User talk:Ottawa4ever

SEMI-RETIRED

What does this mean? I wont be editing wikipedia as frequently as before, The edits I will be making though will be for maintaining current page work/creations. I will also still be actively involved in RFA requests. I expect this semi retirement to last for some time due to various time commitments in the next year, I will be back , but cheers and happy editing .

Welcome!

Hi all If i left a message on your page it probably concerns a recent change. If it was related to vandalism and you are not responsible please accept my apologies. If you wish to give helpful feed back please do and take care.

Grammar and Spelling checks are always appreciative on my user space pages. However profanity or comments designed in such a way will be deleted as unconstructive. Have a great day! :D

I prefer to keep conversations/threads together, so if you post here, I will usually answer here(but will try to address you on your talk page regardless); thus you may want to add this page to your watchlist. You can click here to leave me a new message.

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Archive:User:Ottawa4ever/Archive 2007-2011

Help needed

I have heeded your advice from the help desk and opened an RfC here Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Duke53_2. There is currently some discussion at the talk page there as well. I would appreciate your help and advice. Hoopsphanatic (talk) 03:17, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Ive left a proposal of my own for both sides to look at (simmilar to this though a tad different in mannor) if they would like on the disccussion section on the request for comment page (sorry terrible with links RC). Analysts proposal though may be easier to implement Ottawa4ever (talk) 18:33, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your input. Would you mind endorsing the RfC here Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Duke53_2. It simply states you tried to mediate the situation. Thanks. Hoopsphanatic (talk) 21:32, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

I looked into this, it seems Duke has compromised with Alanysts proposal and placed the `no index` stub on his page. Which should mean that your username should no longer be visible in a search engine. Hope this helps, I dont think endorsing the rfc is necessary at this time unless im missing something or this isnt agreeable(i think you said it was okay). take care, hope to see you back editing someday :) Ottawa4ever (talk) 22:15, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Tips for essay writing

18-March-2009: Many essays get removed from the category, so there are some issues to note. All essays can be judged as Wikipedia public-relations, so avoid too much negative talk. Try to emphasize a better future, or potential solutions: there are lots of people to help with anything (if you can reach them). Others have disguised criticism, in the form of semi-humor, but beware that some admins live in strict societies, where negative talk is swiftly censored. That's just the way those people were raised: "The nail that stands up gets hammered down". They tend to squash anti-talk and feel no sympathy for apologies. Because Wikipedia has over 9 million registered users, plus 9 million anonymous IP users, the audience you face is some portion of those 18 million people, plus others. Hence, try to create the best essay you can, perhaps revising several times in an off-line text file. I sometimes forget to mention the current time, but it is good to include "in mid-2009" (or such) because many issues change within 5 months. Currently, about 35% of English or German Wikipedia is written by teenagers, half of Wikipedia is under 30 years of age. Remember at the bottom, put category:

[[Category:Wikipedia essays|Title of essay]]

Good luck with your efforts. -Wikid77 (talk) 20:29, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Requested Account on the ACC account creation interface page

Ive made a request for tools for account creation. This edit is meant as a confirmation edit. Ottawa4ever (talk) 22:18, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

You have been approved to use the Internal Account Creation Interface! Some important notes before you get started:

1. Abuse of the interface is not tolerated, and access can be revoked by an interface admin at a moment's notice
2. If you end up hitting the 6 accounts-per-day limit, you can request the Account Creator userright from RFPERM. However, like access to the interface itself, it can be revoked if abused.
   

Now that you have read the generic warnings, please read (or re-read if you have read it already) the tool's documentation page which includes a link to the tool's request-filling interface. If you ever need any help, I myself am an interface admin and developer, so feel free to drop me a line on my talk page if you need help, or would like a new welcome template added to the autowelcome feature!

IMPORTANT: If you did not request this account, please NOTIFY ME IMMEDIATELY.
--FastLizard4 (Talk•Index•Sign) 05:48, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Engineers Without Borders Chapter Pages

Hey, I'm pretty new to Wikipedia so I'm not sure if this is where I'm supposed to reply. I'm bringing up the Wiki with the President and VP Communication of the U of A Chapter and we should have something up soon. We're just trying to find some media sources. Thanks! HY7 (talk) 22:54, 30 March 2009 (UTC)HY7

Talkback

Hello, Ottawa4ever. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Help desk.
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Replies have been made at the help desk. If the problem is solved, please place {{resolved}} ~~~~ at the top of the section. Thank you, ZooFari 21:57, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome

It's always good to hear that I have not overstepped by reverting edits to a user's talk. I was almost certain you wouldn't mind (considering the edits), but it's good to know for sure. See ya 'round. Tiderolls 21:24, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

They were nasty edits but its in line with my own user talk policy of removing inappropriate text being vandalism thanks again.Ottawa4ever (talk) 00:37, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

reply

Reporting all of them to AIV would be the best way to do so. Until It Sleeps 18:12, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Reported them, kinda an off chance but they are all editing the same articlesOttawa4ever (talk) 18:20, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Careful when reverting page blanking

Just a heads-up. Sometimes page blanking is not vandalism. For example, Drobizam was blanked by the original author, indicating a desire for the article to be deleted. I deleted it under WP:CSD#G7. The correct action would have been to re-tag the blank article with a {{g7}} instead of reverting the page blanking. Thanks! — LinguistAtLarge • Talk  21:37, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, realized shortly after it wasnt a vandalism and I reverted my warning. I did not think to just add the tag back, but thought the tag would come back with the article for deletion, nether the less your solution seems the way to go thanks. Ottawa4ever (talk) 00:20, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!

My friend, that was some truly great work. This dopey kid looks as if he wants to be caught! It'll be interesting to see how the CU turns out. I plan to watch this one with great interest. Thanks for your help! --PMDrive1061 (talk) 18:56, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Old School Vandalism hunting

Paste your requests here:

I have reverted 100 cases of vandalism and warned the users without using Twinkle, Huggle, or popups. If this barnstar is granted, could you please place it here. Thank you. Griffinofwales (talk) 18:20, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your support

Unfortunately, my RFA was closed recently with a final tally of 75½/38/10. Though it didn't succeed, I wanted to thank you for your support and I hope I can count on it in the future. Even though it didn't pass, it had a nearly 2 to 1 ratio of support and I am quite encouraged by those results. I intend to review the support, oppose, and neutral !votes and see what I can do to address those concerns that were brought up and resubmit in a few months. If you would like to assist in my betterment and/or co-nominate me in the future, please let me know on my talk page. Special thanks go to Schmidt, MICHAEL Q., TomStar81, and henrik for their co-nominations and support. — BQZip01 — talk

FWIW, I thought your question was a good one.

spoiler

Why don't you do something constructive about it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.19.136.213 (talk) 23:01, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Potentially we could look at it as a Trivia section though that could be integrated into the article or removed. Thanks for responding.Ottawa4ever (talk) 23:04, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

section is flaged now for trivia. The info should still be integrated Ottawa4ever (talk) 23:17, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Re:Spoiler

Yeah, go ahead. Until It Sleeps 23:07, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Shameless thankspam

