User talk:Doug Weller
The current date and time is 22 August 2024 T 11:49 UTC.
Discretionary sanctions alerts
| ||
---|---|---|
|
You can email me from this link but in the interests of Wiki-transparency, please message me on this page unless there are pressing reasons to do otherwise.
Comments which I find to be uncivil, full of vulgarities, flame baiting, or that are excessively rude may be deleted without response. If I choose not to answer, that's my right; don't keep putting it back. I'll just delete and get annoyed at you.
This user talk page might be watched by friendly talk page stalkers which means that someone other than me might reply to your query. Their input is welcome and their help with messages that I cannot reply to quickly is appreciated. |
Welcome to my talk page! I am an administrator here on Wikipedia. That means I am here to help. It does not mean that I have any special status or something, it just means that I get to push a few extra buttons to help maintain this encyclopedia. If you need help with something, feel free to ask. Click here to start a new topic.
|
First, please remember that I am not trying to attack you, demean you, or hurt you in any way. I am only trying to protect the integrity of this project. If I did something wrong, let me know, but remember that I am human, and I do make mistakes. Please keep your comments civil. If you vandalize this page or swear at me, you will not only decrease the likelihood of a response, your edits could get you blocked. (see WP:NPA) When posting, do not assume I know which article you are talking about. If you leave a message saying "Why did you revert me?", I will not know what you mean. If you want a response consisting of something other than "What are you talking about", please include links and, if possible, diffs in your message. At the very least, mention the name of the article or user you are concerned with. If you are blocked from editing, you cannot post here, but your talk page is most likely open for you to edit. To request a review of your block, add Administrators: If you see me do something that you think is wrong, I will not consider it wheel-warring if you undo my actions. I would, however, appreciate it if you let me know what I did wrong, so that I can avoid doing it in the future. |
Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67 |
|
This page has archives. Sections older than 6 days may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III. |
I don't use irc often, but my account name on Libera is DougWeller.
Cancer update - being offered palliative care (chemo), incurable
I'll see an oncologist in a couple of weeks to discuss chemo and to ask about my prognosis. Exercising as much as I can but mainly on my treadmill, 3 times a day for a mile so each time, only about 2mph. Calf muscles are the main problem, doing exercises prescribed by a physiotherapist. But not walking outside as the painful calf and thigh muscles don't go away and as I've twice had to stop and call for a pickup, safer to stay inside, especially with my Parkinson's. I'll soldier on! Doug Weller talk 16:05, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry to hear that. Feel really bad that you are in this situation. Thinking of you. Andre de Guerin, aka "Conundrum" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.111.195.1 (talk) 08:22, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
- Well, that sucks. I'm sorry to hear that. --Yamla (talk) 16:09, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Keep soldiering on, and know that lots of us here are rooting for you! --Tryptofish (talk) 17:02, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Very sorry to hear this - all best wishes. Johnbod (talk) 17:10, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Oh Doug. I dont have the words. Roxy the dog 17:11, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- God bless Doug, hope you know how many people are blessed to at least call you an internet friend, and Im sure many more offline. nableezy - 17:19, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Doug, my best wishes in this journey. I'm not good at dealing with this shit. How I can identify with "the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak." We older dudes feel the pull of destiny, and it ain't pretty. Just make life comfortable. Don't overdo anything, even the exercise (and I'm a PT). Moderation in all things. You don't have to drink the whole bottle of OZV Zinfandel in one sitting, but do enjoy the finer things in life. Good wine, truffles, chocolate, books, movies, whatever. Now is the time to aim for quality, not quantity/longevity. Hang in there brother. Feel free to email me.
When dealing with my own cancer ordeal, I often resorted to gallows humor. The staff in ICU and ER were especially understanding. I'd say: "I'm going to get "CC & DNR" tattooed on my chest." -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 17:48, 26 January 2023 (UTC) - You will defeat this, Doug. Keeping you in my thoughts. GoodDay (talk) 17:51, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- And from another PT, now long retired; bless you Doug, and Valjean is right. Enjoy what life brings. Haploidavey (talk) 17:56, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Stay strong and hang in there, man. Sending you all the good vibes I can muster (hey, WP:FRINGE or not, it can't hurt, lol). Heiro 17:59, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for sharing this, Doug. Sorry to hear that. You're in my thoughts. ButlerBlog (talk) 18:13, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry DW. Hoping for the best possible news at your next oncologist visit. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 18:17, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- I think it is most important at some point to just enjoy the moment as much as you can and to enjoy life in general as it goes on, without trying to determine how long it will go on for, since that determination is really out of our hands, no? In other words, the life we live, I believe, has to be good and enjoyable for a long as it goes on. That is the most important, in my view. Hoping this may help a bit somehow, I wish you also much strength and courage in the jouney ahead. warshy (¥¥) 18:33, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- What Tryp said. I was down in your ^former neck of the woods just recently for the first time as an adult. Got to see a wild alligator for the first time, along with some other fauna. Miami-Dade is one of the best places in the country for birds - I imagine you can see quite a lot out your window, compared to here in NY? At least here there's a zoo across the street. The only animal it has is a dog, though. It's a pretty shih-tzu. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 19:11, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. But I live in Derbyshire now, having gone to England in 1970 and not returning (except of course for vacations, family visits, etc. When I was a young boy there was a sub-tropical jungle behind the houses across the road, complete with possums, snakes, banyan trees, and of course alligators down by the Miami river. Played there a lot with a boy named John Christmas (whose mother was named Mary). Doug Weller talk 08:32, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- Was John any relation to Randy Christmas (probably too young to be John's father)? I remember that Randy Christmas had a daughter named Merrie. Donald Albury 15:56, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- I don't think so - I've done a search and there's no indication that he was. Doug Weller talk 16:48, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- Ah, sorry, I think I knew that but was thrown off by a userbox. Fewer gators in Derbyshire, I reckon. The banyan trees were incredible. The first one I saw was in Palm Beach, where they are ubiquitous and strangler figs make for ripe metaphor. :) As for Christmas, I know it was pretty uncommon then for women to keep their name when getting married, but Mary Christmas?? Hard no. Lots of names you can't have with that surname: Mary, Wyatt, Eve, Nicholas/Claus, Carol... There's a name I hear on Fox News every December, over and over. Must be a seasonal anchor or something: Theresa Warren-Christmas. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 21:14, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- Was John any relation to Randy Christmas (probably too young to be John's father)? I remember that Randy Christmas had a daughter named Merrie. Donald Albury 15:56, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. But I live in Derbyshire now, having gone to England in 1970 and not returning (except of course for vacations, family visits, etc. When I was a young boy there was a sub-tropical jungle behind the houses across the road, complete with possums, snakes, banyan trees, and of course alligators down by the Miami river. Played there a lot with a boy named John Christmas (whose mother was named Mary). Doug Weller talk 08:32, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- Doug, I've so appreciated you sharing this part of your life with us. You've been in my thoughts and I'm sad to hear you're talking about palliative care. Whatever decisions you make in the days and weeks ahead, I know they will be ones that have been deeply thought through and which will reflect the way you've lived your life. I'm just glad that we continue to have your presence here onwiki. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 19:22, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Barkeep49 manages to say clearly what I couldn't figure out how to type. DMacks (talk) 19:25, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Perfectly said. EvergreenFir (talk) 20:11, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Absolutely. DeCausa (talk) 20:32, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Barkeep49 has put it very well. Moneytrees below is also absolutely correct - amongst the very best of us. Girth Summit (blether) 11:52, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Keeping you in my thoughts and prayers Doug. I appreciate the gift of sharing that yiou are giving each one of us. MarnetteD|Talk 19:28, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Doug Weller! Not much one can say in these situations that hasn't already been said and that hasn't already occurred to you (several Big Bad Words spring readily to mind...). Hopefully it'll be kinda nice to reflect on how many people are thinking of you and that in some way you've made a difference to all the people who know you personally, as well as to the Wikipedia project and to the rest of us who are used to seeing your edits while we're sorta amiably faffing around this neck of the woods. Big Virtual Hug, --Technopat (talk) 19:45, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- I cannot think of any better way to express my support than to second what Barkeep49 said. Whether your philosophy on cancer is to fight it, treat it like a chronic degenerative condition, or just embrace not-give-a-fuckism, please know that I and all the others commenting here support you and wish for the best possible outcomes. EvergreenFir (talk) 20:15, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Doug, thank you for all the work that you have done for Wikipedia. Thank you for being willing to make tough decisions. Thank you for keeping us informed about your illness. Thanks for being you. Cullen328 (talk) 20:23, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- I can't find the words to express how the wonderful support from you all and others now and in the past has meant to me. It will help me sleep well tonight. Ironically the thought of cancer itself rarely affects my sleep, it's only the effect on others and right now wondering how I will be able to die with dignity - at a time I choose and where I choose that costs me sleep at times. In the UK you aren't allowed to die with dignity. So if I can't die at home with my wife I'm thinking that when the time comes - and I am going to try to make that a few years from now - I may be able to take one last holiday with my wife somewhere that I can die with dignity. Doug Weller talk 21:25, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Doug, I'm always glad to see your signature on a talk page or to find your name in a contribution history, however old, and that will carry on as long as I'm editing. Now you're giving us even more reasons to be grateful. I hope you take every holiday you want! Thank you. NebY (talk) 22:50, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- My best wishes. Keep up the good fight. Donald Albury 21:55, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Doug, I'm sorry to read this news. I hope you are able to have your wishes. I was always taught to get it in writing and to get a second opinion. I've also heard a lot of interesting things about the new treatments nowadays like CAR-T cells and immunotherapy, IANAD, but it's a shame and saddening to read this even without a lot of details. Anyway, we don't know each other well but I just wanted to say it's always been a pleasure to interact with you on here and I wish you the best, and will fondly remember your work on Wikipedia. Andre🚐 23:29, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Doug, I'm so sorry to hear about this. I'm hoping for the best, and I'm keeping you in my prayers. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 01:03, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
- Doug, I'm also very sorry to hear this! Springee (talk) 16:08, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
- I don't know ya, but I'm very sorry to hear of this. If you do die, tell Stan Lee we miss him, aight? I like Astatine (Talk to me) 21:06, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- I'm jealous of all the messages wishing you well. I hope one day I have such a big network of well-meaning people! My best wishes, Thinker78 (talk) 04:47, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- So sorry to hear of this Doug. You were one of the first admins to help me out and guide me when I started taking an interest in contributing. In fact you might have been the first admin that I would refer others to if we disagreed or I was unsure what to do. I wish you all the best and keep fighting! GiggsIsLegend (talk) 16:40, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
- Hey there Doug, I just wanted to say I hope you have a good weekend - you helped me a lot this week, thank you again ^_^ Dyxtan (talk) 22:25, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Dyxtan no problem, always glad to be of assistance when I can. Doug Weller talk 06:30, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
- Doug, please research and pick up a copy of the Book, titled "The China Study" I'm sure it'll help you learn more and get a better understanding about our relationship to food and diseases we suffer from. 174.81.53.148 (talk) 15:41, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, but sadly too late. Just got back from chemo, 2 more sessions and I'll find out if it helped. Doug Weller talk 15:50, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
- Doug, I meant to wish you a happy new year and am late, and now this news - I still offer the flowers, and please share with your wife. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:43, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers. That you for your years of work making this project a better place. --Guerillero Parlez Moi 22:51, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Best to you Doug, hang on in their man and hope you remember the very high regard you are held to within our community; you have lead by example and have always been encouraging. Ceoil (talk) 00:32, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- Best wishes to you and your family, stay strong -- StarryNightSky11 ☎ 01:31, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- Doug, you are a light to us all. I know your wife is challenged by these developments too. If you can find a place where psilocybin is legal you might find it beneficial. Pragmatic Trials of psilocybin therapy in palliative care are ongoing in California. All the best. Carlstak (talk) 02:25, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- PS: clinical pharmacologist Roland Griffiths has done a lot of research along these lines. Carlstak (talk) 02:43, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- I can second the shrooms. We always called them sillycybin. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 04:12, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- Not legal in the UK! Doug Weller talk 08:35, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- Ah, that's a shame. I would never try to talk you into anything, Doug, but even Texas (!) has legalized psychedelic medical research. Aldous Huxley's wife Laura gave him an injection of LSD-25 at his request as he lay on his death bed. That's how I want to go, but not with an injection. Mushrooms would work, too. Carlstak (talk) 01:43, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- I don't know about you, but I don't see any police. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:58, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- And liberty caps, among the most potent of the psilocybin-containing mushrooms, are plentiful in England. Carlstak (talk) 02:20, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- They are indeed - I remember when one of my stepsons found some! Doug Weller talk 09:32, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- And liberty caps, among the most potent of the psilocybin-containing mushrooms, are plentiful in England. Carlstak (talk) 02:20, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Doug, best wishes from all of us. Johnuniq (talk) 02:29, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- Wildflowers for you, friend. Because I don't have the words to express my feelings. Generalrelative (talk) 03:26, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- You've been an inspiration, Doug, and you continue to be one in the way you're facing this. – Joe (talk) 06:45, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- That is how I feel too. Thanks Doug for being you. Llll5032 (talk) 08:21, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Echoing everyone above. You're an icon. DatGuyTalkContribs 09:34, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- An icon and an inspiration. Thanks for sharing this with us - it makes me feel that WP is not only a source of information, but also a community. You are surely in my thoughts and prayers. Rsk6400 (talk) 16:53, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- The day you get an entry added to the "List of deceased Wikipedians" will be one of the saddest days this website will have seen in a long time. I hope whatever time you have left is free of pain, and that you are able to die with the dignity that you deserve. Thanks for everything you've contributed to Wikipedia over the years. Hemiauchenia (talk) 19:40, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- This is really all I wanted to say to Doug too, but it is expressed by you here in much better form and style. Thank you! warshy (¥¥) 20:18, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- Doug, I see that you have about 70 subpages in your userspace, including a number of drafts in various stages. Is there anything in particular you'd like help getting finished and moved to mainspace? BD2412 T 22:55, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Doug. Like everyone else, I am very sorry to hear that. Wikipedia will be a poorer place when you have to go. Dudley Miles (talk) 23:23, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- Doug, you're one of the editors I most respect, and seeing how your handling this makes my respect even greater. As has been said above, I hope you enjoy your life without pain and go on your own terms with dignity. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:01, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Doug, devastating to read this, and I don't know what to say that hasn't already been said so well by other above. I've always found you to be a rock here on Wikipedia, and your tireless and immensely helpful efforts are very much appreciated. Jeppiz (talk) 01:35, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Doug, I wish you the best, and hope that you will experience as little pain as possible. starship.paint (exalt) 08:06, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Doug, I will never forget all the times you gave me support and advices in my previous iteration. Thank you for this and for making WP a better place. I can only wish you all the best. K. Lone-078 (talk) 09:41, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Run through a comprehensive list of expletives, dear Doug, and that will sum up my feelings on seeing this bitter news. I am deeply moved by your references to your wife. As many of us will know from experience, it is what we manage to say to each other, brightly under strain, in reviewing a shared past, that tasks our minds in such terrible situations. I am assured that in planning for what future remains (the months and years will be, ineludibly, seamed with an elegiac tone of finality), you will work to ensure that your spouse will have many more memories to add to those of your rich life together as you also find time, with your characteristic donative generosity, to patch with further quilts of tender recall the hard ledges of survival for the other victim here who will, prospectively, grasp for them if or when they find themselves forced to endure the icy rockface of widowhood.
