User talk:The Blade of the Northern Lights
If you have come here to post a long, profane rant about either me or some aspect of Wikipedia, I have no objections, as I think it's helpful to vent sometimes. I ask that you only 1. refrain from making personal attacks about other editors (besides me) and 2. avoid posting anything that might be construed as outing. Other than that, you may freely tell me that some guideline is a "fucking pain in the goddamned ass", or that my work was "a fucking pile of goddamn shit" as long as you have a reason why you think so- personal attacks don't bother me if they are made discussing a legitimate issue. I have no aversion to swearing myself, so don't post anything about me (or anything else, for that matter) that you wouldn't want to hear me say about you (obviously, warnings and the like are exempt from this). I will use your posts as the threshold for any particular conversation- if you ask me to tone down my language, I also have no objections. |
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Letting you know about discussion of flag icon issue in List of living supercentenarians
My apologizes, I reverted your revert (it was my first revert ever, and I was using TW for basically for the first time). So my edit summary apparently got cut off here. I did type, "BNL, you are aware of the discussion at VP, but check out Bermi" but edit summary was cut off. The last part was going to be, "but check out Bermicourt's edit here". Bermicourt made a very valid point over there, "It sounds like you (David in DC) are saying let's abandon debate and all those on one side (i.e. who don't like flags) should now attack pages they don't approve. Is that really how Wikipedia is meant to work?"
That was why I replied at VP, "Yikes, Bermicourt has made a very valid point since policy has not been changed YET through a formal consensus process, not through discussions....{snip}.... I do support the removal of flag icons from most lists on Wikipedia. I only ask that the guideline be changed via consensus so I can defend the removal of flag icons to the other editors -- just linking them to this ongoing discussion does no good."
Makes sense if we wait until the guideline is formally changed before everyone starts to revert and revert. Agreed? Cheers, CalvinTy 14:41, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
I have no experience whatsoever with WP:AFC; however, I'd say that such an article could be nominated for speedy deletion per G11, as that is a criterion that applies to every namespace. That said, I did not delete the page, however, because I'd rather let the AfC people deal with it, since it is nothing that needs to go as soon as possible... Sorry I was not of more help. Cheers. Salvio Let's talk about it! 15:52, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: Timecamp
Hello The Blade of the Northern Lights. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Timecamp, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A7 does not apply to software. Thank you. Salvio Let's talk about it! 21:58, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, I see what happened; I forgot that web-based ≠ web content. Sorry; thanks for cleaning up my mess. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 23:09, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- No probs. It was actually a borderline case...
Salvio Let's talk about it! 02:27, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- No probs. It was actually a borderline case...
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David in DC's misbehavior
Blade, it's going to take some time, but I hope you will eventually come around to see the problem with David in DC's editing style:
1. He makes accusations without gathering facts 2. He colludes with others, buddying up to built support 3. He makes jokes that put down others...not so funny
When I read comments like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:David_in_DC#A_bit_of_fun
This is the height of arrogance on his part. Adults on the 110 Club aren't there to "indoctrinate" others but to serve as mentors and guides. The 110 Club was founded by teenagers. Unlike other clubs discussing supercentenarians, which have monetary gambling on who is going to die next, pictures of supercentenarians as if they were dead, profanity, etc., the 110 Club has been attempting to temper the sometimes-misbehavior that is common to teenagers with adult mentorship. Here's an example of a non-mentored discussion by teens:
I have seen worse.
David in DC needs to apologize, yet again, for yet another insensitive comment that was so off base, it represents a 180-degree turn from reality.Ryoung122 22:40, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
P.S. The teens contacted me regarding their group, asking me to join. Unlike many who focus on just their career, I took time out to serve in a capacity that is leading to respect for supercentenarians and a skeptical sense that Carl Sagan called a "baloney detector." I see nothing wrong with exposing pseudo-supercentenarians as frauds when evidence shows they are.
It should also be pointed out that most of those on the 110 Club and longtime Wikipedia editors (such as Nick Ornstein, Brendan(ology), etc) were in fact Wikipedia editors first, joining the 110 Club as a place to discuss supercentenarians. I'm sending you the message but it is really directed at David in DC. Perhaps you can serve as a liasion and gently coax him to tone down his casting aspersions.
Sincerely
Ryoung122 22:45, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
Reversions without knowledge
You recently reverted text on an article that you didn't even work on claiming it "wasn't objective". How is it possible you would know that without even the slightest knowledge of the subject. I see nothing in the articles talk pages where you have discussed that with other editors and a consensus was reached . We are dealing with a POV pushing editor right now that keeps reverting text and ou aren't participating in the solution to the problem, you are adding to it. Please participate in the articles construction by adding to it rather than adding opinion.98.149.114.34 (talk) 13:43, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Nor do I see where you've gained any consensus. I said I didn't know much about the subject, not that I knew nothing. Now that I look over the talkpage, it's rather filled with venom, and I'm thinking I'll leave this snakepit alone. Be advised, however, thta you're rapidly hitting 3RR. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 13:46, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Oh I understand your tag team with WAID (who reverted twice ) calling you in to continue his edit warring. How its mean't to trick editors into the 3RR. "Venom"?! That is the most ridiculous accusation and clearly states you have no knowledge the discussion at all. Next time, actually read the discussion section, participate if you wish but offing these opinions of that discussion without reading it and reverting without even reading the edits adds nothing to the article at all. Everything in the article was completely sourced and from the same sources WAIDs was from. If you intend to make accusations please post them where someone neutral can decide. 98.149.114.34 (talk) 14:18, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- I have no stake in this article, and I've never really interacted with WhatamIdoing; I'm a 20 year old history major with no vested interest beyond adhering to a neutral point of view. What discussion (if you could call it that) I saw was you railing on a couple other editors, who were telling you to stop inserting BLP violations. I read through and found I agreed with them. You're not going to intimidate me; hopefully someone more experienced than I will drop in. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 16:07, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Intimidate you?! Railing on other editors?! Utter nonsense! I've done no such thing and I challenge you to go to the article talk page and point out anywhere were I have"personally" railed on other editors. Where there is any "venom" . I'm sorry but you haven't read the article or the discussion page and you know nothing about what you have reverted. How exactly does your majoring in history apply to gender dysphoria or sexual identity issues ? Have you read TMWWBQ? No , I'm pretty sure you haven't. You saw no "venom" and I've "railed" on no one. Assuming that this is fabrication I am fairly sure . Please come on the talk page and accuse me. Well, if you aren't too "intimidated". You should know something about the article before you revert, otherwise it's pure vandalism. 