FlyingToaster Barnstar

Hello Ottawa4ever! Thank you so much for your support in my recent RfA, which passed with a tally of 126/32/5. I am truly humbled by the trust you placed in me, and will endeavor to live up to that trust. FlyingToaster

old school vandalism fighting

Am I allowed to use popups to view diffs or warn? Griffinofwales (talk) 19:21, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Nope no popups. You could use the recent changes tab to spot something and revert. the idea would be to train you into being able to pick off suspisicous edits as was done before these useful scripts came, gives more apprciation to them as well :) Ottawa4ever (talk) 19:27, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

OK, when I first joined 4 months ago, I fought vandalism using recent changes and the vandalism warnings. I will try to get a 100 by the end of this week. Griffinofwales (talk) 19:32, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Am I allowed to use my rollback tool (I'm a rollbacker)? Griffinofwales (talk) 19:36, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Am I allowed to use tabs with my browser? For example, If I spotted vandalism, I could pop up a new tab to warn the user, and with the current tab go back to recent changes. Griffinofwales (talk) 19:40, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Do I have to include the article name in my warnings? Griffinofwales (talk) 19:49, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

I would not see a problem with using roll back providing it wasnt used with software (like huggle), And also using multiple browser windows i dont think thats a problem either for this. Just no automatic tools from software to detect and revert vandalism. All old school, well mostly.... :) Ottawa4ever (talk) 19:58, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Standard warnings (you should include the name of the article for good practice (but dont be too discouraged if you forget once or twice)) use a template if you can. Ottawa4ever (talk) 19:58, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

I have reverted different types of vandalism 47 times. I might do some more later, but I should be finished by Saturday. Have that barnstar ready. Griffinofwales (talk) 00:17, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I went to WP:VAND and looked up sneaky vandalism. To qualify for the reward, does it only have to qualify as sneaky or does it have to be "extra" sneaky? Griffinofwales2 (talk) 16:06, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Exactly as its said there, any example of this will do (providing its been in an article for over a year). A good example of this was the jacques plante article. Some edits were made 3 years or so ago and his statitistics for 5 years were deleted. No one noticed for over a year or so, that would be a good example. If its extra sneaky, then there be more kudos for finding it, but im only looking for sneaky ones :) hope that clears it up Ottawa4ever (talk) 17:43, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Since no one else seems interested in the barnstar, I have decided to bother you endlessly with status reports. As of now, I have reverted 88 edits (and warned the users) the old school way. The rest will be completed by the end of Saturday. Have the barnstar ready (you could check my contribs but it would be difficult to sort out, and for all you know I could be using popups to view the diffs ahead of time [I'm not]. However, if you still want to view my contribs, just ignore the twinkle edits [I used Twinkle for the multiple user vandalism edits]). Griffinofwales (talk) 04:51, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Really dont know how many people read WP: reward board but i figured for those who do why not a lil reward. I tried to do this once myself when i first started with wikipedia, it takes about a day I think. I would imagine a tech savy person could find a way around using pop ups to help, but your still fighting vandalism and going through the process and thats what its all about. If you do the sneaky vandalism one make sure you post the diff showing which one. Happy hunting Ottawa4ever (talk) 13:36, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

It's not hard to do it (I do it when I'm not using Huggle). You activate navigational popups in Gadgets (My preferences), then you go to recent changes. If you want to view a diff, you put your cursor over the word 'diff', and a popup will show you the diff. If it's vandalism, click on the word 'diff' and if you have Twinkle activated, you click Rollback (VANDAL). Also, on your user page you mention that you will give a barnstar out to the person who fixes your revert count. I can do that, but I need to know a time when you won't be editing, that way I don't have to keep recounting (all times in UTC please). Griffinofwales (talk) 16:16, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Hehe, what would that be, 3 awards potentially? (My worry there would be three antivandalism awards from the same account lol, might not be as prestigious but i could find away to make them different and noticable). Whole idea is working to reduce vandalism, and why not get recongnition for it? For the user page, Nah its cool just a little easter egg award for those reading the user page (that is unless you really want to). I do think its a cool idea for a user page, but using huggle some users could have 10000 of these little ticks so it can get crowded. Ottawa4ever (talk) 16:30, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

OK, I should be finished in about an hour w/ the 100 reverts. I will try to find some sneaky vandalism, but I probably won't put much time into it, and I won't work on the revert count. So, that should leave me with 1 barnstar which is enough for me. Do I get another one if I do another 100? Griffinofwales (talk) 16:34, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Wont stop you form doing another 100, Not really defined that its a limit of one per person (kinda implies it but doesnt say that), but there can always be exceptions for great anti vandalism work. But Id go for a sneaky one. They exist but theyre hard to spot unless you know the subject matters well Ottawa4ever (talk) 16:41, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

The sneaky ones are hard. One clever IP tried changing the Pope's page (this was 2 months ago[the content was about gays and lesbians, but when you read it, it didn't seem like vandalism]), and it probably would have stayed there, but I picked it up through recent changes. The best ones for reverting sneaky vandalism are the content developers. They know what they're writing about so they know what's true and what's not. I will look through some of the articles I specialize in to see whether I find any. But, usually the vandalism finds you, not the other way around (i.e. you are reading an article [for informational purposes] and you find a false statement). Griffinofwales (talk) 16:52, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Exactly. And you can easily overlook it. Why its so sneaky, and dangerous for the project, good luck. The other trick to is finding out how long its been there which adds another element to the thing Ottawa4ever (talk) 16:57, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Userpage

I took the liberty of updating the revert count on your userpage, which at the time of this writing, is 802 :). Until It Sleeps 22:20, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Much thanks! My user page has an award description for doing this work. Ive given you a tiny award for appreciation, but more so because you are approaching 40000 edits which i think is fantastic. Ottawa4ever (talk) 17:44, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks so much for the welcome & great contributions, Ottawa4ever! I really appreciate your bringing the Gourman Report up. Now that I know it's out there I'm looking forward to researching that topic more in the future. Cool stuff. 174.21.10.53 (talk) 16:58, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

List of Skittles products

Picking up your challenge. You a big fan of skittles or something? Geraldk (talk) 15:37, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Just want to see this list be improved, and not be curropoted as much. Ill keep an eye on your progress, Lookin good so far. Ottawa4ever (talk) 19:07, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

It looks like it gets hit with a fair amount of vandalism too. Limited computer access over the next few days, but I'll continue working on sourcing. Geraldk (talk) 19:32, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Up

Up (film) redirects to Up (2009 film) , it should be the main title. Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 22:27, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm didnt realize Up (film) redirects there, Probably due to it being the mainsream search since the other films are older. Quick read of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (films) explains that disambiguating films of the same name, the year of its first public release should follow in its article name. So long as there is no risk of ambiguity or confusion with another existing Wikipedia article the film could just take its name, but in this case theres two others in 76 and 84. Hope that helps any Ottawa4ever (talk) 22:40, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Should Up (film) be a disambiguation page? Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 22:45, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

There is already an Up (disambiguation) page. However guidlines say nothing against making one specifically for the films See WP:DDAB. Ottawa4ever (talk) 22:55, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

I'll bring it up on the article Talk page. Thx. Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 22:57, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Old School Vandalism hunting

Hi! I noticed your challenge, and I've done at least 100 vandalism reverts and warnings using neither scripts nor any additional programs during the time period you've set out. (Also, I have to say, this challenge made me smile.) Sophus Bie ^(talk) 11:00, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Hurrah! Thanks! Sophus Bie ^(talk) 22:06, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

i dont care

are you like a moderator or somthing you leave a commet like five seconds after i do its just scary —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cowmchasnon (talk • contribs) 22:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I am not a moderator.Ottawa4ever (talk) 22:44, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Ransom of the Seven Ships

Thank you for reverting the edit by 24.206.111.156. I was getting tired of having to deal with all of the edits on the page by myself. Thanks, 71.32.247.78 (talk) 23:05, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

not to worry, :) Ottawa4ever (talk) 00:12, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the barnstar. Much appreciated. Geraldk (talk) 19:52, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

It's 12:29PM EST

Do you not have a life or do you suffer from Agoraphobia? I understand that some people's life revolves around being a Wikipedia admin, but dude, seriously?