- Before posting this, I took a Persian nap (Herodotus), worried it might sound intolerably pompous, intrusive and rhetorical, rather than spontaneous. Two dreams, in one of which you figure as a lone archaeologist probing a dark desert for spoors of a lost past, and the other where you emerge as a Virgilian cicerone as I stumbled along native bushland. On waking, I thought ‘what the fuck’. Hang in there, whatever. As others have noted, remarkable things can crop up in science. There’s always hope.Nishidani (talk) 17:31, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what a Persian nap is, but one thing I really want to give to Wikipedia is a new article (I have written only a handful at most) and have started a draft at User:Doug Weller/Racism in pseudoarchaeology. I'm getting tremendous help from some knowledgeable folks at the Facebook group Fraudulent Archaeology Wall of Shame. I've been putting this off for a long time but all the wonderful people above have made me feel I must get it done. Doug Weller talk 17:48, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Herodotus 1:133. I can't give you a Perseus link because my main computer crashed weeks ago, and accessing anything from this minor one, antiquated but minimally functional, is nigh impossible. I'll bookmark that project and recommend to others here that they also do so and help where possible.Nishidani (talk) 18:01, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Writing new articles is the most fun part of this project (and one that I don't spend enough time doing). This isn't in my area of subject-matter expertise, but let me be the first to volunteer if you want a second pair of eyes for copyediting, formatting and the like - just let me know. Girth Summit (blether) 18:27, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what a Persian nap is, but one thing I really want to give to Wikipedia is a new article (I have written only a handful at most) and have started a draft at User:Doug Weller/Racism in pseudoarchaeology. I'm getting tremendous help from some knowledgeable folks at the Facebook group Fraudulent Archaeology Wall of Shame. I've been putting this off for a long time but all the wonderful people above have made me feel I must get it done. Doug Weller talk 17:48, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- So sorry to hear this. Best wishes, and keeping you in my thoughts. Thanks for all you have done and continue to do. DanCherek (talk) 20:56, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- I'm sorry Doug. Cancer sucks. ❤️ Sro23 (talk) 21:18, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Doug, what a terrible thing to hear. I'm so sorry. It's said that a man never truly dies until his name is forgotten; yours will live on here in the memory of everyone on this project. With love, ♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:29, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Doug, I send you my best wishes, confident that you will find the strength, courage and capacity for clear thinking that you will surely need to deal with this, just as you already have in your invaluable contributions here. Best regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 23:45, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Nothing I could say feels adequate. But you will be greatly missed, and I hope you are able to find some measure of happiness in the time you have left. And if there's anything Wikipedia-related that I can help with, don't hesitate to ask. A. Parrot (talk) 18:45, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- I've only just heard this news, Doug, and I am deeply sorry. 'Keep buggering on', as Churchill used to say when things were bad. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 19:43, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- Jeez! All any of us can do is praise the work you've done here and (I suspect) elsewhere; and let you know how much it's been appreciated. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:49, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- You will be in my thoughts and prayers, Doug. I remember that you were one of the first administrators I ever encountered. Scorpions13256 (talk) 22:10, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- Only just heard of this. A terrible situation but I know you'll face it with strength. Please take some strength from the rest of us. Reach out to the community if you need anything even if it's just moral support. Canterbury Tail talk 12:19, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- Doug, I felt the need the last few days to jump on here and get an update from you but the weather had not allowed for this. It has not diminished my thoughts towards you and as I was able to get on I came here to see this. My heart is heavy with the fact you are still suffering so much through pain in your body but I am inspired by your journey at the same time. Your courage, your strength, your tenacity are all indescribable. Your Song is such a beautiful melody and I believe there are lyrics yet to be written that will have such a lasting legacy and be inspirational to so many. That may be a Wikipedia article or perhaps your wisdom passed on to listening ears desiring to grasp on to the depth of knowledge you have accumulated throughout your life. One thing is certain. You have made a lasting impact and you continue to do so with every breath taken. My hope, my morning songs are for many more days of impact here with us. You are incredible as an editor and an amazing human being. You are an integral part of my daily thoughts. I am beyond honored to know you in even this limited capacity. I count it such a blessing to have even the smallest interaction with you. May my words be an encouragement to you like so many others mentioned here and may you find strength to continue "soldiering on" as you put it. I call it the Color Green, surviving, yes, but finding a way to thrive despite the circumstances. Take that and let it feed life into your Song. May the Color Green fill and flood you, my friend. --ARoseWolf 15:53, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- Doug, I have some experience of what you are going through. I have no words, except to say you are in my thoughts and I do hope things go better for you. As ever, David, David J Johnson (talk) 20:32, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- Love, peace, and comfort to you, Doug. - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 20:53, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry to hear this Doug. Best luck anyway, things could be uncurable but still stay for very long. Just do whatever you find comfortable.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:49, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- Just saw this, and wanted to add my name to those who will be thinking of you, and hoping for the best. You're most definitely one of the best admins here, and I appreciate your keeping your hand in as much as possible. Beyond My Ken (talk) 14:04, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- Doug, I'm sorry to hear this. Stay strong, and I hope things go better for you. Tails Wx 21:31, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- I'm so sorry to hear this, Doug. Sending my thoughts and best wishes as ever. ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 04:21, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- So sorry to hear this news, Doug. I have no words, but wishing you peace and comfort, and know that you will be in my thoughts. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 16:25, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, I realize we've interacted under questionable circumstances, since I don't quite fit in to the culture here. But, you seem alright, and I wish you the best of luck that your circumstance permits (whether that's more years of life, or a painless, dignified end, whatever the fates decree). I should know what it's like to deal with a rare, deadly medical condition -- at least in my case, I've got a cocktail of meds to commute my would-be death sentence. Godspeed! Xcalibur (talk) 04:55, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. May as much as 1 or 2 years if I am very lucky. Doug Weller talk 12:20, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Very sad to hear all these! Am only praying to God for some sort of miracle! Take care. Ekdalian (talk) 07:34, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. May as much as 1 or 2 years if I am very lucky. Doug Weller talk 12:20, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hang in there, Doug, and more than ever, do what gives you pleasure. I hope some part of that includes your contributions here–pretty sure it is–but take care of number one, regardless. I have benefited enormously from your thoughts and interventions in the past, and selfishly, I hope to do so still, for as long as is feasible. We all have a limited time left, we just don't feel it quite as keenly. Times like this make me think about it, though. You're much in my thoughts. Mathglot (talk) 02:07, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- I admire your bravery in your battle against this horrific disease, Mr. Weller. Dronebogus (talk) 06:57, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Mathglot, although I feel that agreeing is often a bit boring: I want to agree with you that we all have limited time left (if you can accept that, you are close to wisdom), and that I, too, have benefitted enormously from Doug's thoughts, interventions and example. Doug, in Cuba people often encourage each other saying "Ánimo !", meaning "Courage !". Rsk6400 (talk) 08:51, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Dear Doug: I am saddened, of course, to hear the news that the cancer has proved incurable. I was hoping you would beat it, but illnesses are not privy to the hopes and wishes of humans from either near or afar. To carry on with equanimity and honesty in the face of life's exigencies is all we can hope for. That you seem to be doing not just with those qualities, but also creatively. All too often an off-handed mention of "real life," and usually just "RL," constitutes the sum total of our humanity we allow others to peek into on Wikipedia. All too often editors whose edits have given us a convincing, even inspiring, picture of the living breathing and feeling individuals they are, disappear anonymously from our presence. So, you have already bucked the trend. As an all too mortal human myself, I will look forward to reading whatever aspects of your journey you choose to share with us. As you must know, I have looked forward to your timely interventions on various archaeology or history-related pages on Wikipedia. You may not know that I have silently noted the pithy, no frills, language that has accompanied your interventions. For both, I offer my thanks and my admiration. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 15:54, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hello Doug, I am very sorry to hear this news. You have done much for this community and site, for which numerous people have shown how important you are to them. I hope that you and your family are doing well in such trying times. I hope things can change and get better. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. 3Kingdoms (talk) 05:02, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for sharing this, and really sad to hear about it. Wish you a lot of love to share with your loved ones, and faith and peace of mind. May springtime be nice and wonderfull! Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 03:11, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- Came here to see if there were any updates, so sad when I realised what it was. Hoping for the best in whatever time remains and that whatever you decide to do comes true. My thoughts are with you and your family. Nil Einne (talk) 18:28, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- :( ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 19:00, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- Doug, I waited way too long to finish writing this. You were one of the first admins I ever ran into on here, and an absolute paragon of what an admin should be. How much you care about this site and the time you've spent on it, has been an absolute blessing. And nothing can ever take that away from you. I am so honored to have been able to see you do that work, and hope many of us around here are able to take it forward. When I see a page that you were "watching over" (e.g. the only person (or one of few) responding to POV edit requests, keeping the article in good condition, etc.) I've been adding it to my watchlist. I hope others will do the same. I'm also so blown away by the poise and grace you're showing here, and in this announcement. Nothing about this is easy, I cannot even imagine how hard it is to think about or to write. And I just hope I can even approach that level of peace or grace if I get this sort of news. Thank you for everything you do around here, and thank you for continuing to be just an all around good guy. — Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 15:46, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Doug, I am so saddened to read this. I do hope that whatever may come, you have a strong support network of family and friends to guide you. You and yours are in my thoughts. RickinBaltimore (talk) 15:49, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry to hear what was inflicted you Doug, I hope you spend the rest of your time easy. Noorullah (talk) 08:59, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- God bless, Doug. Praying for you. Thank you for being one of the bright lights on Wikipedia. If there is anything we or I can do, let us or me know. Love ya. Softlavender (talk) 02:12, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Doug, every single time I've seen your name it has been good. Thank you for your gracious and wise work for Wikipedia. Holding you in the Light, Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 18:07, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Doug, I stand in awe at all the work you've done. Above all, know that we all here care deeply for your wellbeing, and couldn't be any more grateful to have shared this space with you. A big hug to you and your wife as you go through this, and I dearly hope that your departure will be on your own terms, with dignity. But in the meantime, as Mathglot said, please put yourself first. You more than deserve it. DFlhb (talk) 20:10, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Glad to see you are still editing! Appreciate all the work you have done here. Hoping for the best. utcursch | talk 19:51, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello Doug. I am so sorry to hear that. Wish you all the bests. Sincerely, Hamid Hassani (talk) 17:18, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
- Know that you are truly one of the great and good editors here; I have immensely appreciated your contributions. Wish the very best to you and your family, Huldra (talk) 23:48, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
- Oh, Doug. You have given me the gift of knowing that this project really is a worthwhile endeavor, since it is clearly in the hands of some of the most incredible people, that I have never actually met in person (that I would have liked to, if at all possible). If it has to be about goodbye, well, then let it be among the very longest, and most painless, goodbyes that have ever occurred to anyone. Your admiring fan, StonyBrook babble 21:49, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- I've only read this a few days ago along with all the excellent comments. Doug, I too noticed your excellent work on WP long before I finally created my account. Traces of your contributions seemed to be everywhere. At a moment when I had more time to dedicate to WP and finally heeded the recommendation of another editor to create an account, I think that you were the first administrator I visited to announce it. I'm less active here these days, but will never forget the joy of participating a bit with you on this project. Several comments above express better whatever more I could say. I'll still emphasise a point several of them make, about the importance of quality living, and the thanks for all that you've done here. I'm also glad that you allowed us the opportunity to share this: unfortunately there are editors I only could thank after they were gone. You're also one of those I sometimes check for recent activity and it's always a "yay" moment to see recent contributions. —PaleoNeonate – 13:03, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
- Just learned, incredibly sorry to hear this. I appreciate you. Bruxton (talk) 16:48, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
- Stay strong. We are all lucky to have you around, and we're all better for it, too. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 16:37, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
I’m lucky, the 30% chance chemo would work includes me!