98.149.114.34 (talk) 17:53, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- By ranting at me on my talkpage, you're merely making my point for me; this is the sort of acerbic attitude I saw on the talkpage. I haven't read the whole book, no, but I did look through the reviews, which seem to be another point of contention. No, I won't fling around accusations, I don't see how that will be productive. All I want is to straighten the article out; if we can tone down the invective on all sides here, it should be possible. And would you please indent your comments; it's not that hard. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 18:06, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Too late, you've already flung around accusations and worse , you are using them to revert an article you haven't read. Yes, responding is ranting I suppose. Tone down the "invective"? I have no idea what you are talking about because I've said nothing personal. You should actually read discussions/article/book before claim bias and revert. IMO , you haven't and that is vandalism. Discussion over unless you want t argue your points on the article talk page. 98.149.114.34 (talk) 18:18, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Gladly I would, except that real life calls right now, and I likely won't be around for a long while. I did take a look at the version on the talkpage, and it doesn't seem totally unreasonable. If you give me a day or two, I'll finish the book; I will not pretend to be the arbiter of content, but I can at least offer my view up. I honestly can't understand what is so fantastically important about this book that you're drowning each other in reams of text (on all sides; this is in no way your fault alone); I see you've made an offer on the talkpage at getting some 3rd parties involved, and that looks good. I'd suggest that brevity will aid you in that process as well. I'll try to, if not satisfy everyone, at least keep a level head; my main areas of editing involve genocide and repression, so I can handle this. If I do find myself in over my head, I will quietly slip away. But now, I have things to do IRL, so over and out. And by the way, you may not agree with what I did, but it was definitely not vandalism. If you feel the need to revert me, I won't revert again. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 18:29, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Too late, you've already flung around accusations and worse , you are using them to revert an article you haven't read. Yes, responding is ranting I suppose. Tone down the "invective"? I have no idea what you are talking about because I've said nothing personal. You should actually read discussions/article/book before claim bias and revert. IMO , you haven't and that is vandalism. Discussion over unless you want t argue your points on the article talk page. 98.149.114.34 (talk) 18:18, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Challenged CSD on JabStar
Hi, I'm just dropping by to let you know I challenged your A7 CSD on JabStar. In my assessment, the claims that he has over 1500 performances, and has appeared both on television and in media coverage is a sufficient assertion of importance to survive criteria A7. I have replaced the A7 with a prod on notability grounds. Monty845 19:35, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- OK, that's fine; thanks for letting me know. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 20:48, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your comment on my talk page about NPP
Hi BOTNL -- thanks for your comment on my talk page. I actually don't think that NP patrollers are terrible people, and I'm sorry if I've been coming across that way. (I've been wondering.) Essentially --probably like many of us-- I have conflicted and contradictory views on patrolling. First, I think it's essential: if people weren't doing it, we'd be overrun with spam and vandalism and nonsense. Obviously it needs to get done, and it's good that people are willing to do it. My impression is that it's exhausting and thankless, and that patrollers often feel deluged with the sheer volume of crap that gets posted. So I have empathy for that too. On the other hand, I do think that some patrollers probably tend to bias towards false positives -- their goal is to prevent crap from appearing on Wikipedia, and I think they believe that if a few innocents get caught in the crossfire, that's okay. I, though, believe that the cost of false positives is higher than we've historically believed. We know now that the total number of active editors in the Wikimedia projects is slowly declining, that new editors are getting discouraged and quitting faster than ever before. We know that reversions and deletions of edits by new editors have been climbing over time. And when we ask people why they've quit, many of them say they were discouraged by being reverted and deleted and warned. So, I do believe that patrollers need to upwards-prioritize not shooting the nuns and tourists :-) (i.e., good faith newbies). I think in order to do that, patrollers will probably need new tools and mechanisms that support different/new actions such as moving articles (i.e., to incubators) rather than deleting them, giving friendly feedback as well as warnings, etc. etc. etc. I know there are lots of people thinking about / working on this issue, which I think is good. And by the way thank you for the link to the WIHSD essay: I don't think I'd read it before, and I liked it too :-) Sue Gardner (talk) 20:14, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- I hope you don't mind if I jump in on your conversation (I followed it with interest) - but I want to point out one other thing that may be a misunderstanding, but that I think is important. Your positioning of the issues is very "there's the WMF, and then there's US". I think it's really important to remember that a lot of the folks on the community department staff (and the tech staff, and global dev, and almost all of them) are self-identified Wikimedians. I still am a community elected administrator on the English Wikipedia and Meta, and I got my start (check the history on User:Philippe) doing new page patrol and CSD work. I've been there. So has User:Jamesofur, and User:Steven (WMF), and any number of the others. So we get it. Today, I was working on the guiding program some, and it's a struggle to not use templates. The trick is to make better and smarter templates that don't feel like templates, I think. We ran an interesting experiment over the weekend where we asked people (non-Wikimedians) to identify whether a message was left by a bot or a human, and you'd be shocked (or, at least, I was) by the number of them that though the templates were human-written. That's a GOOD thing, it means our prospective new users may think that too. But regardless, my point here is.... please don't think we don't feel your pain. We do. But it's because it's so important that we (and Sue) feel like it's necessary to bring it up -despite that it means the work will get harder. Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 00:55, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- No problem; actually, that's pretty neat. The "us and them" distinction is definitely not as stark as the Pink Floyd song would suggest. A better template design would be good, although that's so far beyond my technical abilities that I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot-pole. I obviously don't want to disparage your work here; you're the ones who keep the WMF running for people like me to use it. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 02:49, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
No problem
Happens to all of us now and then. Have a good night, see you around! Neutralitytalk 05:01, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Regarding speedy deletion of Probation Board for Northern Ireland
Sorry to disturb you but i was wondering why you set the page for speedy deletion? I am new to wiki and i am still learning the process so i accept i will inevitably get things wrong. the reason was under G11 promotional or advertising. PBNI is a public sector agency (government) and was unaware the information would be deemed advertising seeing they do not sell anything.