) everyone likes lunch Ottawa4ever (talk) 16:34, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

What?

I didn't vandalize it! I reverted it!--Owl 2 (talk) 16:30, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Was in the process of reveting the edit at the same time as you and it ended up sending you the warning by mistake. I reverted this as quick as i could. My apologies once again. Ottawa4ever (talk) 16:33, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh sorry. Apology accepted.--Owl 2 (talk) 16:34, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

My Apologies.

I need to apologise, a young relative gained access to my account and edited the Dutch Cuisine article, I apologise and promise it won't happen again. Mr George R. Allison (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:00, 16 June 2009 (UTC).

Old School Reward

I happened to peruse the reward board today, and noticed that your first Vandalism reward had expired - thought you should know. I might have accidentally come close, or actually completed it, but I don't really know. Cheers! ~ Amory (user • talk • contribs) 19:07, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

totally missed the one date there! thx for catching that. The challenge still goes till July 15th. There is still one award left to awarded for that specific challenge :) Ottawa4ever (talk) 19:36, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Done. I think I have closer to 300 in the time period (see here) but I only recently hit the required number of notifications (having used twinkle beforehand). ~ Amory (user • talk • contribs) 23:29, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! ~ Amory (user • talk • contribs) 03:26, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

From: Ihatebeano Thanks for the mini award! :)

George King

Thank You. What is "The Prince of Santorini" anyway?WQUlrich (talk) 19:38, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Old school Vandalism Hunting 2 (notice)

Since you supported me in the initial patrol notice at WP:RB, I thought I would let you know that I changed the above offer's expiration date from June 15, 2010 to May 15, 2010, as I could find no evidence of an extension. If I was wrong, please accept my apologies. Griffinofwales (talk) 00:51, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

That is fine. I intended for it to be a year from the 15th of june (few updates later), but its far off, if need be ill extend it later Ottawa4ever (talk) 13:46, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Old School Vandalism Hunting 2

Hey, I saw this on the reward board a while ago, and I found a vandalism edit that is more than two years old. It's the addition of a spam external link in a highschool article. Here is the diff of it being added in. It wasn't made into a link, it's just plain text, so no one ever removed it. Its still on the article, but I will remove it as soon as you respond. Regards, Fingerz 02:48, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

The link was for a high school reunion apprently. But since its been broken for two years and no one has fixed it and the page no longer exists and has been left in its present shape, Its hard to tell wether the website was spam or not. I think the contributer didnt intend on it being vandlaism as some of the other material that he added was valid but it still was embedded. Feel free to remove it, i think you had a good eye for tracing it back so far ;) Ottawa4ever (talk) 16:03, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Ahh, ok. After it came up with an error, I wasn't exactly sure what the website was about, but I see now that it probably wasn't a spam link. I'll remove it now.Fingerz 23:32, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

deleting a page on the Yenice Cag Private High School

I was trying to delete the article I copied and pasted under this name because I wasn't sure the article was about the same school. Subsequently, the information I was trying to add was the only information on the page. I think that's why it seemed like I was trying to delete the whole article. But I think I'm fine for now because I rechecked the information and it seems that the article is about a bunch of schools of which Yenice Cag Private High School is one. Does that make sense?Naners10 (talk) 00:54, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

yep no worries. Just be a bit careful that you develop the article a bit further. Usually the best way to start an article is to model it after another school article add a few secondary sources, (some websites that arent from the school but talk about why the school is important and notable), and the page is good to go. If it lacks these things some people may put a deletion tag on the article. In this case if your still developing it there will be a tag you can place called 'hang on' (itll be listed in the box if its proposed for deletion). Put that on your article and That'll give you some more time to work on the article a bit more. Good luck Ottawa4ever (talk) 00:59, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Yenice Cag Private High School article: secondary sources

I made a link to the Özel Çag Lisesi - Directory of International Schools in Turkey webpage from which I copied the article. Should I just write my own article using that information? Or should I keep the article I copied? Naners10 (talk) 00:59, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

If the info is copied from another website youll need to paraphrase it or its a copyright violation.Ottawa4ever (talk) 01:01, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Yenice Cag Private High School article: hang on

Can I only select the "hang on" option if it is nominated for deletion? I will surely work on paraphrasing it and l'll take a look at some other school pages. Thanks for all the help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Naners10 (talk • contribs) 01:04, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Jack Layton

I don't know. Was I the one who locked it? -- Earl Andrew - talk 21:59, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I will unprotect it. -- Earl Andrew - talk 01:12, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

RfA Thanks

WikiThanks

Hi Ottawa4ever. I just wanted to thank you for contributing to my RfA. It wasn't one of the best RfA's held, but I've learned a lot from the experience. Sorry for sending you the message today, and not last week when my RfA was closed. I've been very busy the last time. Thanks once again! Kind regards, LouriePieterse 10:23, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Ottawa4ever. You have new messages at Ronhjones's talk page.
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Re: Minor query about COIN

Hello, to be honest I'm fairly new to the COIN process. But in general, I don't see what the harm would be, and I'm assuming in the situation you've proposed that the editor himself isn't blocked (only his article is deleted). What would probably be most appropriate is to request a "courtesy blanking" from an administrator, I've seen that done in various places like AfD discussions where an editor wants information removed for privacy or other reasons. It's unlikely that the actual history of those pages would be deleted, however, so if someone wants to investigate the editor's past activity for some reason they can do so. For example, let's say that the editor starts some trouble somewhere down the line on some other issue and is brought to the Administrators' noticeboard, it would be possible to show his prior behavior in those old discussions through history links. But at the same time a casual reader wouldn't run across his name, so his privacy is pretty much upheld. I hope that helps. -- Atama^chat 16:18, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Old school Vandalism Hunting 2

Not sure if bot-created article with error count as vandalism or not, but I have found one error that is in an article for 1.5 years. In Acanthochitona, the taxonomy authority year should be 1821, not 1921. The error was there since the article was created and I have just corrected it.[1] I have external evidence verifying my claims.[2] (Just for background info, there are multiple taxonomy authority with last name "Gray", but only one is alive in 1900's and that individual studies spiders, not chiton) OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 02:57, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. Actually the user who created this article was banned for massive copyright violations. It was suspected that alot of the articles he was involved in were cut and paste. Good eye I'll count this :) Ottawa4ever (talk) 13:08, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Be sure to update your reward page to keep track =) OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 15:51, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