As straight continuous chemo would impact my quality of life, I’m having a two month break, will be reassessed then. I want to keep up my 5 km a day on the treadmill! And going out occasionally with my wife on dog walks. Doug Weller talk 17:56, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- And I might see who wins the next US presidential election! If I'm lucky. Doug Weller talk 18:11, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- Best wishes DW!! I hope the chemo goes well and I hope you revel in the walks - even the ones on the treadmill :-) MarnetteD|Talk 18:19, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- Doctors have to play safe and give the worst case scenario. If you really want to see who the next president is, you probably will (though the shock might send you into regression!) My wife has leukaemia and found the chemo was so interfering with her quality of life that she gave it up. That was four years ago and she hasn't regretted it, despite the inevitable restriction of her life-style. Enjoy everything you can with gratitude. Sweetpool50 (talk) 18:58, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- I am hoping for continued successes, Doug. You are an amazingly strong person and I appreciate you more every day. You inspire others which is an incredible gift. Keep walking the treadmill and going out with the wife and dog. Keep exploring life and paying attention to all the details around you. That has helped me through many, many difficult days. You are truly a Rainbow of vibrant colors and you leave everyone in awe at the beauty of your LifeSong. Bless you, my friend. --ARoseWolf 19:07, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- Best of luck Doug. It's great to see that you are keeping strong. Dudley Miles (talk) 19:29, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- 5k a day on the treadmill! What an inspiration! My wife complains that I spend far too much time on the couch reading, but really snoozing with the cat. This is the kick in the pants I need. Thank you Fowler&fowler«Talk» 20:30, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- Someone has to beat the odds! Otherwise, there wouldn't be any. - Donald Albury 20:32, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- Per Donald Albury. That news has made my day, no, my cold rainy Italian spring suddenly lighten with joy. Hang in there, Doug.Nishidani (talk) 20:41, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- Great news! Keep going, but don't strain yourself is my advice. All the best, Johnbod (talk) 21:24, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, that's wonderful news! And if I'm lucky, the upcoming election won't send me into fits. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:47, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- Great to hear. 5 km a day on the treadmill is impressive, that will is what keeps you going.;-) All the best, Carlstak (talk) 01:34, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- This is mad inspiration for how to persevere through whatever life throws our way. StonyBrook babble 02:59, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Your daily 5K is an inspiration! I feel positively lazy in comparison. All good wishes, Softlavender (talk) 03:25, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- good karma Andre🚐 04:02, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- Great to hear this, bonne santé Ymblanter (talk) 20:48, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- Checking my watching after a couple of days and this section makes it all worthwhile; an oasis amidst the muck and bramble. Keep up whatever you are doing, Doug! Abecedare (talk) 21:01, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- Strength and power to you, Doug! Generalrelative (talk) 21:06, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- A clover for you 🍀 – CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 06:14, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- I too enjoy my 6/10,000 steps a day. Always thinking of you. Best regards, David, David J Johnson (talk) 16:21, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
Best wishes! Volunteer Marek 18:18, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- Great news indeed! Best wishes, Doug Weller. You will definitely see who wins the next US presidential election! You are an inspiration; in fact, 5km a day inspired me as well! Ekdalian (talk) 06:05, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
Over the Moon for you..―Buster7 ☎ 05:10, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
my story 30 May |
---|
- Doug, you are an inspiration, and perhaps you - and your wife - like the music of our 6 May concert, Misatango and Te Deum, that we found inspiring. I received the link to the YouTube video last night - too tired to share then. I put it there and on my talk page.--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:41, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
- Doug, assuming that the next US president will be elected in 2028, I really hope that you will see it. Your walking and your editing are an inspiration. Rsk6400 (talk) 10:07, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Rsk6400 You might like this YouTube video: [1] - lyrics below the video. Doug Weller talk 17:28, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
- user:Rsk6400 not sure why the above didn't work. Doug Weller talk 17:30, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
- Another instance of keyboard ruining (see JMF's comment below) ! How did you know that "American Pie" is a favourite of mine ?
Rsk6400 (talk) 06:07, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Rsk6400: The odds seem pretty good, but I didn't know it was. I see from the article on it that McLean finally explained the song, debunking some popular ideas. Doug Weller talk 07:41, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
- Another instance of keyboard ruining (see JMF's comment below) ! How did you know that "American Pie" is a favourite of mine ?
- user:Rsk6400 not sure why the above didn't work. Doug Weller talk 17:30, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Rsk6400 You might like this YouTube video: [1] - lyrics below the video. Doug Weller talk 17:28, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
- I am constantly amazed at what medicine can acheive. But even more amazed by what individuals like you who will fight to bring about the best possible outcomes can do. This is wonderful news, and I wish you the absolute best. - Bilby (talk) 10:24, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
- Just hearing about this now. Strength and healing go with you - keep kicking cancer's butt. Much love to you - Alison talk 18:20, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- That's awesome! I hope you are doing as well as can be! EvergreenFir (talk) 18:23, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks all. Still ok, doing 5k a day on my treadmill. Went out to eat with my daughter to a Vietnamese restaurant in Nottingham, lovely soft shelled crab. I’m guessing I’ll be starting chemo again next month. Doug Weller talk 19:38, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- Good to hear, Doug! --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:03, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- Good news. Stay positive and strong. --Mann Mann (talk) 03:20, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Doug, this is good news. I've always respected your work as an admin and an editor, and your ability to inject good humour to cool down hot discussions. Best wishes. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 22:49, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
- Best wishes, Doug! Sincerely, sam z. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FB91:1C78:896C:D14:E4BD:6832:BFD4 (talk) 03:08, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks all. Still ok, doing 5k a day on my treadmill. Went out to eat with my daughter to a Vietnamese restaurant in Nottingham, lovely soft shelled crab. I’m guessing I’ll be starting chemo again next month. Doug Weller talk 19:38, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- Even tho we haven't had many interactions, your contributions, compassion and commitment have truly served as one of the guiding beacons in helping me become a better editor. :) By the looks of the above signatures, I'm seeing this quiet late but I hope things have gotten better since then! Sending my thoughts and prayers to you and yours and thanks for being a wiki-role model! Best, Dan the Animator 06:14, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
- User:Dantheanimator that’s very kind. I feel stronger than I have for a long time but the cancer of course continues to grow, so three months of chemo soon. My experience wiyh it last time was good, no problems except hair loss. Doug Weller talk 18:54, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Doug Weller I've not been around for a few years and I've come back and am really sad to hear this. You're a good person and I'm devastated that this is what you're dealing with. Wishing you peace and light. Babakathy (talk) 19:54, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Babakathythanks very much. I feel ok, just started another round of chemo. Nice to hear from you. Doug Weller talk 21:43, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Doug Weller I've not been around for a few years and I've come back and am really sad to hear this. You're a good person and I'm devastated that this is what you're dealing with. Wishing you peace and light. Babakathy (talk) 19:54, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- User:Dantheanimator that’s very kind. I feel stronger than I have for a long time but the cancer of course continues to grow, so three months of chemo soon. My experience wiyh it last time was good, no problems except hair loss. Doug Weller talk 18:54, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
YOU JUST RUINED MY KEYBOARD!!!
because I've just laughed a mouthful of crumbs all over it. In 100 years, I doubt that anyone has ever used the phrase "vanilla Nazi" before.
We need a Barnstar of Keyboard Ruining award.