Regards
Itewhitten (talk) 10:56, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Many thanks for your comments - will try to reconstruct the article in a more appropriate way. Itewhitten (talk) 10:29, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
Kimber James
I find your tone innapropriate. I altered it to a partial filmography highliting notable films and no more than six as the porno guide instructs. I stated the reason for the different picture in the different talk page and no one has reponded to that dialogue. The genital reference i returned as i am going to contrast with other trans porn stars — Preceding unsigned comment added by RafikiSykes (talk • contribs) 01:40, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Anne Scheiber
Anne Scheiber is a famous figure who gained notoriety in the New York area for her actions. Please reconsider the template you put on the article Zobango (talk) 18:21, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Next Time...
...you´d better wait a while before you place speedy deletion requests, as your requests seem speedyer, than the deletion by itself. See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wardwell&action=history . Regards. -- Gary Dee (talk) 20:05, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
PokeHomsar
PokeHomsar is just a troll. He got mad because of the Ray William Johnson deal and the fact that I wouldn't except those terrible articles as references. Every opportunity he has, he make comments towards me even if I say something in the slightest. He has a grudge against me and will say anything because he can't get over it. It's childish. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 20:39, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Vincelord
I wanted to thank you for your recent complements about the recent articles i've created, However i now feel i am being singled out by WikiDan61. Everytime i create a new article he proposes it for deletion and then orders me to stop creating pages, He keeps telling me that the people are not worthy of a page, But i've checked the actor stubs category and there are countless actors with nearly no credits and they have pages. No one eles has an issue with my articles only WikiDan61, I feel i am being unfairly targeted by him, Do you have any advice on what i should be about this situation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vincelord (talk • contribs) 14:02, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
Vincelord
I wanted to thank you for your help with the problem i've been having. But WikiDan61 said, rather bluntly, for me to stop creating pages and i would like to know am i still allowed to put up pages if i think the person is notable, I understand that every actor can't have a page. but it can be hard for me to decide notability when everyone has diffrent views on the matter,I'm concerned if i were to put up another page WikiDan61 or another editor doesn't like, could my account be blocked, I don't want to put up pages that may be deleted, but with so many actor stub pages that are left up, deciding who to give a page to is difficult. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vincelord (talk • contribs) 14:33, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
Hello The Blade of the Northern Lights,
I don't understand what you are requesting speedy deletion for,i hope is not the article i just created concerning the university in Lafia.Please revisit your request so that the new article is not affected.Thanks-yours Earlymen message me! 07:13, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
Good,
But it won't affect my edit count anyway,will it?Earlymen message me! 07:17, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
O.k,but do it in a way it won't affect me much.I will be very greatful.Yours from Nigeria,can i know where you are presently? Thanks Earlymen message me! 07:21, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
I admire you,keep the Wiki flag flying and get yourself some warmers out there since i had that the U.S especially the Northeast is cold.Have a nice time colleague.Earlymen message me! 07:26, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
Serious Wikipedians
Hi, What happens after that new article Rfc ends? What is the process?
Given the comments we have seen on that Rfc, I thought that those who "take Wikipedia seriously" should create a category of some sort. There are all kinds of groups within Wikipedia, so how about a category "Serious Wikipedians"? I see the definition as follows:
- Would like to see a day when all articles on key general encyclopedic topics are fully referenced, error free and of a higher quality than traditional printed encyclopedias. (Key encyclopedic topics are defined as those with articles in two major encyclopedias such as Encyclopædia Britannica, etc.)
- Does not contribute to or endorse articles on trivia such as celebrity rehab visits, obscure and marginally notable living artists or musical groups trying to promote their own album that has sold less than 400 copies, etc.
- Would like to see a day when more experts are invited to contribute to Wikipedia and policies which protect their contributions.
- Would like to see "domain encyclopedias" within Wikipedia, on established academic fields of knowledge such as engineering, science, medicine, history, art, religion and literature.
- Would like to see a day when all articles on domain encyclopedic topics are fully referenced, error free and of a higher quality than traditional printed encyclopedias. (Key encyclopedic topics here are defined as those which appear in two established vertical encyclopedias, e.g. two established medical references.)
- Would like to see more controls over article quality standards and references rather than the creation of marginally notable new articles. This viewpoint considers the 10th anniversary of Wikipedia as a turning point where improving the quality of exiting articles takes precedence over the creation of new ones.
- Would encourage the creation of far more sophisticated bots and semi-automated tools for "content protection" against vandalism and thinly veiled commercial promotion. This viewpoints encourages the creation of integrated, institutional guidelines to complement the volunteer designed protection bots.
What do you think? And how does one go about establishing this project group? History2007 (talk) 20:39, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
- This is a lot to think about and probably should be split into several categories, each with its own page. Most of the points I can agree with wholeheartedly. The idea of topical encyclopedias within the larger encyclopedia strikes me as especially inspired. I'm unsure about the last two points, especially the last one: existing bots could certainly be improved, and new ones created and authorized, but I wonder what sort of semi-automated tools would help to protect content.
- Are you thinking about doing this as a formal WikiProject? Rivertorch (talk) 06:17, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, each subtopic can get a page, but there is a unifying theme to it, namely: "We don't just want more text. We want more quality, we want more reliability". So that theme runs through the seven points of the "manifesto". The existing bots are a good start, but they can go a long way. But you are probably right that it is the most complex of the 7 items, and that was why I listed it last. But I do see the future as bot driven with much better tools against vandals.
