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IP editor has apparently switched to multiple unregistered accounts

Hi Ed, hope you're doing well. An editor that apparently uses multiple IP addresses, and now seems to have switched to various unregistered accounts, is making similar edits and additions of "information" that contradict the existing sources about the rulers of the Miskito people of Central America who were part black. This editor sometimes adds a ridiculous fringe source that claims the aboriginal peoples of Central and South America were actually black. Here are the diffs where I've reverted these changes by his latest incarnation:

George Augustus Frederic II

William Henry Clarence

Robert Henry Clarence

Jonathan Charles Frederick

Carlstak (talk) 21:08, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Has this been reported before? Is this the return of someone we know about? EdJohnston (talk) 21:16, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I see that one account has been blocked with the summary "Disruptive editing, major unsourced additions, page hijacking", certainly looks like continued sock puppetry going on. Carlstak (talk) 21:22, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Here's the latest account making the same edits. Carlstak (talk) 21:28, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You have identified Blackkeyboard080400 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). This appears to be the same person as Thejenkins44 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), who was blocked indef by User:GeneralNotability on 8 September.
I am blocking Blackkeyboard080400 for evasion and semiprotecting the four articles you listed as well as Mosquito Coast. If more action is needed, it is better to open an SPI because it appears this guy is likely to continue. EdJohnston (talk) 00:28, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Ed. I fear you may be right that he is likely to continue. I will follow through as you suggest if necessary. Carlstak (talk) 01:54, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think Thejenkins was reported to me as a probable sock, but I'm blanking on who it was - and I was sufficiently uncertain that I opted for the DE block instead of an SPI block. I'll see if I can find where this was reported to me... GeneralNotability (talk) 03:39, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Found it! Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Themaker1. GeneralNotability (talk) 03:41, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It is possible that the two editors listed at top of this thread could be added to Themaker1's sock case. EdJohnston (talk) 14:25, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
And he's back as IP 190.124.39.234. Carlstak (talk) 00:52, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I've blocked that IP two months for evasion. We should keep an eye on Special:Contributions/190.143.247.0/24 to see if he branches out to new IPs. EdJohnston (talk) 01:30, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, will do. Carlstak (talk) 13:11, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Due to continued editing of these articles from IPs in the /24 range, I have now blocked Special:Contributions/190.143.247.0/24 for two months. EdJohnston (talk) 14:24, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It is too early to protect the Bengali Brahmin article

A discussion was going on on the talk page regarding improvement of the article. Was it not too early to protect the page? Thank you. Dear Debasish (talk) 14:12, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Caste-related pages are often protected due to obvious abuse. Not clear what you mean by 'too early'. Anyone who is WP:Extended confirmed can edit the page. Use the talk page to get agreement for any changes you want to make. You can use the Template:Edit extended-protected on the talk page. Someone who has the ability to make the change can then act on your request, if it has consensus. EdJohnston (talk) 14:20, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, please add the traditional accounts of Bengali Brahmins and then protect the page. Wikipedia should be a place where people can refer to it. Thanking you.Mikemarssss (talk) 18:46, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

