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Speedy deletion declined: Josh Levine

Hello LightGreenApple. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Josh Levine, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article is not substantially the same as the deleted version. A new deletion discussion is required. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 21:11, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Jordan Barker (magician)

Hi LightGreenApple! I am writing to ask you to reconsider your proposal for the deletion on the page Jordan Barker (magician). The show 'officially amazing' in which the record is being showcased, will not be broadcast until late March, and the Guinness world record database is not updating the main page for highest throw of a playing card, until the show has been aired nationally.

I wrote to Guinness about this and received this response -

Guinness World Records-Tracking Id:48894‏

Thank you for your enquiry. In order for the records we have filmed for our new TV show to have the biggest impact, we hold back the records from appearing on the website until the show airs. Once the TV show goes out, your record will be visible online. Congratulations once again on your Guinness World Records achievement.

PLEASE DO NOT REPLY DIRECTLY TO THIS EMAIL AS THIS COMES FROM AN UNMONITORED EMAIL ADDRESS.

You can contact us and make an enquiry via: http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/register/login.aspx by logging in on the website, and selecting your claim ID number.

There you can click on ‘Make an Enquiry’ or to find more information about the record breaking process whether that is: having an Adjudicator present at your record attempt, how to request the use of the Guinness World Records logo for your event, ordering extra certificates or application review time.

Yours sincerely, Tom Ibison Guinness World Records

I'd like to point out that magician and card thrower, Rick Smith, Jr. has a wikipedia article focused on his world record achievement for the furthest throw of a playing card. I believe this therefore follows similar interest to Jordan Barker (magician) page as they follow similar causes in the public's interest.

I hope you take this into account when reviewing the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thorpeparkdude (talk • contribs) 22:45, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Karri Koira

Accompanying music videos are usually mentioned in music related articles. The artist doesn't only have "one song chart", but also an album in the top 10 of the album chart. And just because you find the subject unnotable, doesn't mean everyone else will. Tagging for tagging's sake can also be seen disruptive sometimes. Widr (talk) 23:52, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Best Use of one's time

Hi LGA - I've actually enjoyed our discussion re deleting the portrait of Quaytman. I'm fairly unfamiliar with the image policies, and now understand the frustration shared by many veteran editors. US Law really does permit much much more use of copyright materials than Wikimedia has proposed. Their intention seems to be to steer well clear of any potential controversy, which does sound like a good strategy in the early development of an underfunded group. It's up to individuals to enforce, just like the US jury system - which actually entitles individual juries to tell the law to go to hell. Our situation is a judgement call - there are thousands of examples that have gone unnoticed with no impact - so I won't discuss it here. I'm not sure how new of an editor you are, but when I started, I also focused on following policy and finding minor infractions to correct. It was a good way to learn. Now I regret many of the AfDs I launched, like Ambulance_(Blur_song) which was ratified, then I decided to not implement! (I was MJH). Since that time I have found it much more gratifying to create new articles, or substantially improve them - actually adding to the resource. There are plenty of cops walking the beat, so I have abandoned that, except in the case of vandalism, or well intentioned people damaging articles with a WP:POV. You seem like an intelligent person, so I ask the rhetorical question - what's the best use of your time?--Nixie9✉ 16:39, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Highways Agency.svg

Hello, file Highways Agency.svg is non-free / non-public domain - the image is covered by Crown Copyright in the United Kingdom. It is therefore non-free in the US, too.

Additionally, image size should follow WP:MOSIM.

Regards, kashmiri 23:18, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry that is not the case, in the US (where the wikipedia servers are located) the logo is not covered by copyright as the US has a higher standard of originality than other countries (and probably the United Kingdom) see WP:PD#Fonts, so the logo is free to use. LightGreenApple talk to me 23:24, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, this is not a font or logo with unknown copyright status whose "threshold of originality" needs to be ascertained. The HA logo is expressly covered by Crown Copyright, being a work of Her Majesty's Government. It is published on US-based Wikipedia in compliace with international treaties related to copyright. "Anything published in other countries and copyrighted there, is typically also copyrighted in the United States" (WP:Non-free content#In general). kashmiri 23:44, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It is a logo consisting of the letters HA and the words Highways agency, it is exactly the sort of logo that is detailed in Threshold of originality and if you read the text of both {{pd-textlogo}} and {{PD-ineligible-USonly}}. I have taged the file with {{Wrong-license}}. LightGreenApple talk to me 23:57, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Your argument would be valid with logos/images whose copyright stems from the "threshold of originality" concept. The HA logo has nothing to do with "threshold of originality" - in the UK, US or elsewhere. Rather, its protection stems from the fact that this is work of the UK Government. In other words, even if it were a single letter, it would receive cover of the Crown Copyright. If you are still not convinced, I don't actually mind asking for opinion of other editors. kashmiri 00:51, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I see nothing that allows for Crown Copyright to extend to the US, copyright in the US is governed by US law, and a court would be bound by the prior ruling not to grant the United Kingdom government protection where no such protection would exist if the same works were created by a US citizen. Feel free to ask away. LightGreenApple talk to me
It is not up to a court to grant copyright protection: the work is already protected in the United States by the provision of the Berne Convention to which the United States is a signatory (and which is thus binding on US courts). kashmiri 11:00, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok to put it another way a US court would not grant damages to the United Kingdom government for any claimed breach due to the US standard of threshold of originality and would rule the logo is not copyrightable and thus is public domain. LightGreenApple talk to me 20:01, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mug shots

Hello.