- Is the "WikiProject" the vehicle to do this? And the name is....? Wikiproject ...? The project is in some sense "self referential" in that it applies o Wikipedia , not quality control of manufacturing items, etc. So WikiProject Quality would not apply, but WikiProject WikiQuality may. History2007 (talk) 07:24, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
- I have never actually joined any WikiProject, so I'm probably not the best person to ask. Someone at the WikiProject Council might offer some advice. The only thing that occurs to me about naming is that it doesn't have to be called "WikiProject x" to be a WikiProject; I've seen a few that don't have that nomenclature. Incidentally, I'm suddenly wondering why we're having this conversation on TBotNL's talk page. Rivertorch (talk) 17:43, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
- I don't mind it, actually. I've only joined one WikiProject, WikiProject Burma (or whatever the hell it's called now, with the awful naming issues there), although I've been among those trying to revive the stillbirth that is WikiProject World's Oldest People. I like the idea, and I can see it working in the way that WikiProject Spam works, but someone more experienced in these matters should probably have the final say. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:57, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
- I have never actually joined any WikiProject, so I'm probably not the best person to ask. Someone at the WikiProject Council might offer some advice. The only thing that occurs to me about naming is that it doesn't have to be called "WikiProject x" to be a WikiProject; I've seen a few that don't have that nomenclature. Incidentally, I'm suddenly wondering why we're having this conversation on TBotNL's talk page. Rivertorch (talk) 17:43, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
- Given the info that Spam was a project, I read the pages on projects based on the links you guys provided and it was straightforward to start Wikipedia:WikiProject_Wikipedia_reliability now that we have 3 people. Please feel free to add your names there, so we get some initial momentum. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 19:08, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
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- I like most of the points you've stated, especially #2. I think the largest obstacle to wikipedia becoming a serious and trusted information source is the perception among people that do not know the wikipedia community well that we obsess over minutae of family guy episodes but ignore serious historical events and topics related to the hard sciences.
- As a side note I think the greatest problem among people that DO know the Wikipedia community is the fact we can devote megabytes of text to arguing over whether to use british or american spelling of gasoline/petrol/benzin/fossil fuel long-chain hydrocarbons for propelling a vehicle or an em dash versus a hyphen and end up with wild inconsistencies across articles. I would like to see that as another point for "serious wikipedians." I think a huge obstacle to being a serious encyclopedia as opposed to a community experiment that has a compilation of pop culture references is that on matters where consensus is not clear chaos reigns because there is no arbiter. A real encyclopedia has an editor that for better or worse edits things according to consistent style guidelines. I think for the sake of stability and sanity and a professional appearance we need to force articles to uniformity in some cases and where consensus is impossible to obtain there has to be a foundation caveat. HominidMachinae (talk) 03:51, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- I came here to improve the coverage of conventional academic topics, but by the classification proposed here, I guess I'm non-serious. The strength of Wikipedia is in the wide overage of popular culture topics, and we should not denigrate that area, but work instead to bring the other areas also up to a more complete status. For all areas, including popular culture, the quality of the articles is valuable , and appropriate referencing is needed. A more rigorous approach to popular culture is also needed--the substantial published (and usually academic) work in the field is largely ignored, just as it is in many other topics of general interest. I'm not sure it's a higher priority than creating news articles--I think most of the people here work equally on both aspects; I consider them complementary. What is the highest priority is attracting new editors--most people stay only for a few years, and our survival depends upon their replacement. Therefore, whatever they want to work on is good: the need is to get more people started. DGG' ( talk ) 19:21, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
Vincelord
I have a question for you on references, recently i made comments on actors Phil Carey and Hume Cronyn that i feel were important and i even listed a book that i used as a reference, yet both comments were removed and i wasn't told why. Is a book a good enoungh reference for me to use or do i have to use something else. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vincelord (talk • contribs) 16:41, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Better UAA call than you seem to realize
re User:Slashbslashollocks: you do realize that it spells "bollocks", as well, I hope. Daniel Case (talk) 02:04, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, I got that a few minutes after I reported it. Serendipity is nice, when it works in my favor. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 02:07, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
FYI
FYI: Template_talk:Did_you_know#Wiki-Watch should go on the front page in a week or two, then reliability will get some attention. I am yet to expand the project items but will do so in a day or two. History2007 (talk) 01:18, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Thank you
Thank you for your kind welcome. GoldCreek GoldCreek (talk) 00:37, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Saturdayloo
Could you explain why you requested a speedy deletion of Nicholas Holthaus within seconds of posting. You deleted it before I could vet his films with proper accreditation and sourcing. Holthaus is widely accredited by newspapers and imbd, among others. He is an established film maker.
A template you may find useful
When a new editor starts an article and fails to add sourcing, you can help by adding {{Welcomeunsourced}} to their talk page. This is frequently more effective than merely tagging the article with {{unsourced}}. KillerChihuahua?!?Advice 17:39, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- Because we're required to have sources for BLPs, I BLPPROD them on sight; for non-BLPs, I will take that approach. Thanks for the advice. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:41, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- Remember that without contributors, there is no encyclopedia at all. Encourage new users to learn how to write articles correctly! You can BLPPROD and put a welcome notice on the author's talk page. The two are not mutually exclusive. :-) KillerChihuahua?!?Advice 17:44, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- Makes sense to me; always nice to find new ways to help newbies. Seems like a good solution. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:47, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- Remember that without contributors, there is no encyclopedia at all. Encourage new users to learn how to write articles correctly! You can BLPPROD and put a welcome notice on the author's talk page. The two are not mutually exclusive. :-) KillerChihuahua?!?Advice 17:44, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Reworking ELNO on Official Links
Hi,
As an editor who was involved with the recent ELNO discussion, "Spam links becoming standard practice,"[1] I am inviting you to comment on the proposal to rework the definition of "Official Link".[2]
Regards, ELNO Checking (talk) 17:57, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
RfA
Thanks, Blade. If I remember correctly, you and I weren't on the exact same wavelength in that whole Mel Gibson/Robert Mugabe free-for-all, at least not initially, but I appreciate your comment. Have you seen this, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Mindbunny.27s_comments_on_biographies_of_living_persons? Drmies (talk) 02:58, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
- Oh no, not more. I've washed my hands of this problem; if you look at Mindbunny's talkpage you'll see I tried to talk some sense into him, but it doesn't seem to have worked. I'm somewhere between you and Mindbunny on this issue (probably somewhat closer to your view), but his reaction to this is neither constructive nor particularly helpful. His comment and above request strike me as rather pointy, which is what made the situation worse for him in the first place. I'll drop in to support your RfA sometime tomorrow, by the way; I've been meaning to. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:04, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, more. Also, a thread at ANI for the fuckheads (I'm quoting). In fact I just read your comments on their page: thank you for trying. Sometimes such efforts are successful, sometimes they're not, and I hope it wasn't a waste of your time. But the amount of wikilawyering, and the statements about our corrupt admin corps--from someone with a couple of hundred edits. No wonder SlimVirgin suspected a sock. I have no experience with that suspected master, so I can't judge that, but it is true that many socks have such axes to grind. Anyway, I appreciate your note. Take it easy Blade! Drmies (talk) 03:14, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
- No, it was worth is. Failures are just as much learning experiences as successes, and I can't get too hung up on it. Now that I look at WP:Requests for comment/Noloop, I think SlimVirgin is onto something, and Mindbunny's followup comment confirms it for me. Anyways, I've now dropped my support at your RfA, and I hope I'm not the last. Have a good one!! The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 15:51, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, more. Also, a thread at ANI for the fuckheads (I'm quoting). In fact I just read your comments on their page: thank you for trying. Sometimes such efforts are successful, sometimes they're not, and I hope it wasn't a waste of your time. But the amount of wikilawyering, and the statements about our corrupt admin corps--from someone with a couple of hundred edits. No wonder SlimVirgin suspected a sock. I have no experience with that suspected master, so I can't judge that, but it is true that many socks have such axes to grind. Anyway, I appreciate your note. Take it easy Blade! Drmies (talk) 03:14, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
I don't believe this...
