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Invitation for Functionary consultation 2021

Greetings,

I'm letting you know in advance about a meeting I'd like to invite you to regarding the Universal Code of Conduct and the community's ownership of its future enforcement. I'm still in the process of putting together the details, but I wanted to share the date with you: 27 June, 2021. I do not have a time on this date yet, but I will let you soon. We have created a meta page with basic information. Please take a look at the meta page and sign up your name under the appropriate section.

Thank you for your time.--BAnand (WMF) 15:06, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to participate in discussion on Talk:LBRY

Hi Molly! I just wanted to invite you to have a discussion about some of the wording in the lead of the LBRY article that you've added. I've set-up a starting point here. I definitely don't mean for this to be critical of your contributions to the article, I only want to pursue NPOV. Thanks for all of your hard work here on Wikipedia! Brian Reading (talk) 17:29, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the notification, I've responded there. I have the page on my watchlist, so no need to ping or notify me here for future replies. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 17:45, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

F. Murray Abraham

Henanton (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has recommenced the war since the expiration of full-protection. Please examine his or her contributions for evidence of Assyrian ultranationalism and POV-pushing. Preparing a case for ANI, although he may need to be warned a few more times. Thanks. Elizium23 (talk) 04:03, 6 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've added the page to my watchlist. I see they've been advised to begin an RfC on the latest disputed content, so I would like to give them a chance to do so before taking any action. As for the pattern of POV-pushing, I think ANI is a better place for that—I am not super familiar with the topic area. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 15:40, 6 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Elizium23 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) All I did was add that his father was part of the Syriac Orthodox Church which is what the source states. I've already proven it on the talk page. There are no sources showing his paternal grandfather as being part of the Greek Orthodox Church. You can go ahead and make any report you want. Henanton (talk) 05:59, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Henanton, WP:IDHT applies Elizium23 (talk) 06:00, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Elizium23 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) No, it really doesn't. I already conceded and won't add Assyrian. I'm adding that his paternal grandfather was part of the Syriac Orthodox Church which like I've said so many times, was also known as the Syrian Orthodox Church which is clearly stated in the source, not Greek Orthodox. Henanton (talk) 06:03, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Henanton, no, it really does, because we've told you, time and time again, and there is ample documentation: the "Syrian Orthodox Church" was historically used to refer to the Church of Antioch, also headquartered in Syria, and this precisely explains why the source says what it says, but you just can't hear us over your own walls of text. Elizium23 (talk) 06:05, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Elizium23 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) It's funny you say that yet provide no documentation and there is none provided by the person I was arguing with. Every single search and source and I've provided tons state that prior to the year 2000 the Syrian Orthodox Church was the name of the Syriac Orthodox Church. Here is another source: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/250227702_After_the_Ottomans_The_Renewal_of_the_Syrian_Orthodox_Church_in_the_Twentieth_and_Twenty-First_Centuries_1

Just search, "Syrian Orthodox Church" on google and see the results. None of them say anything about the Greek Church and F. Murray Abraham never said his paternal grandfather was part of it. He said he was part of a church similar to the Russian and Greek Antioach. That's it. This is embarrassing at this point. Henanton (talk) 06:15, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Henanton: This is really a conversation that ought to be had at Talk:F. Murray Abraham. I would recommend also including in that discussion an explanation of why Abraham's grandfather's specific church is something that ought to be included in the article at all, as it is unusual to include that much detail about extended family in biographies unless those family members are themselves notable. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 14:27, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Eugene Gu

Let the record show I tried my best, but with the conversation on my talk page and the discussion on Talk:Eugene Gu, I believe that AsianAmericanAdvocate and the IP are incapable of a rational policy-based discussion together. AsianAmericanAdvocate actually reverted my removing personal attacks against them because they wanted a record to paint the other person in a bad light. However you choose to intervene, the discussion isn't helping anyone–I'll start an actual RfC once they're out of the picture. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 09:46, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Theleekycauldron: I am watching the talk page, though I apologize for being slow to intervene in this most recent blow-up (I was offline). I have shut down the disruption on the talk page and given the IP a last warning. I didn't see the conversation on your talk page until you mentioned it; I see you don't wish for it to continue and so I didn't reply there, but I have replied at User talk:AsianAmericanAdvocate#Regarding the conversation on Theleekycauldron's talk page. It's intensely frustrating to try to have a content discussion when various individuals insist on slinging mud (as you aptly put it), and I appreciate your attempts to do so regardless. I'll try to keep a close eye on the page. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 14:24, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@GorillaWarfare: frustrating indeed. No problem on the timing–thanks so much for the help :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 23:13, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – June 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2021).