File:Puzz3dny.JPG

I've nominated File:Puzz3dny.JPG for deletion at Commons, since it seems to me that the puzzle itself is copyrighted by Hasbro and therefore the image as a whole cannot be free. However, if you'd like to write a non-free use rationale for it, I can undelete the original version here on Wikipedia (which was deleted when the image was moved to Commons). Please leave a note at the deletion request page on Commons if you'd like me to do that. Thank you, and sorry for the extra trouble. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 13:59, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for keeping me in the loop. Unfortuneatly Id like to keep it but i think your right about the image. I cannot really justify it as being free (though id like too). The only thing i can think of is that it helps describe the notability of the puzzles and what they are and considering that one puzzle was their rarest and hardest to find i thought it would be appropriate to explain the product, however; would possibly an alternative photo merely showing the pieces (not identifying the paticular puzzle) be a better image? Or would that still be against copy right? Willing to discuss ( I dont have a commons login so ive responded on my talk page Ottawa4ever (talk) 17:53, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

I did try to write a non free use rationale but I am not famillar at this point with the process so im learning its posted on the deletion discussion thx Ottawa4ever (talk) 20:14, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

PDF

Thanks Ottawa. I've responded at my talk page [3]. Best, --The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 00:16, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

RE:Thank you

You're welcome. =) Chevy Impala 2009 15:40, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Tom Paton (ice hockey)

On July 23, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tom Paton (ice hockey), which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 18:09, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Re

Hehe, thanks... He also made you a little present Triplestop x3 01:25, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Donno if Id call that a present lol, Thanks again for your help :)Ottawa4ever (talk) 02:43, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the nice link re Colin Franklin

While I found a number of other sources, your link provided over half the relevant citations.--SPhilbrickT 23:25, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for fixing the article! :) Ottawa4ever (talk) 09:08, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject TRANSWIKI

Hi. In light of recent events and community concerns about the way in which content is transferred I have proposed a new wikiproject which would attempt to address any of the concerns and done in an environment where a major group of editors work together to transfer articles from other wikipedias in the most effective way possible without BLP or referencing problems. Please offer your thoughts at the proposal and whether or not you support or oppose the idea of a wikiproject dedicated to organizing a more efficient process of getting articles in different languages translated into English. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 12:59, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you...

...for the kind words. They are greatly appreciated.

I just needed a couple of days to back off and cool down. Though this really wasn't a spur-of-the-moment decision...it's been a while brewing, and things just came to a head with the ANI. Ah, well...I'm back, now, and don't intend leaving any time soon. :-)

Once again, many thanks. And I'll certainly take that barnstar, if you're still so inclined...--User:AlbertHerring ^{Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla!} 02:32, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Ive left you a little welcome back note  :) happy editing Ottawa4ever (talk) 15:16, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Wow, thanks. I should disappear more often. :-) --User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao ^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:23, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

lol, dont let it go to your head. I always think its a learning experience on here and we do the best we can to improve as editors. Theres discouragements along the way, but Im impressed at your dedication to the project, and your talk page did say you needed some time. I honestly think its good to know that your a valued member of wiki. Ottawa4ever (talk) 15:40, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

re:RfA

Nominees are expected to stay out of the discussions in the "voting" sections. However, they are expected to answer the questions in the questions section. If you'd like me to address the concerns you posted on my talk page concerning my RfA, please post them as questions to the questions section. Thank you. The Transhumanist    18:02, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I can see your concern responding there. But thank you, I will redirect my concern in the form of a question Ottawa4ever (talk) 18:07, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Ive redirect my concerns in the form of a question please do keep in mind it is purely optional. Ottawa4ever (talk) 18:29, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you!

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GHWB vomiting incident

Thanks for the tip! jdb (talk) 23:28, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Helping to preserve Canadian local history

The Canadian Content Award Awarded to Ottawa4ever for their tireless devotion to the improvement of the Alma College article and in doing so, helping to preserve the memory of a Canadian architectural gem, now lost to us forever.

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DYK nomination of Old St. Thomas Church

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thanks will post back as soon as comments are addressedOttawa4ever (talk) 22:36, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

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Did I forget to thank you? ..

Ottawa4ever ,Thank you for participating in my RfA, which passed nearly unanimously with 174 in support, 2 in opposition and 1 neutral votes. Special thanks goes to RegentsPark, Samir and John Carter for their kind nomination and support. I am truly honored by the trust and confidence that the community has placed in me. I thank you for your kind inputs and I will be sincerely looking at the reasons that people opposed me so I can improve in those areas ( including my english ;) ). If you ever need anything please feel free to ask me and I would be happy to help you :). Have a great day ! -- Tinu Cherian - 06:02, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

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DYK for Cheapside Street Bond Warehouse Fire article

Hi there,

you left a message on my talk page about nominating my article for DYK (I didn't know there was a nomination process for this, but it makes sense!).

I would be really happy if we could do that - what do I do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by FDCWint (talk • contribs) 13:16, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi Ottawa4ever - I would be very happy if you could go ahead with the process - I'll watch and learn for next time! I don't know if you have considered the 'hook' line - possibly that the incident was (and remains) the worst peace time loss of life for the British fire services?

FDCWint (talk) 13:56, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that Mate - I am soooo pleased right now :)

FDCWint (talk) 08:02, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

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RfA thanks

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which failed with 21 support, 39 oppose, and 11 neutral. This is highly belated, but I wanted to thank you for the support in the RfA discussion. I do apologize for taking so long to reply to you, after the failure I laid back for a while. I just dove into another article and am working more diligently on WP.

Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 06:40, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

U of Ottawa

I know you're knowledgeable about U of Ottawa. Is there any chance you could take a look at the athletics and fraternities/sororities sections? They could use some major expansion and some of the Greek organizations might be wrong/missing. I've been having a difficult time finding information on those two aspects of student life on the university's website, and I feel someone with closer ties to the institution would be better suited to fill in those sections. -Mabeenot (talk) 04:53, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the query. I dont have much information about fraternities/sorities at U of O. I was going to dive into womens hockey for an article this weekend. Interestingly this article; Ottawa Gee-Gees could partially be merged back into the main article. It would fill out the athletics section. The only real thing wed need are references for most of the facts we bring over. but i could expand a bit of the athletics at the university in my search this weekend as i gather some sources. Ill post as I come accross them, happy editing Ottawa4ever (talk) 11:08, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

RFA

Thanks for you support. That RFA was one of the worst I've seen. An editor thought that I was acting in bad faith on AfDs, but later removed it calling his own comments rubbish. An editor said that I assume bad faith and was referring to himself. He was obviously acting in bad faith because he asked me to nominate an article for deletion of someone that he was in a dispute with. The self-nomination comment was the weirdest comment ever. I'm not sure if I will be able to expand my answers. I've never been good with communication skills. Joe Chill (talk) 19:19, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

I wanted to say something there for balance purposes, but the RfA had closed. FleetCommand tends to act a little nasty with almost anyone that disagrees with him (this isn't an aspersion -- there's a reference thread in my talk page archive). It's unfortunate that he held a grudge from that encounter with you, but that speaks mostly of him rather than of you. I, on the other hand, think that you insist too much on the letter rather than the spirit of GNG. Pcap ping 07:35, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