Yeah, that's him, the little SOB. Thank God for BSadowski1. Bumblerfan apparently didn't get the message when his school lowered the boom on his sorry @$$ last year. PMDrive1061 (talk) 05:05, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi BNL. This has now been closed with a consensus that I hoped for and anticpated. I would like to think that the 7 months of work that Snottywong and I put into researching the problems associated with NPP carried something towards the discussion, and I would like to thank you personally for having started a debate that has led to one of the most important milestones in the evolution of the Wikipedia. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:35, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. Yes, your research was very helpful in affirming my support for my own idea. I hope this works out, because if it fails I'll look like a complete idiot. And when you talk about "the majority of NPPers", when it comes to the accuracy rate I'd like to think I'm one of the exceptions to the rule. Of late, I've been watching the new user log to clean out some of the userpage spam (which is another job we'll need more people for when this is implemented), but I've been thinking about getting back to NPP again and working more at AfC. I'm looking forward to it. Thanks again. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 23:18, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
- Your intensive work on NPP was essential because it has proven that under normal circumstances there is an unacceptable backlog which was causing thousands of totally unverified articles to enter unnoticed into the encyclopedia. It's taken a while after your effort, but the backlog has now reached 30+ days again, and Snottywong has restarted his bot. My personal effort meanwhile has been to patrol the patrollers and to educate them as nicely as possible. This has become even more critical since I got the mop and do actual deletions at CSD and PROD. I am now looking forward to some rapid intervention to get the 'autoconfirmed only' trial implemented and would be pleased to be of assistance in preparing a draft for the proposal which as far as I understand from the closing summary, only confirms setting the duration of the trial. Any peripheral suggestions such as improvements to the Wizard, and eventually making all new articles pass through it, will be subject of course to new discussions. Please keep me up to date, and thank you again for all your hard work. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:54, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
Don't destroy my work : the "Agnes Obel concerts" wiki article is useful ! Instead, see, for instance, wiki articles such as : "Owl City concert tours", "Jamiroquai concerts", "Rolling Stones concerts"...
Lurulu (talk) 20:45, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
I'm afraid you are travelling down a well worn path here with Lurulu's lists of gigs and icon decoration. All the problems with them have been explained before. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 01:28, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
Talkback
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Autoconf only to make NP
While you're online, let me grab your attention for a bit: What's happening on this right now? I've searched everywhere but I can't see an RfC proposal launched already to fix the duration of the trial. Once the proposal for the trial duration is started, the devs can start preparing the software tweaks and drafts for rewording policy and guidline pages can begin. Because this is all basically the fruit of yours, Snotty's and my bickering about NPP for momnths, I would be more than willing to work on any aspects of getting this ready. Thoughts? --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:40, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- Hmmm... I don't see anything either. The closure mentioned something like 3-6 months, followed by 1-3 months of switching back to business as usual. If we go that route, I'd like 6 months, but 4 is also OK. The alternative is to run it until we get a consensus against doing it, which is how the PC fiasco should have been set up all along and which I would favor. However, I suspect that approach won't curry much favor with the detractors, so I'd shoot for #2 and expect #1. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 04:06, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- I think the summary was in favour of a fixed period rather than an open ended trial. Main thing is we have a clear go-ahead for the trial, and like you, I would go for six and accept 4. Most of the opposition was driven by emotion rather than pragmatic argument, and I see this trial, now accepted, as being quickly implemented. Shall we try and get this duration proposal thing drafted? Or should we consider looking at the wording of the policy, guildeline, and software interface pages first so that things can go ahead even more quickly. (This was pretty much how I helped bring the massive BLPPROD saga to a quick conclusion). --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:48, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- I was going to say, you probably have a better idea of what to do than I, but I think we should get everything set up before we figure out the fine print. We can get whatever consensus we like, but until we have what we need to implement it we're stuck where we are now. I think it'll be easier to come to a consensus if people can see what it will look like, so it won't be just a shot in the dark. I agree the support rationales were more evidence-based, and I think/hope this can be put in place quickly. Just my thoughts, though. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 05:01, 29 May 2011 (UTC) And as an unrelated aside; I hope I haven't sunk any chance at a future RfA by starting this. Not that I was planning to go anytime soon, but it's in the back of my mind. Then again, CSD work doesn't seem to curry much favor to begin with; we really are the most hated people around sometimes.
