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Please don't post any hateful speech, offensive, or disrespectful in the talk page. They will be completely removed. Also, make sure to press "New Section" its much easier! Thanks. --ItsPaide (talk) 23:35, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Damage Totals

Just so you know - The damage totals for certain systems that impacted china were updated by me on monday after the chinese member report to the wmo was released. this is where the ip has got the damage totals from.Jason Rees (talk) 02:57, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh ok. I thought it was unofficial, but I didn't read too much, sorry then. ..ItsPaide.. 16:10, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Im not going to call the CMA damage totals to the WMO official nor unofficial, but i will instead say that they are a sourced damage total rather than what was there before. If we find better totals when we research the systems then we may use that presuming it is sourced.Jason Rees (talk) 16:39, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
How about EM-DAT? Select Eastern Asia as region, Period as 2010-2013, and the disaster group as Natural. This is for E Asia, China only. If you dont have time:

China:

Cyclone Damage (USD) Killed
Usagi X 20
Jebi 20,000,000 X
Utor 2,120,000,000 88
Rumbia 177,000,000 7
Soulik 410,000,000 9

Now for the Philippines:

Cyclone Damage (USD) Killed
Shanshan X 6 [citation needed]
Usagi X 5
Utor 33,000,000 14[citation needed]
Rumbia 1,000,000 7
Trami X 31

Remember, the damage is in USD.

What do you think? ..ItsPaide.. 16:57, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

For Shanshan, the NDRRMC said in their final situation report that there was 4 dead 2 missing, so we need to find a source that says the two missing were subsequently declared dead.Jason Rees (talk) 17:20, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
How about the others? Especially Trami with 31 dead, but the page lists it as 2. How about the indirect from the Philippines? (18) Maybe they're only counting damage and deaths for the country itself. Should we stick with AON Benfield? ..ItsPaide.. 17:37, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Have a bit of patience :) - Im just trying to go through the NDRRMC reports for the Philippines and check the totals and am up to Fabian. If you want to make my life slightly easier you could get me the PAGASA names for the systems above.Jason Rees (talk) 17:57, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Rumbias 7 deaths check out per the NDRRMC, but the damage does not yet.Jason Rees (talk) 18:09, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well then, you're in luck :)
I agree. ..ItsPaide.. 18:54, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

..ItsPaide.. 18:16, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  1. 6633ff; color: #ffffff;">..ItsPaide.. ]] 20:37, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
Ok thanks for that ill start working to add it to the season effects section, can you just double check the Chinese totals on Page 16 in case i have made a mistake in the conversions.Jason Rees (talk) 21:27, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You converted it wrong except for some, you didn't multiply 100. Correct totals:
  • Bebinca - 1,644,280 US Dollars
  • Rumbia - 192,380,760 US Dollars
  • Soulik - 557,410,920 US Dollars
  • Cimaron - 325,567,440 US Dollars
  • Jebi - 8,056,972 US Dollars
  • Utor - 3,535,202,000 US Dollars
  • Trami - 563,988,040 US Dollars
  • Kongrey - 21,375,640 US Dollars
  • Usagi - 4,340,899,200 US Dollars
  • Wutip - 3,288,560 US Dollars
  • Fitow - 10,381,983,920 US Dollars
  • Nari - 82,214,000 US Dollars
Correct me if I'm wrong but you only took tht total But didn't multiply by 100 except for usagi, wutip, and maybe fitow ..ItsPaide.. 02:29, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You are probably correct - if you want to and trust these amounts enough - you canstart adding them in to User:Jason_Rees/scratchpad1.Jason Rees (talk) 04:50, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Will do, but while I work on that you should update the totals for the ones listed above. ..ItsPaide.. 16:05, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I changed the ones with articles (Rumbia, Soulik, Cimaron, Utor, Trami, Nari) ..ItsPaide.. 18:20, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ok what im going to do right now is get a rough spreadsheet for the damages deaths and missing per country sorted with sources noted. I will subsequently upload it to google docs later.Jason Rees (talk) 18:29, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Go ahead! Link me when ready ..ItsPaide.. 18:31, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I dislike these IPs. Always reverting revision when the damage total is correct. Somebody convince them that the damage total is correct... ..ItsPaide.. 22:10, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Dont do anymore edits changing death tolls or damages until the spreadsheet is ready, once it is done we can start pointing the IPs in the right direction.Jason Rees (talk) 22:13, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm only concerned about Trami. I'm leaving it at 27 with a source for now until it's ready. ..ItsPaide.. 22:18, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This is nowhere near finished but here is draft 1 of the Spreadsheet.Jason Rees (talk) 03:19, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Table
WMO name PAGASA name Damage (USD) Deaths
Sonamu Auring Minimal 1
NO_NAME Bising $34,000
Shanshan Crising $255,000
Yagi Dante
Leepi Emong
Bebinca Fabian $1.6 million
Rumbia Gorio $192.38 million 7
Soulik Huaning $557.41 million 11
Cimaron Isang $325.6 million 2
Jebi Jolina $9.06 million
Mangkhut Kiko
Utor Labuyo $3.6 billion 97
Trami Maring $579.7 million 29
Kong-rey Nando $21.4 million 7
Usagi Odette $4.38 billion 38
Wutip Paolo $5.9 million 46
Fitow Quedan $10.38 billion 11
Danas Ramil
Nari Santi $232.61 million 34
Wipha Tino $100 million+ 41
Francisco Urduja
Krosa Vinta $6.3 million 4
NO_NAME Wilma
Haiyan [still counting up the deaths and 2013 $$$] Yolanda $8.33 billion 5826
Podul Zoraida (168 million?) (31?)

Tables are neat. I make them because I have as of December 9, 2G wifi so I can keep track of it without it loading for such a long time. ..ItsPaide.. 01:08, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Any updates? ..ItsPaide.. 23:51, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry its been a busy week - Vietnams country report came out with 24 persons dead confirmed due to 18W.Jason Rees (talk) 00:31, 15 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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