^^^Ive posted a link to your message on Joe Chills page so that he gets your message Ottawa4ever (talk) 19:04, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Re: Help Q

If the article you referred to was Montreal Stars, I see no reason at all that you wouldn't have a claim to use a "non-free logo to illustrate the primary subject". For a fair-use rationale, you could do something like the FUR for The Losing Machine. I don't see a problem if it's a new article on a new subject. Franamax (talk) 15:36, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Ive uploaded the image today, with the tags and rational following the Toronto team. Ottawa4ever (talk) 09:26, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

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St Michael and All Angels Church, Blantyre, Malawi

Thanks. Glad you like it. -AndrewDressel (talk) 17:38, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Participation at my RfA

Thank you for taking the time to weigh in on my RfA. It was successful, in that the community's wish not to grant me the tools at this time was honored. I'm taking all the comments as constructive feedback and hope to become more valuable to the project as a result; I've also discovered several new areas in which to work. Because debating the merits of a candidate can be taxing on the heart and brain, I offer this kitten as a low-allergen, low-stress token of my appreciation. --otherlleft 14:39, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your RfA Support

Ottawa4ever - Thanks for your participation and support in my recent successful RfA. Your confidence and trust in me is much appreciated. As a new admin I will try hard to keep from wading in too deep over the tops of my waders, nor shall I let the Buffalo intimidate me.--Mike Cline (talk) 09:50, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Denis Rancourt

Denis is not currently a professor at uOttawa. The entry should at least say former professor. The other reason that the entry should not be included is that he is only one of many current hosts. How can you justify his name and not many others? This is not encyclopedic information IMHO. DGERobertson (talk) 23:26, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

My thoughts on this are; that I am perfectly happy with including other hosts (or other positions that notable people involved/associated with the university have) which are considered notable by WP standards, that is a good idea I think. I am also fine with it saying a former professor, another very good idea. I hope this addresses your queries at least on my point of view? thanks for messaging me, Ottawa4ever (talk) 10:11, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

I will give that a try! Keepscases (talk) 16:10, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Neil R. Darrach

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Ive noted your concerns and will update the page accordingly thanks for pointing out a few things. Ottawa4ever (talk) 15:11, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

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DYK for Bazar de la Charité

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Conflicted licensing on image File:Amcdougall.jpg

The above noted image or media file appears to have conflicted licensing. As an image cannot be both 'free' and 'unfree', a check of the exact status of this media/image concerned is advised. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 15:24, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Indeed does not really work. Ive removed PD-can from it as its likely that the article is more appropriate under the unfree status of the newspaper clipping rather than a photo. If this does not address your concerns plaese let me know. Thanks for bringing to my attention. Ottawa4ever (talk) 16:06, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom/Article title

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My RfA

Thanks for your positive words on my talk page. I'll definitely be back at RfA in the next three months and just trying not to bring up any problems in the meantime, while sorting out the problems that were brought up before. Cheers, -- BigDom 17:01, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

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Reopened the afd per your request. Shimeru (talk) 19:46, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Study club fire of 1929

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McKee refinery fire

Work continues apace, thank you for your kind comments. We really need a link to the Texas project, presuming there is one. I am constantly amazed how much of history is overlooked. Remarkably, this little Wiki-Page will soon be the main mention of this gastly event on the net. Imagine that! I would appreciate your help with my crude attempts at references. Paul, in Saudi (talk) 04:12, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page Ottawa4ever (talk) 08:27, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Chauncy Kirby

Hi, you'll probably know whether the spelling should be Chauncey Kirby or Chauncy Kirby. If the article is wrong, let's move it. - Fayenatic (talk) 20:26, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

It seems some news paper articles have him as Chauncy Kirby, But his canadian census records[4] indicate it is spelt as Chauncey (assuming this is the right record). As well Some newspaper clippsings show him as Chauncey; [5]. hope that helps but likely adds to the confusion Id probably go with that Chauncey. Ottawa4ever (talk) 20:49, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Right, I've moved it citing this evidence, thanks. - Fayenatic (talk) 13:23, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thank you for the barnstar. strdst_grl (call me Stardust) 12:40, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Shirley Davidson

Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 00:03, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks! --The High Fin Sperm Whale 17:02, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Zelda Collection and SNES emulation

It turns out that the Zelda Collection you referred to in this edit didn't include aLttP, reportedly because the GBA remake was still being sold at that time, so that disc included NES and N64 emulation but left out SNES. Do you have another example? Anomie⚔ 12:19, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

You are indeed correct. I was mistaken. I am sure its happened before on other complimations on the game cube. I have no source and i dont think it is an emulation, but Mega man 7 (in the anniversary collection) might (and i stress might) be a type of snes rom. There could indeed be others id have to think of them though....Beyond all this, the wording you used in your subsequent edit after mine is just fine. Sorry for the confusion. Thanks for pointing it out Ottawa4ever (talk) 12:27, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you!

Ottawa4ever - Thank for your participation and support in my RfA.

I can honestly say that your comments and your trust in me are greatly appreciated.

Please let me know if you ever have any suggestions for me as an editor, or comments based on my admin actions.

Thank you!  7  23:26, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

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Thank you

Thank you very much for your support and comments in my RfA. It was an eye-opening experience. I will not be trying for it again any time soon, though. Cgoodwin (talk) 07:35, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dr Neamati

Apologies, but I corrected some grammar in your note on the above discussion. I know changing others' comments in these discussions is a Bad Thing^TM but I'm OCD and the sentence wasn't making sense! -- role^player 18:00, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Not a problem, I can see why, thanks for the correction :) Ottawa4ever (talk) 18:03, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank semi-spam

Thanks for your support in my RfA. I don't have nearly as many DYKs as I would like; yours, however, are quite impressive. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:33, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Fixing my stuff-up

G'day from Oz; thanks for doing that, much appreciated. YSSYguy (talk) 12:13, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

not a problem Ottawa4ever (talk) 13:44, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Paul Hackman

Thanks very much for your comments on the Paul Hackman article, and I'm glad you found it interesting. I'll definitely look into the dyk application. Thanks again! Frehley72 (talk) 15:51, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

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Thank you for a prompt reply Ottawa. The website is there and shows the list of projects that have been done till 2004 and the website up-gradation has started and would be completed with a couple of weeks time. You mention that the website of the organization doesnt serve as a secondary source and only a primary source, then please check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nespak - Nespak Pakistan which only presents two references that are of its own site (no secondary sources). There are also many statements in that article that need citations for e.g the last sentence. This is common for numerous articles concerning pakistani companies (I can give you the article names too if you want) With these emerging pakistani companies and organizations its very hard to find secondary sources since the primary sources (their own websites) are rare. I believe it is for this very reason why wikipedia launched WikiProject Pakistan to improve wikipedias coverage of pakistan.