- I guessed you'd say that and I agree, and I have already been working on rephrasing all the instruction, policy, and guideline pages to have them ready. There are also a lot of templates and uw to be fixed as well. In the meantime, please have a look at this. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:18, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- I was going to say, you probably have a better idea of what to do than I, but I think we should get everything set up before we figure out the fine print. We can get whatever consensus we like, but until we have what we need to implement it we're stuck where we are now. I think it'll be easier to come to a consensus if people can see what it will look like, so it won't be just a shot in the dark. I agree the support rationales were more evidence-based, and I think/hope this can be put in place quickly. Just my thoughts, though. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 05:01, 29 May 2011 (UTC) And as an unrelated aside; I hope I haven't sunk any chance at a future RfA by starting this. Not that I was planning to go anytime soon, but it's in the back of my mind. Then again, CSD work doesn't seem to curry much favor to begin with; we really are the most hated people around sometimes.
- I think the summary was in favour of a fixed period rather than an open ended trial. Main thing is we have a clear go-ahead for the trial, and like you, I would go for six and accept 4. Most of the opposition was driven by emotion rather than pragmatic argument, and I see this trial, now accepted, as being quickly implemented. Shall we try and get this duration proposal thing drafted? Or should we consider looking at the wording of the policy, guildeline, and software interface pages first so that things can go ahead even more quickly. (This was pretty much how I helped bring the massive BLPPROD saga to a quick conclusion). --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:48, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- The matter has been taken out of my hands. The page was move-deleted from my user space by an admin without my assent. I'm not going to make a fuss about it, but the trial project now needs to be watched very carefully - I don't want your, Sotty's, and my work to have been in vain. Your RfC motion passed with flying colours and should not be required to face any further challenges, or need to wait for decisions on other matters that were not part of consensus and which it's implementation does not depend upon. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:18, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- I've got my eye on it, and hopefully it doesn't devolve from what I had thought. I did some NPP yesterday, and it only confirmed the desperate need for change. I don't want this to get hijacked either. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 01:49, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- I did some more over the last 48 hours too. I've mailed you. I've probably gently warned more patrollers again than tagged articles. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:12, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- I've got my eye on it, and hopefully it doesn't devolve from what I had thought. I did some NPP yesterday, and it only confirmed the desperate need for change. I don't want this to get hijacked either. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 01:49, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- The matter has been taken out of my hands. The page was move-deleted from my user space by an admin without my assent. I'm not going to make a fuss about it, but the trial project now needs to be watched very carefully - I don't want your, Sotty's, and my work to have been in vain. Your RfC motion passed with flying colours and should not be required to face any further challenges, or need to wait for decisions on other matters that were not part of consensus and which it's implementation does not depend upon. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:18, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
This is a good sign (Neptune)
Hi, see my talk page, I tried a psychological post on her talk page (push-me pull-you if that makes any sense), it seems to have garnered a reaction, I'll mentor too if she wishes, definitely needs a different approach, I'm glad to find the WP community so big-hearted (because in places there are some real stinkers). CaptainScreebo Parley! 21:56, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. I hope everything works out for everyone. I've worked with a lot of people with various AS disorders, so hopefully I can help. Any assistance from you is more than welcome. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 22:00, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Hey, go fuck yourself you Jap-talking sonofabitch, who the fuck do you think you're talking too?Sorry, couldn't resist it, love your box at the top: your comments are a pile of shit (WP:SPADE) is not a personal attack but an opinion on the content, I see this type of argument posted all over the place, wow, well done.
- As for Neptune, well, everyone seems to be rooting for her so I am so pleased that she actually replied. Let's go! (hopefully) CaptainScreebo Parley! 22:11, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- No worries; User:Timneu22 used to do that sort of thing all the time, I found it rather amusing. I guess it's go time. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 22:23, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- Ha-ha! (you actually looked didn't you?) CaptainScreebo Parley! 22:32, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- I left her a note on her talkpage; if you'd like to read it over and hit on anything I missed, that'd be great. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 05:06, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- Hi Blade, I haven't given up on you or Neptune, just a bit busy IRL with gardening and have a boot/yard sale this weekend. I do have some suggestions which I will post over at her talk (if she hasn't blanked the page yet) and I'll probably e-mail you too. Seems that the old adage patience is a virtue comes into its own here ;-) CaptainScreebo Parley! 19:55, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 19:57, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hi Blade, I haven't given up on you or Neptune, just a bit busy IRL with gardening and have a boot/yard sale this weekend. I do have some suggestions which I will post over at her talk (if she hasn't blanked the page yet) and I'll probably e-mail you too. Seems that the old adage patience is a virtue comes into its own here ;-) CaptainScreebo Parley! 19:55, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
- I left her a note on her talkpage; if you'd like to read it over and hit on anything I missed, that'd be great. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 05:06, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- Ha-ha! (you actually looked didn't you?) CaptainScreebo Parley! 22:32, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- No worries; User:Timneu22 used to do that sort of thing all the time, I found it rather amusing. I guess it's go time. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 22:23, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- As for Neptune, well, everyone seems to be rooting for her so I am so pleased that she actually replied. Let's go! (hopefully) CaptainScreebo Parley! 22:11, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
I choose you
I want you to help me. I want to assume good faith. Thank you for wanting to help me! Neptunekh2 (talk) 22:46, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- Good. I'll be more than happy to work with you on whatever you'd like. Most of my content work here revolves around Ainu and Burmese history, but I've read a lot about Nunavut and related topics. I think we'll both enjoy this. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 22:51, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
There is a reference I would like you to add
On the [[Sally Carr] page it says Carr married journalist Chick Young. They had a son in 1980 but they separated in 1984, although Carr has not divorced Young and they remain friends. On the Chick Young page needs some reference and I thought you could add this one:http://www.retrosellers.com/features172.htm Also can you wikify or clean up the Chick Young article. It seems like a short article and needs to be expanded. Neptunekh2 (talk)`
- Working on the Chick Young article now; I'm from New England, so my knowledge of the BBC people is somewhat limited, but I'll do what I can. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 23:18, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
You're from New England
What State are you from? New Jersey? Neptunekh2 (talk) 23:49, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
- Connecticut; I'm about 1 1/2 hours from New York City. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 01:01, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