199.82.243.*

It appears that you blocked 199.82.243.102 for thirty days about six days ago for disruptive editing. However, there are now edits from 199.82.243.108 and 199.82.243.88 and 199.82.243.83 at Talk:Second Anglo-Afghan War. I haven't done a whois on the IP address, but I know that IP addresses shift within what used to be called Class C blocks and are now called /24 blocks or something like that. I have a request at DRN for moderated discussion from a registered user concerning Second Anglo-Afghan War. If this appears to be the same person, then maybe the block should be expanded to at least the /26 block, in which case I can dismiss the DRN request. I haven't reviewed the history in enough detail to know what exactly was the disruption. I see that the user is stubborn and is at least borderline uncivil, but I haven't been looking at the past history, and I know that there might be disruption that I don't see. So do you think it is the same user, and do you think that the block should be expanded? Robert McClenon (talk) 04:38, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have now blocked the /25 range as a CU block. In my opinion the DRN can be closed if nobody else wants to pursue the issue. EdJohnston (talk) 05:18, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Robert McClenon: and @EdJohnston:. I connected and saw that my IP was blocked by Ed. Wanted to discuss on his talk and saw this discussion. Ed - My IP is wrongfully being blocked. Robert - If you go through the Talk page, you can see that there were many times I told Noorullah21 to stop and let others provide their opinion but he continued to be borderline uncivil. Even towards the end, not only he ignored 3rd opinion's decision but he also gave me harsh comments and I responded with "No comment. Thank you." Constantly, in order to pursue his agenda, he accuses me for being sockpuppet in trying to block my opinion on Talk page. And who is this RaoulDuke47? He just made a sudden appearance on the Second Anglo Afghan war talk page stating exactly same words and comments as Noorullah21. Regardless, I have not committed any vandalism on any article and I have been involved in discussion on Second Anglo Afghan Talk page and any noticeboard in relation to it. That's all. I don't think that is vandalism or any reason to block IP. 192.189.187.106 (talk) 15:40, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Also looks like RaoulDuke47 shares same interest as Noorullah21 on Second Anglo Afghan War article. [1] 192.189.187.106 (talk) 15:47, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for clearing this up. The IPs were almost certainly HaughtonBrit evading his block. Unfortunately at the same time the IPs were blocked, a new account, Rezanaul, edited the same article using the same sources as the IPs and falsely claiming consensus: [2] - [3] ; [4]. This account was also used to edit the same articles where HaughtonBrit was active: [5], [6]. Is it possible to block this account as well? --RD47 (talk) 11:56, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Why am I being dragged into this conversation? The changes I made was due to WP:3 decision and I copied and pasted the sources provided on the talk page as [[WP:3] considered strong reference. After seeing this message, I did little check on Raoulduke47 and Noorullah21 and not only can you see that they share similar opinion on the Second Anglo Afghan War but also are possibly from same town and country. Noorullah21 used this IP 2A01:CB15:300:3000:CCD8:437F:F3AD:1B66 to make a change on page Afghan Independence Day which he also admitted to. This IP is in Assamese France. On the other hand Raoulduke47 provided a reference on the Second Anglo Afghan talk page which pointed him to location France as well because the reference showed this: https://www.google.fr/books/edition/A_Traditionalist_History_of_the_Great_Wa/cJUYEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=afghanistan+british+protected+state&pg=PA372&printsec=frontcover. Why and how,, Raoulduke47 became part of the discussion? Coincidence? Definitely not. These two individuals are something to be looked into. Rezanaul (talk) 13:35, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Bbb23: how am I suppose to act for an account that is week old? I wasn't even part of discussion till Raoulduke47 dragged me here. Maybe you should look into him as so far I have seen Noorullah21 blaming others of socking. Please keep me out. Rezanaul (talk) 14:27, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I don't feel bound to answer these wild accusations which are as baseless as they are silly. Anyone can check my edits and those of Noorullah21 and see that we are not the same person. I'll just point out that to get such a reaction I surely must have hit pretty close to the mark... Also Rezanaul seems to know all there is to know about the current dispute at Second Anglo-Afghan War, which is rather telling for a week-old account, as Bbb23 pointed out. Please let me know if you can block this account outright, or I'll take the evidence to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/HaughtonBrit. Cheers. --RD47 (talk) 15:57, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
reaction? You pinged me on this page. Please do take the evidence to the investigation page of whoever and let me know. Rezanaul (talk) 16:11, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Based on behavior Rezanaul (talk · contribs) looks like the same person as HaughtonBrit (talk · contribs). Who else would have such an intense interest in whether Afghanistan was a protectorate? Making bogus sock charges against Noorulah21 and Raoulduke47 (RD47) makes things look worse for Rezanaul. EdJohnston (talk) 16:59, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I make the change and that is aggression when I just did what was required on behalf of WP:3. Any decision would have been by WP:3, changes would have been what the consensus was You do not see the aggression coming from the other two users Noorulah21 and Raoulduke47 with same aggression on talk page and the bogus sock charges? And the aggression here started by Raoulduke47? Enough of me explaining. Rezanaul (talk) 17:39, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I've gone ahead with an indef block of Rezanaul (talk · contribs) due to the behavioral similarity to HaughtonBrit, as described in WP:Sockpuppet investigations/HaughtonBrit. For example, the strong interest in having Afghanistan described as a 'protectorate' in the article Second Anglo-Afghan war. The same type of edits were made by IPs from Special:Contributions/199.82.243.0/25. One IP even opened a WP:DRN case in the effort to win this argument. If these IPs are not operated by HaughtonBrit, it's an amazing coincidence on a little-trafficked article. The IP range is now blocked. EdJohnston (talk) 01:41, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requested for Pending Change Reviwers Rights for Trial