Feel free to just revert this. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 17:26, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- @John Maynard Friedman Just pleased to make someone happy! Doug Weller talk 17:38, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Editor of the Week
Editor of the Week | ||
Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week in recognition of your career of great contributions! (courtesy of the Wikipedia Editor Retention Project) |
Editor of the Week members have submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:
- It is with great appreciation that the members of the Editor Retention Project bestow the Editor of the Week award to Doug Weller, a scholar, a gentleman and the sort of Wikipedian we all wish we could one day become. One of the truly bright lights and inspirational editors in the WP community, Doug has faced his recent health diagnosis with his usual thoughtfulness and reason. He has made massive contributions over the years, especially as an administrator, helping to make Wikipedia a more trustworthy source by rooting out misinformation and vandalism. We will never be able to measure the strife he has saved us from, because one never notices the strife which never occurs. A perfect example of his commitment to WP is his welcoming of a new editor just a few days ago. Godspeed to you, good sir. A trusted, productive and helpful editor whose talk page is filled with thanks and well wishes from fellow editors. Thank you for the example, the kindness, and the things that we will miss.
You can copy the following text to your user page to display a user box proclaiming your selection as Editor of the Week:
{{User:UBX/EoTWBox}}
Thanks again for your efforts! ―Buster7 ☎ 21:07, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- I’m humbled and literally in tears. This means a lot to me. Without all the support I’m getting from the community I would be struggling. Doug Weller talk 21:19, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for your dedicated service and many varied contributions in different roles to Wikipedia. Your work is greatly appreciated. isaacl (talk) 21:29, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Well deserved! Generalrelative (talk) 21:32, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- What a good description of Doug. He's instantly recognisable in that nomination. And thank you Doug. DeCausa (talk) 21:33, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- You're a great asset to the project, Doug. You always have been. Part of your legacy is here, and it's all good. Guy (help! - typo?) 21:50, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Doug, you will always have friends here. Never forget that. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:57, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Well deserved! Donald Albury 00:25, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Congratulations! Thinker78 (talk) 03:51, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Much deserved Doug. You have been, and still are, immensely valuable to Wikipedia!--RegentsPark (comment) 22:08, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- No more than your due Doug. Wikipedia is a much better place because of your contribution. Dudley Miles (talk) 22:34, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Very much deserved DW. I could copy paste every word of praise already written here but I'll just second them instead. Best regards Doug. MarnetteD|Talk 22:51, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hey Doug, You are everywhere and known to many as Editor of the Years! Congratulations and thanks. Johnuniq (talk) 23:07, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Dammit, Johnuniq stole my "Editor of the Year" line by minutes. I type too slow. Anyway, Huzzah, Doug! Floquenbeam (talk) 23:13, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Let's settle on Editor of the Decade, and a strong early contender for Editor of the Century (although given that that won't be awarded for another 77 years, the chances of any of us being around to hand out the gong are rather slim). Girth Summit (blether) 23:38, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Seconded, Doug. You were an early guiding light for me here at WP over a decade ago now, literally at times keeping me on the Golden Path. You are a rare and glorious soul. Heiro 00:38, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Agree with Heironymous Rowe. Let it be done. Stay strong, Doug! --Kansas Bear (talk) 01:11, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Let's settle on Editor of the Decade, and a strong early contender for Editor of the Century (although given that that won't be awarded for another 77 years, the chances of any of us being around to hand out the gong are rather slim). Girth Summit (blether) 23:38, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Dammit, Johnuniq stole my "Editor of the Year" line by minutes. I type too slow. Anyway, Huzzah, Doug! Floquenbeam (talk) 23:13, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Congrats, Doug, well deserved. So good to see you carrying on. Carlstak (talk) 01:23, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello Doug. It has been a long time since we interacted, and I only just read the news you posted above at the start of the year. I wanted to echo what others have said above (both in this thread and the earlier one). Wishing you all the best. Carcharoth (talk) 19:39, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Doug, you're editor of the millenium, all the best. nableezy - 19:45, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- We haven't interacted much, but I wanted to add my congratulations and sincere thanks for all the work you have done and continue to do here. Editor of the Years without a doubt. Best wishes, Eddie891 Talk Work 13:24, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Doug, it's been a while since we spoke and I wanted to stop by to congratulate you on your Editor of the Week award. Your work is appreciated! –xenotalk 18:20, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Many congratulations Doug, you certainly deserve this award. Regards, as always, David, David J Johnson (talk) 18:40, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
my story today |
thank you for what you do! - fresh flowers for you and your wife --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:38, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
- Agreeing with Dudley Miles' "Wikipedia is a much better place because of your contribution" - you really make a difference! Rsk6400 (talk) 19:50, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
- Long overdue for a man who for so many of us has set the gold standard for wikipedia volunteers, and indeed for his fellow admins. And thanks to the editor of the week team for summarizing Doug's presence here so eloquently.Nishidani (talk) 08:55, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- Cheers, —PaleoNeonate – 06:16, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
- I'm sure others were quite deserving of this award at the time they got it but no one is more deserving than you, Doug. Thank you for your continued contributions, your steady presence and your words of wisdom. --ARoseWolf 19:34, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- Always thinking of you, Doug, at least when my mind's not distracted by blips, such as the defeat of Australia in the Fifth Test. Keep well. We absolutely must be around for next year's Olympics and the November 2024 US elections, at a minimum.Nishidani (talk) 17:04, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Nishidani Thanks, that’s definitely the plan, we can do it! Doug Weller talk 18:52, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
Holiday Greetings
Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialog, people's rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension. Happy Holidays to you and yours. Check out Editor Clovermosses invitation above. I'm sure you will find many friends there. Stop by for a chat. ―Buster7 ☎
HAPPY HOLIDAYS 2023
Harvici's edit request
Hey Doug , I have put an edit request on the talk page of Shakespeare plays. Would you review it, tell me whether it is suitable for the article, and do the needful to include it in the article? Thanks. Harvici (talk) 15:39, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Harvici Someone who knows the article needs to make that decision, and if they agree they would normally add it. Doug Weller talk 15:54, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-10
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The
Special:Book
page (as well as the associated "Create a book" functionality) provided by the old Collection extension has been removed from all Wikisource wikis, as it was broken. This does not affect the ability to download normal books, which is provided by the Wikisource extension. [2] - Wikitech now uses the next-generation Parsoid wikitext parser by default to generate all pages in the Talk namespace. Report any problems on the Known Issues discussion page. You can use the ParserMigration extension to control the use of Parsoid; see the ParserMigration help documentation for more details.
- Maintenance on etherpad is completed. If you encounter any issues, please indicate in this ticket.
Gadgets allow interface admins to create custom features with CSS and JavaScript. The
Gadget
andGadget_definition
namespaces andgadgets-definition-edit
user right were reserved for an experiment in 2015, but were never used. These were visible on Special:Search and Special:ListGroupRights. The unused namespaces and user rights are now removed. No pages are moved, and no changes need to be made. [3]- A usability improvement to the "Add a citation" in Wikipedia workflow has been made, the insert button was moved to the popup header. [4]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 March. It will be on all wikis from 7 March (calendar). [5][6]
Future changes
- All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on March 20. This is planned at 14:00 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [7]
- The HTML markup of headings and section edit links will be changed later this year to improve accessibility. See Heading HTML changes for details. The new markup will be the same as in the new Parsoid wikitext parser. You can test your gadget or stylesheet with the new markup if you add
?useparsoid=1
to your URL (more info) or turn on Parsoid read views in your user options (more info).