What City in Connecticut do you live in
What City in Connecticut do you live in? And have you been to the north as your name suggests? Neptunekh2 (talk) 01:22, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- Shrank down header I'm from right outside Bridgeport; haven't been up north yet, but one of my goals in life is to see Rush in their home country, so hopefully soon. I've worked a bit on the Chick Young article, but I've had some connection issues that won't be resolved until tomorrow (for some reason, I can't open more than two windows at a time); someone else is chewing up a giant chunk of bandwidth on my network, but it's a start. I added in another ref, I'd like you to take a look and see if there's anything you can add. If you have issues with the formatting, just do what you can and I'll (try) to fix it. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 01:28, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Would you mind fixing the article about Inuit artist Looty_Pijamini? The article needs some work. Neptunekh2 (talk) 02:14, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
話して下さい
Just saw this and wanted to say hi!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 15:23, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- No problem; I was wondering if someone would notice. I do some work in Japanese/Ainu topics, and I figured it would look nice. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 15:25, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Some Articles that need work
Hi! I created 2 article about a city in Sierra_leone called Ballowharf and a mountain in Peru called Pitusiray. Both articles need work on them and this section of this article needs to expanded: List_of_The_Mummy_characters#The_Scorpion_King_2:_Rise_of_a_Warrior Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 23:39, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- Neptunekh, you also posted the same request at helpdesk [3] and when Hoary asked you not to do that[4], you posted the same request on his talkpage [5]. You have got to stop doing this. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 11:47, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
- Also posted to Captain Screebo's talkpage [6]. Neptune, just make yourself a big notice that says "I will only post requests for help once." --Elen of the Roads (talk) 15:50, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Should I leave Wikipedia
Should I leave Wikipedia? I sometimes feel if I only post a request once it never gets answered. But I will only post a request once for now on. But how quickly can you respond to requests? I will leave if you want me too. Neptunekh2 (talk) 17:44, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Three questions a day
Can I ask you three questions a day and that's it? I can wait 48 hours for each hour. Neptunekh2 (talk) 18:27, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
2 quick questions
1. The article that I created called Martyn_Godfrey needs some work. Can you fix it? 2. Blades I hope you won't be offend but I'm wondering are you a man or a woman? Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 00:09, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
- Not a problem; I'm a man. As to Martyn Godfrey; I'll have some time in an hour or two, so yes, I think I can help you. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 00:20, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
- There's a pile of references on the talkpage from when I rescued it from deletion, but I never got round to the article. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 16:09, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
- I just took a brief crack at it; I'll go through those, but I think I've established notability here, so it shouldn't be a problem. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 16:11, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
- There's a pile of references on the talkpage from when I rescued it from deletion, but I never got round to the article. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 16:09, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
A few things to work on
Hi Blades. I'm asking you my few questions for the day: 1. Can you please find a reference for Eli Wallach saying he is of Polish descent? According to Internet_Movie_Database and this link: http://www.nndb.com/people/735/000022669/ He is of polish descent but those links aren't reliable sources. 2. Should the person called Anne-Marie_Goumba go under the category Category:Rwandan_immigrants_to_Central_Africa_Republic since the article says she was born in Rwanda and now lives in the Central_Africa_Republic country? Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 04:32, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
- To question 2; yes, that seems like a perfect category, as the CAR seems to be Anne-Marie's country of residence now. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 04:37, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
- And question one seems to be resolved by this. I'll add it in now. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 04:39, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
さて、話してみよう
Blade, I like what you put at the top of this page.
Erm, you write <font face="MS Mincho" color="black">話して下さい</font>, but my system lacks MS Mincho and the display is distinctly cheesy -- far worse than with no font specification. -- ホーリ (しゃべり) 03:13, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- You can see User talk:DoubleJayTheGreat for what it looked like before I kicked over to this font (and before I realized why I shouldn't change my preferences late at night; forgot my te-forms for a moment there); Ms Mincho is what my Windows 2007 defaults to. I didn't realize it doesn't display properly, though; I'll see what, if anything, I'll do about it. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:18, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- Well, there you are. A Windows machine is likely to use MS Mincho when it sees kana; a Mac OS X machine will do so (but why not let it use a different font, likely to be just as good if not better?), while a Linux machine will be unnecessarily nudged into using a font that looks like intercoursing ordure whoops sorry I didn't mean to say that. Yes, on this machine, your sig looks better within User talk:DoubleJayTheGreat. ¶ But let's not take this all too seriously. Light relief: this is the (non-) news story that has most delighted me during the last 24 hours. Yes, you too can vote! -- Hoary (talk) 03:41, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- You have just officially made my evening. ;) The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:42, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- Well, there you are. A Windows machine is likely to use MS Mincho when it sees kana; a Mac OS X machine will do so (but why not let it use a different font, likely to be just as good if not better?), while a Linux machine will be unnecessarily nudged into using a font that looks like intercoursing ordure whoops sorry I didn't mean to say that. Yes, on this machine, your sig looks better within User talk:DoubleJayTheGreat. ¶ But let's not take this all too seriously. Light relief: this is the (non-) news story that has most delighted me during the last 24 hours. Yes, you too can vote! -- Hoary (talk) 03:41, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
A few things to mention
1. Would you mind adding a source for Scottish author page called Alexander_mccall_smith that his book The Great Cake Mystery is being released in 2012? The only source I found for it was this: http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/m/alexander-mccall-smith/great-cake-mystery.htm 2. Can you find a source for actress Alexandra Powers being into Scientology being married to Canadian Gavin Potter. I only found this source: http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/a/alexandra-powers.html 3. Can you send me a postcard from Connecticut if I gave you my address? Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 06:00, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- 1 and 2 shouldn't be a problem, provided my connection holds out. 3 is fine as well, although I'd suggest you do that by e-mail; I've got e-mail enabled. I check it regularly. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:44, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
1. Would you mind fixing the reference I added on the page called about an inuit called Joseph_Idlout? 2. I think you should at the Alexandra Powers because it needs for references. She is possibly into Scientology. What is your e-mail address? Neptunekh2 (talk) 13:19, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'll keep searching; I haven't found anything yet, but that doesn't mean it isn't there. To e-mail me, you can click the "E-mail this user" button in the toolbox on the sidebar. If you have any issues with that, let me know. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 14:50, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