I added my rationale at File talk:Gustavogonzalezcastro.jpg. Cheers. ComputerJA (talk) 09:08, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Organization Islamic Cooperation Summit

It's a free image from the Egypt Presidential Spokesman here.... https://www.facebook.com/egpres.sm/posts/211789675627448

Official Egyptian President page https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.470934606295795.109342.377633175625939&type=1 --elbarck (talk) 01:39, 9 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I worked in journalism for 10 years, we always considered any image, statement or video released from an official Spokesman as an official explicit release of publishing :).... It would be weird to ask the Spokesman for his Permission for publishing :).... DUDE HE'S THE OFFICIAL SPOKESMAN :)

If Reuters published that image it'd say released from the Egyptian presidency as CBS NEWS did in this link with an image in the same album I put your link to you :) CBS NEWS titled the image with "AP Photo/Egyptian Presidency" http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57568313/islamic-summit-backs-syria-dialogue/

The same Yahoo News did here (AP Photo/Egyptian Presidency) http://news.yahoo.com/islamic-summit-urges-dialogue-syria-121723036.html/ --elbarck (talk) 03:04, 9 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Ziade Palace.jpg

Hello please reconsider your tag to the above mentioned file

Fair use tag added as requested.

best regards. Eli+ 21:06, 9 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: Darwin Bowls Club

Hello LightGreenApple. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Darwin Bowls Club, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 03:00, 10 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure about the idea of transferring this to Commons? I ask because while I do understand the bit about "consists of typefaces, individual words, slogans, or simple geometric shapes", that doesn't mean that the logo is not subject to copyright. It seems to me the legal issues around this are not entirely clear. Anyway, I just thought I'd mention that. I'm not a copyright expert by any measure. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 18:03, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As the logo of a US company that only "consists of typefaces, individual words, slogans, or simple geometric shapes" is is not eligible for copyright protection as it fails the Threshold of originality test. LightGreenApple talk to me 19:52, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

SUL

Confirmation that I wish to userp fr:User:LGA on fr.wp. LGA (was LightGreenApple) talk to me 00:54, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Done LGA is now available for usurpation on fr:wikipedia. Chaoborus (talk) 01:29, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Princess Ileana

I really haven't a clue what all this is about.

My mother died in 2004; I have her albums. From these I scanned Christmas cards with photographs that Princess Ileana (who also is now dead) had sent to my mother.

I had never heard of the Princess, but found the wikipedia article, to which I added the scans. My reason for doing so is to make these pictures available to anyone interested - "to add to the sum of human knowledge".

If you are so petty as to want to delete them, then I REALLY don't care.

Such "censorship" action reflects on you, not on me.

RobinClay (talk) 23:32, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It has nothing to do with "censorship" and the accusation of "censorship" can been seen as offensive, you should not make it.
In this case the image you uploaded was not yours, you had a print of a photograph than was sent to your mother presumably in December 1937, however the copyright to the original photograph still belongs to either the person who took it (or their descendants) or more likely the descendants of the Princess (it being a work for hire) that copyright will likely not expire until about 70 years after the photographers death (or maybe longer). So unless you can show you have the correct permissions to uploaded it, or can make a fair use claim for its use you can not uploaded it to WP. LGA (was LightGreenApple) talk to me 01:48, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

David Kada

I found some newspaper articles about David Kada, so I removed the speedy and prod that you added. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 00:23, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Learn to tag things for deletion better

Not willing to consider discussing this anymore as it is not going anywhere

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Notice all the deletion tags you're making that're getting rejected?

Robot Combat League will air in about a week on a major television network, as the article made explicit. Perfect Red Cube (talk) 23:56, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well no actually they are not, on the other hand your article got deleted, perhaps you should learn to demonstrate significance of events. LGA talk to me 00:25, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes they are, there's at least two on this page. And what "event" was it talking about? Its a show. Within a week the article will be back up. Tell me: why do television shows on major networks not deserve pages?
Also, my point wasn't that all your requests get rejected, but that this one was misguided - so the deletion doesn't have anything to do with being shot in the foot. Within a week the article will be back up. You've pointlessly had it deleted only for it to come back.Perfect Red Cube (talk) 00:30, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Two out of about 200 images and articles I have tagged in the last month. As for your article why not work on it in your sandbox until such time that it meets the requirements ? LGA talk to me 00:39, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
And you tag things recklessly. You didn't answer the question, tell me: in what way were the requirements not met? Something being viewed by hundreds of thousands of people on a major network doesn't meet them? Perfect Red Cube (talk) 00:42, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I do not tag things recklessly (recommend you read WP:NPA), the article you created did not explain why the TV show was significant and should be recorded in an encyclopedia, fix that and it won't be deleted. On that note I think we are finished discussing this. LGA talk to me 00:47, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

How do you expect a TV show article to establish how significant the subject matter is?