Tech news prepared by Tech News writers and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe.
MediaWiki message delivery 19:45, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 61
The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 61, January – February 2024
- Bristol University Press and British Online Archives now available
- 1Lib1Ref results
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --16:32, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
Please edit per the following
Gooday Doug - I would very much consider it a favour if you would add the following to 2024 East Midlands mayoral election#Conservative Party which you protected.
existing
The Conservative Party selected the MP for Mansfield and Nottinghamshire council leader [[Ben Bradley (politician)|Ben Bradley]] as their candidate in September 2023.[5]
then adding:
Bradley suggested that, if successful, he would only act as Mayor in the future.<ref>{{Cite web|url= https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/local-news/ben-bradley-would-probably-stick-8571310 |title=Ben Bradley would 'probably' stick to one job if he became East Midlands Mayor| date= 3 July 2023 |access-date=5 March 2024|publisher=[[Nottingham Post|Nottinghamshire Live]]}}</ref>
I have added this to Ben Bradley (politician) (here) and re-added the basic gist (as an asterisked footnote) to Mansfield (UK Parliament constituency) (here) following a vandal, sending a level 3 to where there are numerous existing warnings; I only found the deletion as I wanted to expand the others today, and being logged-out don't have a watchlist. You may want to look at 193.117.187.82 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). I am mainly gnoming around randomly and can keep an eye on the IP if you don't want any sanction.
I am not a sock/IP block evader, having declared off-wiki to an American cu in Feb 2023. Thanks and regards.-- 82.13.47.210 (talk) 19:49, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- See below. Doug Weller talk 20:30, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
.--82.13.47.210 (talk) 22:54, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- My point was that I was tired and going to bed. Nothing to do with the dispute. Doug Weller talk 08:10, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
Requesting a little guidance
I had hoped that after resolution of Radiant Fellow's disruptive editing, Alaska's combativeness might subside. Unfortunately, it only took a day or two for me to be proven wrong in this discussion that ends up with her telling me I guess it's true then. You DO see "helpful" and condescending rudeness as one in the same
. I try to limit my responses to only what's relevant, but there just is no possibility for constructive dialog on the article when she makes everything combative. As a result, I prepared an ANI report of her most recent history, requesting a TBAN, narrowly construed to The Chosen and associated list articles, with the possibility for appeal at some predetermined point, noting that I have seen constructive editing by her elsewhere. But before I post that, any thoughts or guidance on that? Or do you think I'm wrong on this (which is, of course, a possibility)? TIA for your insight. ButlerBlog (talk) 20:24, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Butlerblog Lots of exercise today, too tired and it’s us time with my wife. Maybe in 12 hours, sorry. Doug Weller talk 20:29, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- No rush - the linked interaction was from Sunday - I took since then to think about it before doing anything. It's not pressing.
- Hope you got some treadmill in! ButlerBlog (talk) 20:38, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) User arrogance, wp:ownership and hostility is why I stopped logging-in and abandoned my account and 2.5K watchlist of then-nine years after being attacked (the last of quite a few - it goes with the territory) in November 2022, being called a troll, then for clarity a piss taker, and finally when I mentioned that Packjerkins was obviously Jack Perkins (racing driver) writing about himself, I was accused of insuffcient GF in that it could've been a fan with a hommage/pen-name.--82.13.47.210 (talk) 23:54, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- This is a misunderstanding of my comment to the IP above, which was meant to indicate I would respond today. Doug Weller talk 13:50, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Really, Butlerblog? You want me topic banned because you don't like the things I said about you? If you think my editing at articles related to The Chosen have not been constructive, why not just say that to me instead of talking about me elsewhere? As I've pointed out to you and Doug over the last week, teaching moments are to be taken and used constructively. Not thrown away with banning and blocking editors instead of trying to work things out. Now, if you want to talk to me about something I said to you, that you didn't like, just tell me. Ask me questions. Don't assume bad faith. And let's settle this once and for all. Do you really think keeping me from editing articles about The Chosen is going to truly solve anything in a way that works for both of us, for the betterment of those articles? I don't. But I'm certainly willing to work with you and talk with you, not just about you or behind your back. Let's do this the right way, not through a neighbor's back door. A4M2 Alaska4Me2 (talk) 01:41, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Butlerblog, reading again what you wrote above, you left out the following comments I wrote to you at the same article talk page a couple of days ago, the place where you only pulled out a short bit of my comments. I think this [8] (starting with "For clarification, I want you to know that being in the camp of good faith...") shows I really am trying to make things work with you. That, and what I wrote on your own talk page earlier this evening. A4M2 Alaska4Me2 (talk) 04:09, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- To be clear, my post linked to the entire discussion for context. I realize that what I'm asking about involves you, but right now, the question isn't specifically about you, it's an ask for insight on how I am viewing this. And it's not "behind your back" (obviously, or you wouldn't be here). So, if you would hold off so that Doug can respond to what I originally came here to ask, I will respond to your questions/concerns on my UTP after that. ButlerBlog (talk) 13:18, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- If it involves me and our head-butting, and you haven't responded to me trying to work things out with you, two full days before you came here, then I can't see why you would think I shouldn't comment until Doug responds. You seem so sure everywhere you go around Wikipedia when you comment, therefore, it doesn't make sense to me that you would ask for someone else to "interpret" my pretty straightforward comments to you. You portray me above only as combative, leaving out in that characterization how I am clearly hoping for a good working relationship with you and want that, based on my last comments to you at the article talk page. Leaving that part out of your posting here also doesn't make sense. A4M2 Alaska4Me2 (talk) 14:26, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- To be clear, my post linked to the entire discussion for context. I realize that what I'm asking about involves you, but right now, the question isn't specifically about you, it's an ask for insight on how I am viewing this. And it's not "behind your back" (obviously, or you wouldn't be here). So, if you would hold off so that Doug can respond to what I originally came here to ask, I will respond to your questions/concerns on my UTP after that. ButlerBlog (talk) 13:18, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Butlerblog, reading again what you wrote above, you left out the following comments I wrote to you at the same article talk page a couple of days ago, the place where you only pulled out a short bit of my comments. I think this [8] (starting with "For clarification, I want you to know that being in the camp of good faith...") shows I really am trying to make things work with you. That, and what I wrote on your own talk page earlier this evening. A4M2 Alaska4Me2 (talk) 04:09, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- I wrote a fairly lengthy note to Butlerblog about our head-butting and my thoughts on how it's evolved, but also that I'd love to see it resolved (and why). Here is the link to the comments: [9] A4M2 Alaska4Me2 (talk) 02:09, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) User arrogance, wp:ownership and hostility is why I stopped logging-in and abandoned my account and 2.5K watchlist of then-nine years after being attacked (the last of quite a few - it goes with the territory) in November 2022, being called a troll, then for clarity a piss taker, and finally when I mentioned that Packjerkins was obviously Jack Perkins (racing driver) writing about himself, I was accused of insuffcient GF in that it could've been a fan with a hommage/pen-name.--82.13.47.210 (talk) 23:54, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) @Butlerblog and Alaska4Me2: I think this argument belongs some place other than Doug's talk page. - Donald Albury 16:53, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- I couldn't agree more. Which is why I wrote what I did at Butlerblog's talk page. A4M2 Alaska4Me2 (talk) 17:09, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Donald Albury: As I stated above, the question I came to ask was a guidance question - for me (i.e. a "can you review my conduct" question). There was no need for any other responses outside of that. ButlerBlog (talk) 17:28, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
Apology
I've been meaning to apologize for not replying to a message you left on my talk page a while ago. Désolé EvergreenFir (talk) 05:29, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- @EvergreenFir I'm sure I've done the same. No problem. Doug Weller talk 13:47, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
Anonsfd37383321
Anonsfd37383321 sounded like a WP:ROPE and I have reverted the AIV report for now (which in retrospective should have been posted in ANI). Thanks and happy editing. — The Herald (Benison) (talk) 13:18, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- @The Herald Thanks. Hopefully happy editing, oncologist today. Doug Weller talk 14:20, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
Chemo successful!