In all fairness Ottawa, I feel that ZEL's article has more secondary sources and more notability ( even in its un updated website) than NESPAK(that article doesnt even have one) if you need a comparision, one can google both organizations and compare its notability. I dont see how ZEL is not as notable like NESPAK or other articles on pakistani organizations. I would request you to kindly remove the afd from the article please.

btw. by ZEL, I mean the Zishan Engineers article

Wether Nespak or other articles (The Zishan Engineers article) on wiki do or do not meet notability requirements is up for any editor to provide input who reads the article. I have not read nor assessed the NESPAK article yet. But i have read the Zishan Engineers article. The latter I felt needed secondary sourcing, My own search was fruitless, and perhaps their may be something out there. But In the recreation no secondary sourcing was provided still. If you think the article you read (nespak) is not notable you are welcome to begin a deletion discussion about that or other articlesWP:AFD, or best yet try to improve them if possible by finding secondary sourcing. But generally I find this a good read about other articles existing when another was deleted; Wikipedia:Other stuff exists. Its not a policy piece but a good essay reflecting some opinions of other wiki editors in view of deletion discussions. If you feel that you could get Zishan Engineers together though in some time, you could begin the article within your user space here; User:Uzairsyedahmed/Zishan Engineers (click and create at the redlink, that is your userspace). This will give you the time necessary in order to find some reliable secondary sourcing and allow you to launch the article properly when you find secondary sourcing. See Wikipedia:First_article for some useful tidbits. When you create (if you do at your userspace), place this tag at the top; {{Possible article}}. This will inidcate that this is a draft article and it will not show up on any searches on google (any search egine) until it is ready. This cant be indefinete because its would be a fake article (See Wikipedia:FAKEARTICLE ) if it were (usually some say a page can be kept in user space less than a few months). But it will allow you some time to find some secondary sources adequate to have the page meet WP:GNG. I hope some of this helps more. Ottawa4ever (talk) 23:25, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

In addition if you are concerned about if a reference can act as a secondary source, you can ask here of course, or ask at WP:help desk. Cheers Ottawa4ever (talk) 23:31, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply.. I did discuss the above question with Schuminweb who stated that general thrust of the deletion of the article was that the organization's own site is insufficient either for the A7 "claim" to notability, or the WP:CORP real notability. I am given to understand that an organization's own website can be used to guage the notability? In that case, should I revise my article after the new website is uploaded reflecting the latest developments of the organization? It is hard for me to find secondary sources other than what I had shown in the article, I will still keep looking. I read the other stuff exists page of wikipedia and it mentions an analogy that if x exists which is equally famous so should this. Am i wrong in using analogies of articles on pakistani organizations to compare with mine? Thanks alot for all the help man —Preceding unsigned comment added by Uzairsyedahmed (talk • contribs) 00:38, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Not exactly, im refering mostly to the caption; Plenty of articles exist that probably should not. Equally, because articles must wait for someone who is interested in the subject to notice they are missing before they are created, a lot of articles do not exist that probably should. So just pointing out that an article on a similar subject exists does not prove that the article in question should also exist; it is quite possible that the other article should also be deleted but nobody has noticed it and put it forward for AfD yet for the other stuff exists section. An organization's website can be used to compliment the article but a secondary (apart from the company) reliable source is needed to ascertain the companies notability. In fact The definition of notability isnt that the company is not notable, its just the article has not established the companies notability if it exists in the forms that were deleted, and until that is shown its hard to keep the article. I hope that clears up and not complicates things further here. Ottawa4ever (talk) 01:06, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

So a bit more specific to your queries, You could find some reliable secondary sourcing (not the company website) and work on the page in your userspace (see above). Theres no time line when you have to start you can tonight if you wnat, so long as you keep working at it and place the {{Possible article}} tag on your develop userspace and not indefinetaly keep it there it should be ok. When the new website launches, then info from that can also be applied at your userspace article, but bottom line secondary sourcing apart from the company website needs to be provided before it can see the mainspace. After thats done it can be launched to the mainspace. Do keep in mind any conflicts of interest if necessary when creating this article See WP:COIN for background. I know its alot of links and reading here. But to avoid deletion in the future some steps need to be followed. Ask away if you have any questions. Ottawa4ever (talk) 01:25, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Looking for adoption

Hello. I am new here, so I do not know very well how to use Wikipedia. I am a student and I will have to write an article by the end of my school semester. Would you like to adopt me? :) P.S. I am a spanish-speaker and I need to improve my English. If I wrote something wrong, forgive me. VB (talk) 00:28, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Morning, Seems Qwerp has said that they would adopt beating me to it, [6]. Anyway, if you do have any wiki related queries Im more than happy to help, feel free to drop by here anytime. Ottawa4ever (talk) 10:15, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! VB (talk) 00:55, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi! I am a new user and would like to be adopted! Infoman.48 20:33, 4 May 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Infoman.48 (talk • contribs)

Sources

What do I put as a source if it is just simply me playing the game and experiencing it all firsthand? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevollio (talk • contribs) 05:49, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Video game magazines are good ones (nintendo power). If you have access i think you could check NP Sept 1991, or the NP players guide on the game called amrio mania (but those are older and you might just not have access to them. Sadly i dont anymore. Im pretty sure Ive read it somewhere before. Or find a reliable website which says the same thing on the web. You should be able to find something as it was a key diif between 3 and world (3 was short term world, could be indefinaetly...)Ottawa4ever (talk) 09:06, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Ridiculously late

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Scooter (band)

Hello! Can we protect this page against anonimous users? There so many vandalism. Unfortunately, I don't know where I should write to administrators about this problem.--Oleg Abarnikov (talk) 09:45, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

I cant physically protect it myself (not an admin), but there does seem to be alot of varied IP edits causing issues for this page over the last month. You can post a request; here Wikipedia:Requests for page protection, you might ask for temporary semi protection as a way to go; See Wikipedia:Protection policy. Hope that helps Ottawa4ever (talk) 12:21, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. I'll see situation in this article and may be send the request. It's vandilized from time to time, anyway.--Oleg Abarnikov (talk) 13:08, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

An update from adopt a user

Hi there Ottawa4ever! You may be wondering, what have I done to sound the alarm this time? Nothing. I'm messaging you in regards to the adopt-a-user program, which currently has a backlog of users wishing to be adopted. This doesn't make much sense, as we have a considerable list of users offer adoption, so there shouldn't be any backlog. I've begun to eliminate this backlog myself through a matching program, but I need your help to make it work. Of course, adoptees and adopters don't have to go through there, but I believe it helps eliminate the backlog because someone is actively matching pairs.

On the list of adopters, I have modified the middle column to say "Interests." It's easier working with other users that have similar interests, so if it's not too much to ask, could you add your interests in the middle column? For example, if I was interested in hurricanes, computers, business, and ... reptiles? I would place those in the middle column. Counter-vandalism and the like can also be included (maintenance should be used as the general term). The more interests, the better, since adoptees can learn more about you and choose the one they feel most comfortable working with. The information about when you're most active and other stuff can go into the "Notes" section to the right.

Finally, I've gone around and asked adoptees (and will in the future) to fill in a short survey so adopters can take the initiative and contact users they feel comfortable working with. We all know that most adoptees just place the adopt me template on their user page and leave it - so it's up to us to approach them and offer adoption. So, please take a look at the survey, adopt those that fit your interests, and maybe watchlist it so you can see the interests of adoptees and adopt one that fits your interests in the future.

Once again, thank you for participating in the adopt-a-user program! If you wish to respond to this post, please message me on my talk page.