Go and see Articles for creation

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

When there's pages for Brickleberry and The Secret Circle pretty much anything seems to be deemed "significant" if it gets broadcast. Perfect Red Cube (talk) 01:02, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:OTHERCRAP does not help your argument, find some reliable sources that are independent of the subject use them to show and demonstrate why the TV show is notable. Also consider that this is an encyclopedia and just because some event or tv show happened does not mean it should have an article. LGA talk to me 01:32, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I did and they were cited in the article - do a search for "Robot Combat League", plenty of news organizations, TV sites, etc. talk about it. And where do you keep getting this stuff about an event? Nobody's talking about an event. Every single that gets even mildly spoken of merits an article Perfect Red Cube (talk) 01:37, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The article was not sourced to any reliable sources. Now reaching WP:IDIDNOTHEARTHAT. Please rather than wasting your and my time here you have a go at creating the article at Articles for creation. LGA talk to me 01:48, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Hastily trying to delete things without getting them verified

It most certainly did cite reliable sources - does the SyFy network itself's website saying the show will premier next week not count as a reliable source? Then what possibly could? I'm beginning to doubt you even read it. And why are you following what I'm doing on other pages? Its creepy Perfect Red Cube (talk) 08:07, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Reply File:Gutmann brothers.jpg

Unfortunately I don't know who is the author of the photo or where it was taken, in the book it only says it was taken around 1880. Hope it helps, cheers --Bbrezic (talk) 17:10, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, I'm glad I could help. Book was published in 2012. Best regards --Bbrezic (talk) 22:33, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I also presume that this photo is out of copyright, especially if year the 1880(as it is written in the book) is correct and if we look at the Croatian Copyright Act of 1991.

{{PD-Croatia}}

Best regards --Bbrezic (talk) 11:18, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The issue is the part that requires it to be published before 1949, can that be shown ? LGA talkedits 20:11, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Rupe Tomay Bholabo Na.jpg

How right you are. I normally see this tag applied to local images when the whole thing is gone, e.g. you can't see any of it. Partial corruption wasn't at all in mind. If this were a free image, I'd not delete it because we could crop out the bad chunks, but since it's a nonfree image whose contents presumably all must be present for it to be useful, there's no point in keeping it. Nyttend (talk) 00:29, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh look

Robot Combat League Told ya. You were only delaying the inevitable Perfect Red Cube (talk) 18:38, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ace of Spades

The Ace image is being used in the Card Sharks article and is used to show their version of the Ace of spades. –BuickCenturyDriver 16:07, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

it seems you removed that image from the article to have it deleted, why are you trying to have them removed after I put a fair use rationale on each one? –BuickCenturyDriver 23:44, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There was no FUR for use on that article. LGA talkedits 23:49, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The file page does have a FUR, you might have overlooked it. –BuickCenturyDriver 23:58, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
For use on Ace of Spades and not for use on Card Sharks. LGA talkedits 23:59, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I fixed it. the image is for Card Sharks, not Ace of spades. –BuickCenturyDriver 00:04, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

So you have, however use on that article would still not meet WP:NFCC#8 IMO. LGA talkedits 00:07, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

My images

To answer your question regarding the images I uploaded:

–BuickCenturyDriver 07:31, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Source

I don't disbelieve you. In fact I very much believe you. Given you give specific years, I assume you have a source for your claim at ITN that NK has announced an end to the ceasefire before? Can you give that here or at the nomination? Thanks! μηδείς (talk) 01:54, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I got it from the body of the linked article which in turn sources it to yonhapnews.co.kr. LGA talkedits 02:04, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, excellent. μηδείς (talk) 02:15, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

Hello, LGA. You have new messages at Sphilbrick's talk page.
Message added SPhilbrick(Talk) 21:37, 9 March 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.[reply]

Nicolas Maduro

He is not, currently bus driver, he is a politician for many years, as deputy chairman of the congress, chancellor and Vice President--Warairarepano&Guaicaipuro (talk) 01:01, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Guy Boutilier 2.jpg

Hi LGA. I have removed the speedy deletion tag from the file, since it's got an OTRS pending tag on it. The problem with leaving the speedy tag on is that it leaves the file languishing in one of our daily maintenance categories, which means extra work for admins who work those queues. The OTRS backlogs can be as long as a month, so if no acceptable email is received, the file might not be deleted for some time. Hence the speedy tag can and should come off. Best, -- Dianna (talk) 04:09, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kellylee Evans jpg

Hi LGA. I had a permission pending tag on the Kellylee Evans image and Kellylee herself assured me that the photographer sent the permissions via the correct Wiki forms. Please tell me what has happened and how I can get that picture up. Thanks, PC.Paradise coyote (talk) 15:46, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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