Looks like I'll be around for quite some time still. Chemo held the cancer back and my Oncologist is very pleased. He says I look very well and that the cancers are still very small. So I'll have some time off and then back on chemo. Blood tests every 2 months to check. His guess was that my prognosis is the same as last year, another 18 months is quite possible. Who knows, if things go well, maybe more. In any case I'll see 82, Christmas, and the inauguration of the next American president - two pleasant things at least! Doug Weller talk 16:43, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Very happy news! Hope you and yours have something fun planned. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 16:45, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Doug, Very pleased to hear that good news. As ever, David, David J Johnson (talk) 16:53, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- This is excellent news. So happy to hear this, Doug. You'll be wanting those Christmas decorations back. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 16:57, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Sirfurboy You remembered! Nah, we still have a lot. Doug Weller talk 17:44, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delighted to hear, Doug. Longevity, in whatever form it is granted us, is a many-splendored thing. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 17:01, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- That is great news! ButlerBlog (talk) 17:07, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Excellent. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 17:09, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Well done on fighting your cancer. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 17:15, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hooray! Donald Albury 17:32, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- My best wishes for continued improvement over the ongoing treatment...but is looking forward to the inauguration of the next president a bit tongue in cheek? Sweetpool50 (talk) 17:35, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Sweetpool50: Ha. Three things I'll see, only 2 pleasant. I shudder to think of what could happen with the presidency. Doug Weller talk 17:43, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- That’s fantastic news Doug! Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 17:35, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Good to hear. All the best, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 17:52, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Great news! Congratulations! Johnbod (talk) 17:55, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Awesome news, Doug! --Kansas Bear (talk) 17:57, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- That's wonderful news, Doug! EvergreenFir (talk) 18:03, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Great to hear, Doug! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:05, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Excellent news, Doug! So happy for y'all. Haploidavey (talk) 19:01, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- More than thrilled to hear that, Doug. Godspeed on recovery. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 19:11, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- This is amazing, Doug! Very happy to hear :) Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 20:10, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Doug, this is great news! I'm so happy to hear it (and let's hope against hope that the election results will be good news too). --Tryptofish (talk) 22:51, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Fantastic news, Doug!-- Ponyobons mots 22:52, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yay, congrats!! DanCherek (talk) 23:49, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- (Talk page enjoyer) Thanks for sharing this great news Doug! StonyBrook babble 00:01, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry happy to hear your good news. Hope you get to relax and celebrate! Yuchitown (talk) 00:15, 8 March 2024 (UTC)Yuchitown
- Great news! Carlstak (talk) 00:38, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- That's fantastic, Doug. Really great. Thanks for sharing. --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:40, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Wonderful news ! Hoping for three pleasant things (and many more !). Rsk6400 (talk) 06:34, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- So good to hear! Make the best of life. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 06:58, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- That's the only news that has brought a glow to my heart today. Forget about setting your sights on catching the outcome of the McDonald vs Bidet rope-the-dope battle on Nov 4, 24, far too shortsighted. Think of the long term, and do us all a favour by hanging in here at least till Nov.4 2028. Best Nishidani (talk) 08:00, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Great news, Doug! I am really glad to hear this. Best wishes for you. God bless! Ekdalian (talk) 08:28, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Doug, I am thrilled by this news. Know you are continuously on my mind. Here's to the wholeness that I hope takes root and blossoms in you, my friend. --ARoseWolf 14:57, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Wonderful! Dronebogus (talk) 16:56, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- That's cheered me up enormously. And on International Women's Day, big thanks too, to your wife, who I'm sure is the biggest element in your progress. And don't forget the NHS! (but one thing you can safely ignore, and should, is the US presidential election) --NSH001 (talk) 19:18, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Nice news, Doug! - LuckyLouie (talk) 19:30, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Great news. Congratulations Doug. Dudley Miles (talk) 20:56, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Wonderful news! Ravensfire (talk) 21:27, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Congratulations!! Fionaussie (talk) 01:35, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi please intervene and protect the article immediately, in the above article stop his Wikishovel nonsense, and false alarms. This is not the first time he is doing it, this has become a habitual to him nominating speedy deletions, and creating double work to other editors. (talk) Fostera12 (talk) 13:16, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- You are in the wrong here, Wikishovel is well within their right to nominate an article for deletion and in this case the rationale is correct too. You shouldn't be removing the speedy tag, that is disruption. —SpacemanSpiff 13:35, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Then you SpacemanSpiff take responsibility, check article, do the needful, remove tag and protect the article. This is my right to contest which i did already in talk page. This is a false alarm, alot has changed in that film festival in past few years. Fostera12 (talk) 13:38, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi Doug Weller pls check the article. It is notable.Fostera12 (talk) 14:11, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Fostera12 I'm not interested although I would like you to tell me how you know that "This article is completely different from previous context. ". Doug Weller talk 14:23, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Because I have no idea who created it earlier. In addition to that, the subject matter is well reported by all national media houses in India (Times of India, Indian Express, The Hindu, Hindustan Times etc). A lot has changed since 2019. Since past 5 years the festival is consistently reported in national media, and telecasted in television. Fostera12 (talk) 14:26, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
Persistent sockputtetry
Hi Doug, I am getting tired of Joshi punekar's sockfarm; they are coming up with a new sock almost everyday. After I posted here and requested you, Brittlee1990 was blocked. Another admin has intervened recently and blocked some of the IPs, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Joshi punekar! A new account has been created today, Gaur Samrat Muhammad Gauri and directly started editing (unlike a new user) the article on Gaur Brahmins! Can they be blocked as per WP:DUCK? Also, can you please protect these articles, which have consistently been targeted by these socks? Here's the list of the main articles: Gaur Brahmins, Marathi Brahmin, Chitpavan Brahmins, Saraswat Brahmin. One is already protected (ECP) , Gaud Saraswat Brahmin. Thanks & Regards Ekdalian (talk) 14:28, 9 March 2024 (UTC)