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Barber's pole

Thanks for your addition to the hockey section. If you would take a look at the rest of the article and think about any additions, it would be appreciated. I have kind of run that dog about as far as I can go, and a fresh perspective, especially an international one, is always good. Thanks. Happy editing. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 17:38, 26 November 2010 (UTC) Stan

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zishan Engineers (2nd nomination)

Because you initiated Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zishan Engineers (2nd nomination), you may be interested in Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2010 December 10#Zishan Engineers. Cunard (talk) 09:49, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Do you will adopte me

Goodmorning Ottawafourever,I read your page: You likes Hockey, Canada and Ottawa. I have same passion for Hockey (only women's hockey) and Canada (I love my country and tolerance beetween differents cultures). You created a page of montreal Stars: my love team in Hockey. We have similar interests. If you have any questions about me, take my talk page. Pass a good day my friend. bisous --Geneviève (talk) 13:17, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you darling Ottawafourever for your answer. I wrote a new page on a leader of my community in Montreal User:Genevieve2/sandbox01. If you want make the corrections. My written English is not perfect. I asked the Jewish project but nobody has still answered to me. Pass a good afternoon --Geneviève (talk) 16:58, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Bonjour darling Ottawafourever, Thank you for your advice, critiques and opinion. Wikipedia is a long apprenticeship for me. I am going to study everything. I shall be back on Wikipedia, Monday because this evening there is a Sabbath for Jews. Then there is a hockey this we: Boston Ladies vs Montreal Stars at Etienne-Desmarteau arena. Very important match in CWHL.

Be that I can put this banner ? on my page

amitiés et gentillesse, votre français est très bien, pass a good week-end with your family --Geneviève (talk) 13:48, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Je vous remercie de votre aide précieuse

Hello darling Ottawafourever, Thank you so much for your advice and opinions. You are kind and you give me a assistant. I wish a beautiful holidays for you and for your family at Christmas and civil New Year. Peace and happiness to you and to your family. To us Jewishs, 8 days of the beautiful holiday of Chanukka are ended. But now I shall take little times to go to walk in the Botanical garden and play outside. Bisous et beaucoup de joie pour vous durant les vacances des Fêtes --Geneviève (talk) 13:37, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

a big Disappointment for me

Bonjour darling Ottawafourever, I have a note this morning on my talk page--Geneviève (talk) 16:32, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

I have reverted this series of edits to Federation CJA as they do no comply with Wikipedia's policies on neutrality and promotion. Also, all of the sources you added were primary sources, published by Federation CJA themselves. Please do not use Wikipedia to promote an organization, no matter how worthy the organization may be. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:09, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Women's Hockey

Bonjour darling Ottawafourever, I worked several texts on Women's hockey:

• CWHL
• National Women's Hockey League NWHL
• Western Women's Hockey League WWHL
• Canadian Women's Hockey League CWHL

In your back from yours holidays, please give me your opinion. Enjoy with this video ----Geneviève (talk) 22:00, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons

Bonjour Darling Ottawafourever, I will a little place for my photos on Wikipedia. And I find this place: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Genevieve2 Is Ok or not ? I go next wek-end take one or two photos of Centre Etienne Desmarteau . This to put one photo on its page Wikipedia. Also I want take Annie Guay's photo for the Wiki page in preparation. I will see Annie after the games Montreal Stars -Burlington Barracudas. Maybe I will also take a photo with Swedish player Danijela Rundqvist. I need your advice and opinions. Bon week-end, --Geneviève (talk) 16:23, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

replied on your talk, let me know if youd rather me be more concise on what to do Ottawa4ever (talk) 19:10, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Stargate Ark of Truth sales numbers

the total of 33 million that i put in there is correct and just forgot to put the source in ill try and find the source again as it has been a while since i looked it up.

Digmores (talk) 05:18, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, one big issue was that the oroginal source was left when you changed the number. This reported about 9 million (which the source still does today) and did not reflect the 33 million you added. Make sure whatever source you use is reliable one. Ottawa4ever (talk) 16:44, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Moving a page

Hello Darling Ottawafourever, now I understands how. Today, I opened a new page Quebec Phenix CWHL . But I lost my page of sandbox: User:Genevieve2/sandbox11 oupssss I cannot use it because I shall erase the new wikipedia page of Quebec Phenix. Now a new problem: The page Women in Judaism : I worked with 2 other persons a new chapter User:Genevieve2/sandbox08, see the discussion in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism I want to put the new chapter in the page (point 4.4 Reconstructionist Judaism) without erasing the official Wikipedia page. Just put the new chapter 4.4 with reference and link. Thanks for your help, pass a good week --Geneviève (talk) 20:46, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Addressed the sandbox 11 on your talk, not sure i understand the second issue fully will think about how to proceed, Ottawa4ever (talk) 10:49, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for providing information and help to a new user, I appreciate it very much. I would appreciate more information in dealing with that user and the editing. I repeatedly tried to discuss with him to no hope. I believe he is very biased and manipulating history to fit a agenda. Which should not be on a Olympic page to start with but that not the issue. TomasSpain (talk) 20:09, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

I dont know much about history articles otherwise I would contribute a statement on the dispute. However what i do find in content disputes is that consensus needs to be established on an issue. Consensus, loosely defined, means those with an interest in the article in majority agree wether something should be included/excluded, or if both you and the other editor agree to a resolution which isnt disputed by any other third party. You have both stated opinions on the matter, what would be good is if other editors also contributed their opinion as well on the statement (unless both you agree with the current version of the article). In the case where you still disagree theres two things you could do; (1) - you can tag the section by adding in the text at the top {{Disputed-section}} This may encourage participation from other editors, (2) you can go to WP:Third Opinion and seek an unbiased thrid opinion, - I would do this for you guys, but Im not comfortable that I understand the History of the land fully to provide what id say is an educated opinion on the matter. Otherwise we get into canvassing which just doesnt give us the neutral opinions we want in a content dispute. Hope this info helps, feel free to ask any queries Ottawa4ever (talk) 10:59, 21 January 2011 (UTC)posted on your talk page as well

Bonjour Chéri

Allo darling Ottawafourever, I hope that you are very well. That the temperature isn't too cold in Ottawa. At the end of January, I would like to make an archive in my Talk page ( my first archive...). How can it be done? I thank you for your advice --Geneviève (talk) 15:22, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Details are here; Help:Archiving a talk page; but basically all you have to do, is create a new sub page like you normally do for sand box, call it Archive 1 instead of sand box. Then Cut and paste the material you want to archive into the new archive page you made. The edit history will remain on your main talk page with this method. After you've archived the text you can create a link to it on your user page. Im no huge fan of archives myself, but it is easy to see the current discussions. Hope this helps, message me if this doesnt make any sense, Cheers, Ottawa4ever (talk) 15:58, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

A few additional notes are placed on your talk page Ottawa4ever (talk) 16:08, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

a special knight for the Women Ice Hockey

for Ottawa4ever

for your kindness, your availability to help and your work. --Geneviève (talk) 13:01, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Teams of Western Women's Hockey League

Bonjour Ottawafourever, this week I work pages on differents teams of the WWHL. But I haven't all the informations. Especially for the Coaching staff. Maybe you can help me ?