Hi, Ed Johnston I've Requested to you Please give me Pending Change Userright for Trial. I've also Requested on WP:PERM But any Admin doesn't Attention on My Comment. Please see [[7] and [8] I'm also Read WP:RPC and WP:PC. Best Regards. Jiggyziz 🇮🇳Any Help🇮🇳? Contact Me. 06:59, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page watcher) Forgive my bluntness, but given your obvious incompetence in English (I really wouldn't boast of how many articles you've created), I would not grant you any special rights.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:21, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Jiggyziz. You don't seem to be ready for this permission yet, but consider making useful edits generally. This might increase the chance that your application would be granted in the future. When I peruse your talk page, I notice that there are many posts about your recent work. See all the messages that people have left you about 'moved to draftspace'. You should be reflecting on this feedback to see if you can improve your success rate in creating articles. Consider working together with another editor who is interested in the same area as yourself and has more Wikipedia experience. EdJohnston (talk) 16:33, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
EdJohnston, Thanks for these Suggestion I'm try to making Useful edit.Best Regards Jiggyziz 🇮🇳Any Help🇮🇳? Contact Me. Jiggyziz 🇮🇳Any Help🇮🇳? Contact Me. 07:39, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Edits

Hello. I believe I'm under a Zionist ban. Can I ask for this to be lifted for editing on Elazar Shach? Chesdovi (talk) 17:59, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

User:Chesdovi, please link to where this ban was imposed. Also, if there have been any complaints about editing of Elazar Shach on the admin boards, or AE, can you link to those discussions? Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 04:51, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
here. I am not aware of Elazar Shach at AE. I also ask for the Western Wall ban to be lifted. Chesdovi (talk) 20:35, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
User:Spartaz is the admin who imposed your 2016 topic ban from Zionism, which appears to still be in effect. Why not consult him? I don't have the authority to undo his action. Also, per this comment from a 2016 ARCA it seems you are still under an indefinite ban from WP:ARBPIA. There is material in the Elazar Shach article about the Arab-Israeli conflict. EdJohnston (talk) 22:35, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You appear to have made only 277 edits after returning from a 6m block for tban violations that expired in March. With respect you need to show that you can edit appropriately in less contentious areas before asking to amend any of your 3 topic bans. Indeed, I can't see how your existing edits to this article, which appears to be about a renowned antizionist is not already either a tban vio in some way but I'm happy to leave that with a reminder that you need to be cautious about your bans. Spartaz Humbug! 15:14, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Spartaz: My 6m block was implemented by an Admin who did not (as far as I can recall) have the courtesy to first discuss the issue with me. I was blocked for violating WP:ARBPIA for (among other innocuous edits) adding that David Ben Gurion ate pork. When I queried it, I was told to stop wikilawyering. So I left it. When I returned, I explained to the Admin how the original ban, as I was led to understand, did not preclude me from adding that DBG ate pork. He then justified the block saying DBG would have gotten the pork rashers from Christian Arabs.... (?!?) and eventually told me to find another Admin as my appeals were (again) becoming too "taxing" for him. So please take my edits from April 2020 onwards into account, as I believe the last block was unfairly implemented. Chesdovi (talk) 20:11, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Why Remove My Page Request?

"SobuJ Ahmed" BalPakna2021 (talk) 04:06, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You've been blocked for removing the AfD template from the SobuJ Ahmed article. EdJohnston (talk) 06:00, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Rollbackers Rights

@EdJohnston: Hi , Please give rollbackers right because i am remove vandalism on articles and userpage and talkpage i am already request on WP:PERM.Plase check me my contribution and gave me this right.Best Regards.Maniik 🇮🇳Any Help🇮🇳? Contact Me. 14:58, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Lazy Maniik. Thanks for repairing the recent vandalism to my talk page. You have requested rollback and you seem to be on the right track. I would only hesitate with rollback because, when you work with other users, you should be leaving them messages in correct English. For example, here your English was not quite right. ("No indication of Notability, No Meets WP:NOLP". It should be "does not meet WP:NOLP"). If you are leaving instructions for new users you don't want them to be confused. EdJohnston (talk) 18:46, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
EdJohnston Sir i don't know much english and only i can talk to anyone in english but i have a urge to understand english i only know simple english speaking i am indian i am proud of that yes i am wrong But I have given the link of the page correctly, doesn't any person make mistakes in your whole life? But I assure you that in future I will not make such mistake again. If I removed so much vandalism on Hindi wikipedia then I don't have to suffer so much, why am I asking you rollbacker because I edit on wikipedia from mobile, and twinkle and redwarn can be used only by destop site.Best Regards. Maniik 🇮🇳Any Help🇮🇳? Contact Me. 10:15, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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