Administrator changes

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Arbitration

After a Clarification request, the Arbitration Committee modified Remedy 5 of the Antisemitism in Poland case. This means sourcing expectations are a discretionary sanction instead of being present on all articles. It also details using the talk page or the Reliable Sources Noticeboard to discuss disputed sources.

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:45, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There’s a troll attack— need help

Hello ma’am, there’s a group of trolls in the middle of attacking Kim Reynolds. It’s getting very severe and we need help. Could you please protect the page and/or block the IP vandals? Thanks, Helen (let’s talk) 20:24, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sure thing. I've protected the page and blocked the latest IP range. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 20:26, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your recent edits

Regarding the Winston Boogie Smith protests, should the library in Wikimedia Commons be renamed? Are you able to do that? There are several photos here[1] that are really about Winston Boogie Smith protests, not the actually killing of Winston Smith. Or should the Commons category should just be "Winston Boogie Smith" to cover the broader topic area? Just pointing this out as you appear to be an expert for these matters. Kind regards, Minnemeeples (talk) 20:42, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I was thinking the category seemed misnamed, too. I'll go ahead and move it. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 20:47, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Schazjmd (talk) 00:03, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting article despite clear justification

Hi,

Can you please explain to me why you reverted an edit made on Ideological bias on Wikipedia despite a factual justification for that edit being provided?

Are only certain approved editors allowed to edit on Wikipedia now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.87.12.34 (talk) 01:38, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I did explain: [2]. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 01:53, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You did not explain. There is literally no record of any explanation from you anywhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.87.12.34 (talk) 02:18, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The warning was on your talk page, which I linked to you above. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 02:29, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not talking about a warning. A cut and paste warning followed by banning someone for making a justified edit is merely an abuse of power, not an explanation. I am talking about an explanation for your revert. You still have not justified that, nor responded on the talk page of the article itself despite three separate opportunities to do so (and, I might add, a growing consensus on the issue itself). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.87.12.34 (talk) 03:08, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You are certainly entitled to your own opinions about templated messages, but they are widely used and well accepted as sufficient warning before a block. You were warned about edit warring, you continued to edit war, and so I blocked. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 11:36, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Help with page protection please.

Hello, I noticed you previously added a page protection template for the Miloš Obilić article. Is there any way you can please help restore the template, possibly for a longer duration? As soon as the protection expired there was an act of vandalism which started a cycle of edit warring again. The culprits try to add unsourced content, without any discussion. Your help would be greatly appreciated.Spirit Fox99 (talk) 07:21, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, it looks like Scottywong already applied new protection to the page. In the future, it's generally quicker to request protection at WP:RFPP. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 14:41, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thank you.Spirit Fox99 (talk) 23:44, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Good call

		The Editor's Barnstar
		For taking a remarkably poor article by the scruff of its neck and dragging it into the light Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 20:59, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for drawing attention to it! GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 21:00, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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You have shown interest in post-1992 politics of the United States and closely related people. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

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Template:Z33 Cameronnewland (talk) 21:52, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Cameronnewland: If you are holding off on your report because you were concerned I might not be properly notified of the American politics discretionary sanctions, there is no need. If you are alerted of discretionary sanctions by an editor, that editor can automatically be considered aware of the sanctions. I also was an arbitrator in one of the cases in which the sanctions were authorized, so I think I can probably be safely assumed to be aware of them... GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 21:59, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

LBRY

I stumbled across the LBRY talk page. So much projection! At the moment I use my real nickname in the parentheses after my sig. Now I will use my pronouns instead and find another place for 'Phil'.

Your posts to that page are exemplary. — Neonorange (talk to Phil — he/him/you) 04:39, 18 June 2021 (UTC) still working on it[reply]

Trolley Problem reversion

Thanks for the note. There is a lot of material on the talk page about this (most of it from me, but see in particular the quotation from Daily Nous for the insider view). Over the past year I have been editing the article in accordance with what is certainly the original and virtually exclusive academic use of the term "the trolley problem". The nonacademic use is sometimes different but there are few if any RS that clearly use Trolley Problem to refer to individual scenarios, rather than for brevity after stating "the" problem in the conventional academic terms. 73.89.25.252 (talk) 17:24, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]