• Saskatchewan Prairie Ice
• Calgary Oval X-Treme

Thank you, merci de votre aide, תודה --Geneviève (talk) 15:49, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Maple leaf gave me a help for Calgary Oval X-Treme. We have to find informations for the other team. Thanks,--Geneviève (talk) 19:33, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Please help me for correction my text

Hello darling Ottawafourever, do you want to help me for the correction of my written English. I prepare a page on a French woman rabbi for March 8th. My English needs to be verified.

User:Genevieve2/sandbox194

Thank you for your assistance, merci beaucoup de votre aide, --Geneviève (talk) 19:33, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Salut Genevieve, Ill certaintly patch up some grammar. Im a bit stretched over tommorrow and the next, but Ill do my best to make some time. Will talk soon, a bientot Ottawa4ever (talk) 19:59, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Merci, תודה --Geneviève (talk) 20:27, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Goodmorning Ottawafourever, I also have modify and fact additions for the old page on his community : User:Genevieve2/sandbox1945

there 2 articles are connected . If you also want to correct this second page Thanks so much --Geneviève (talk) 14:57, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

a special Awards

		The Good Heart Barnstar
		for Ottawa4ever who clearly demonstrate a good heart, showing kindness and attention during my first time in Wikipedia / Cette décoration est pour Ottawa4ever qui m'a démontré de la bonté, de la gentillesse et de l'attention durant mes premiers mois sur Wikipédia / הגמול שלך ולמצביע אדיבות ואדיבות שלך .--Geneviève (talk) 22:07, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Pauline Bebe

Dear Ottawa4ever, Genevieve needs your assistance. I just sent her this message.

I am no expert on WP:dyk, but I believe that the time limits for applying will happen very soon. Ordinarily, there is a 4 day window from article creation (which I guess would run from the time I removed the banner, so that it was not your 'internal' document). I was not sure if Ottawa4ever had gotten back to you, and I don't want you to miss out, nor do I want to be a cause-in-fact of any loss to you, or for any ennui on her part. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 03:42, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

replied on her talk- Jayjg has listed it and set up some additional tips for her. Normally the dyk people are understanding though if its a day late or so though- but it should be within the timeline. Ottawa4ever (talk) 11:26, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:02, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Work Team Together for World Women's championship

Bonjour Ottawafourever, the 2011 IIHF World Women's Championship runs from April 16-25 in Zurich and Winterthur, Switzerland. I would like to write pages (or improve the existing pages) on the differents Women national teams. As my English language is poor, would be you available to correct my texts before publishing them on Wikipedia? I have about ten pages or twelve pages to be written in March and April 2011. I write also at Maple Leaf.

First example: the old page on the Norway women's national ice hockey team and my working User:Genevieve2/sandbox0345. Please your opinion and your advice, Thanks --Geneviève (talk) 15:38, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi Genevieve Id love to work on these articles, and this is a wonderful idea. But Ill probably (pending on a few projects which are occuring right now) be entering a decreased editing phase this summer unfortuantely. So if theres time ill periodically make a few grammar checks, but i cant garantee a level of involevment. Je regrette Ottawa4ever (talk) 11:11, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

A WikiProject for women in the sports

Bonjour darling Ottawafourever, please read this Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Women's Sport , j'espère que la vie est bonne pour vous et pour votre famille, Best regards --Geneviève (talk) 11:53, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Women's Hockey task force

Bonjour à tous, Hello Everybody, that think you of the eventuality of future a women's hockey task force ? Your ideas, opinions, criticisms and advices are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey. Thanks, merci, תודה --Geneviève (talk) 14:05, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I am new, making all kinds of mistakes, getting reverted and might be on the verge of being called a vandal (or worse!). Help - need a guide! Ellie Dahl (talk) 14:36, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

will reply on your talk...Ottawa4ever (talk) 09:50, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Fire Test - also Certification Listing

Similar to the Fire Test page, I have edited the Certification Listing page wiht the same issue in mind - it was a list of 'how-to' photos with undue weight. Kilmer-san (talk) 21:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

I have made a note on the talk page; I think it would probably be best to have a third opinion which is neutral there so as to emphasize the changes are in good faith and to due with being in line with wikipedia's policies. Ive suggested that there but may push for it anyway. Ottawa4ever (talk) 09:33, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

I note the reversion of my edits by Ahering@cogeco.ca to have this article conform to WP standards by deleting the "How To" stuff inserted by him, and your comments that the changes I made are proper. Thanks for requesting the third-party opinion, as hopefully will diffuse his confrontational style.

Just to put this in context, I have had numerous contentious conflicts with this editor on style issues. He has a ton of knowledge about the subject of fire stops, and contrary to clear WP policy, believes that gives him the right to insert details into multiple articles with undue weight, original research, and personal experiences, some without proper reference (as you have pointed out with this article) and much in a style similar to this page which includes multiple photographs with very captions with unneeded detail. They are unlike any other WP article I have seen, and results in more of a blog. He seems bent on trying to explain to the world what his personal achievements are, rather than contributing to the project in conformance with established guidelines. (For example, a while back, he tried to insert photographs of himself into various articles under the guise of demonstrating emotions, clearly with the intent of just trying to get his face into WP. Of course, others quickly reverted those edits and explained to him the obvious, which was it was clearly inappropriate.) This is regretful, as again, he really does know a lot about the subjects on which he comments, which is useful to the project overall.

I will wade back in, but in setting expectations, I hope the discussion of this article will not continue down the path as others in which he has been involved, which is more of what you already seen from him - his experience and knowledge and your lack thereof regarding the technical subject, claims that revisions are "unsubstantiated" even though WP policy basis was provided, and off-topic generalizations and opinions. The previous conflicts have eventually ended up with the article in conformance to WP guidelines, but it may take a while, and it may not be pleasant. Cheers. Kilmer-san (talk) 18:52, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Based on the recent editing to Certification listing, is removal of the RFC tag on Talk:Certification listing appropriate? Kilmer-san (talk) 18:39, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply, I think its fairly resolved, the article will always currently need work (as Jc3s5h points out on the talk that there could be globalization issues still yet to deal with) but i think at least the main concerns for the rfc have been addressed, I see it as resolved for now and am not against closing it. Ottawa4ever (talk) 10:13, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

That is of course that there should still be a globalization tag......Ottawa4ever (talk) 14:51, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

File:Trinity church.JPG listed for deletion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Trinity church.JPG, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Skier Dude (talk) 03:10, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I've moved it to File:Trinity Episcopal church Ontario Canada.JPG and popped it on the article named. Skier Dude (talk) 16:57, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Tlogo.jpg

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Thanks for uploading File:Tlogo.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Skier Dude (talk) 06:48, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

I endorse the speedy Ottawa4ever (talk) 17:15, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Request for your Wikipedian Wisdom

As a Wikipedian you must be brilliant, therefore I thought you might have some value feedback to offer.....

I am applying for a few social entrepreneurship fellowships and was wondering if you’d be kind enough to review the application essays (~5 pages). My idea involves technology, organizations and non-profit stuff.

If yes, essays are here: http://db.tt/TTrUiVS1 and here: http://db.tt/WRTrqKTf. I welcome any/all feedback in any medium. Please tear it up alive, you can’t hurt my feelings. If possible, by a week from today.

Thank you so much for considering! This means the world to me. I thank you advance-- I am forever indebted.

Thank you,

Luke taylorluker1@gmail.com Taylorluker (talk)