, are you saying that you copied the episode summaries in those two articles from somewhere else? If so, can you identify the source? DanCherek (talk) 16:50, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
The CCI has now been finished. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 01:28, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- Moneytrees, I value your time and efforts, grateful you believed in me, I assure, I wont do any such kind of mistake ever again. Thank you for your consideration. C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 05:13, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
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Hello @C1K98V, I hope you are doing well. I am so sorry for disturbing you but can you please help me expand Draft:Jhanak and Draft:Aankh Micholi (TV series), if possible. Can you please upload their poster and external links too. Thankyou so much. Imsaneikigai (talk) 07:39, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
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Inserting new images on Wikimedia featuring Zeetv actors
Hello C1K98V it's Pri2000 here. Can you please add new images for zeetv actors Wikimedia commons from this link? [8] Pri2000 (talk) 16:30, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
please do the needful, why are you keeping idol ? d protect the article immediately, in the above article stop his Wikishovel nonsense, and false alarms. This is not the first time he is doing it, this has become a habitual to him nominating speedy deletions, and creating double work to other editors. (talk) Fostera12 (talk) 13:38, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
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