The article with List_of_The_Mummy_characters with The_Scorpion_King_2:_Rise_of_a_Warrior characters needs to be expanded. Can you please expand that? You can use this wiki as a guide: http://mummy.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity Thanks!Neptunekh2 (talk) 21:45, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
My RfA
I just wanted to take a minute to thank you very much for supporting me in my recent RfA. Even though it was unsuccessful, I appreciate your trust. With much gratitude, jsfouche ☽☾Talk 02:27, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the update
I just weighed in at the ANI. I tell you, I've just about reached my limit between chronic sockpuppeteers, chronic vandals and most recently, a user with a clear COI issue flying off the handle over a copyvio. Thanks for letting me know what was going on. You and Anna each deserve praise beyond a simple Barnstar. PMDrive1061 (talk) 17:19, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Spanish Civil War lists
Thanks for asking for my opinion :) I basically agree with you - in cases of wars and battles, the most significant point to be made is who was fighting on which side. Since nations themselves didn't really take sides in an official capacity as far as I know, it doesn't really matter where the soldiers came from, only whose side they were on. The soldiers' nationalities are mentioned anyway in the articles I've looked at, and no further emphasis is required. So I'd go with your interpretation of not emphasising nationality without good reason, and if anyone objects, then a "good reason" needs to be supplied. Let me know if there's any debate, as I don't have those articles on my watchlist - there seems to be quite a few! Bretonbanquet (talk) 21:51, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
The Map for google earth
1. Can you send me the link for the map of google earth? 2. Also can you expand List_of_The_Mummy_characters#The_Scorpion_King_2:_Rise_of_a_Warrior? I did ask you that a couple of days ago. 3. Can you find a reference for Milla_Jovovich saying what nationality she is? Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 23:48, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- If you read the article, there's a reference where she describes herself as Ukrainian (its towards the end of the article), which is where her family come from and where she was born. She also holds US citizenship. What nationality does that make her? --Elen of the Roads (talk) 00:01, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- It makes her nationality confused, is what it does. This is why FLAGBIO is very rigid, and why I recently had to get AWB access to remove the giant amounts of flag icons from longevity lists. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 00:33, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- Quite. I think a lot of the time it's safer not to say anything, particularly in a userbox where you can't provide any context. Elen of the Roads (talk) 20:32, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- It makes her nationality confused, is what it does. This is why FLAGBIO is very rigid, and why I recently had to get AWB access to remove the giant amounts of flag icons from longevity lists. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 00:33, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
An article about a craver named Dale_Campbell needs some work. Also I started an article called Atlin_Gold_Rush. Could you add to the article? Neptunekh2 (talk) 03:43, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'll take a shot at it sometime tomorrow; real life has suddenly called. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:46, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
I've declined your A7 as I don't think it fits. It doesn't seem to be a company. I suggest prod or AfD as I can't find a CSD category that DOES fit... Peridon (talk) 21:57, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Can you work on the Dale_Campbell article today please? Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 03:47, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Blade, please see [7] in response to a post on my talkpage by Neptune. Can you offer her any advice? --Elen of the Roads (talk) 20:30, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, give me a few minutes IRL and I'll try. The tough part will be getting the message across without being harsh. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 22:40, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
There still seems to be a software glitch. If you have a moment please check back in the talk page to how we covered this before. I have sent Snottywong the same message but I believe he is very busy in RL at the moment. Thanks. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:49, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Nova Rex
I think this is actually a band, not a person and they might actually be notable (re a google search). On the other hand, the user name is a bit suspicious. Still, would you mind if I deleted the CSD and tagged with multiple problems and then prod'd it for notability? Noformation Talk 03:12, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- I hear you on that brother. So it's all done now, if the prod is contested and the user doesn't cleanup I'll probably retag the speedy. The user name was reported though so it's possibly they may just delete the article for that. Noformation Talk 03:22, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Workshop
I thought you'd just like to know that admin User:Rd232 has just blocked himself for a month. Perhaps we now have free rein to start a new, reasonable proposal or to do it through a workshop as I have suggested. Something has to move now before before the consensus is 'lost' for lack of interest. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:43, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. We can't really have something like this in someone's userspace if they can't respond now. I'm not sure what exactly we should call it, but just about anything will be an improvement. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 04:54, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- I suggest adding a proposal to the talk page of the discussion where the consensus was reached. keeping it simple on the lines of my original proposal. We can quickly draft this up in either your or my userspace and then paste it there. we could add a short notice about it on the VP (technical, because it's about implementation). What do you thinK? Perhaps discuss the ideas with Jayron too. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:59, 13 June 2011 (UTC). PS/ perhaps also get Snottywong's input on it too.
- Seems like a plan. The original proposal is still buried in the history of User:Rd232/RfC for trial (draft phase), and we can just restart that and make whatever modifications we need to it. Hopefully the talkpage there and a WP:VPT note there will attract a few, and only a few, people. And of course Snottywong's input would be excellent. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 05:06, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- Found it. I would suggest keeping the intro, and then:
- Within the framework of the recommendations made in the closing discussion summary:
- To operate the trial for a period of 6 (six) months during which the holders of registered accounts may not create pages in article mainspace until their account has reached autoconfirmed status
- Statistics should be be extrapolated in table and graph form over the preceding six months to show: The number of new articles created by non autoconfirmed editors; The number of new articles created by non autoconfirmed editors that were subsequently deleted by CSD, PROD, BLPPROD, and AfD; The number of those new editors who have not edited since their article was deleted; the number of those new editors of deleted articles who are still making constructive edits. The number of those new editors who have been blocked for disruptive editing/recreation of deleted articles, trolling, and vandalism.
- Repeat the statistics for the six months of the trial, and create overlapping comparison graphs.
- Take into account the general decline in submission of new articles as shown on the graph at File:Enwikipediapercgrowth.PNG.
- After six months of trial, to stop the trial for a period of 30 (thirty) days for evaluation, before reinstalling the restriction as a long-term feature of en.Wikipedia.
- Periods of six months are required in order to compensate for seasonal changes, for example the nonsense articles created by students from their school's computers during term time, possible drops in other creations during vacation periods, and major election campaigns (candidate promotion).
- Found it. I would suggest keeping the intro, and then:
- Seems like a plan. The original proposal is still buried in the history of User:Rd232/RfC for trial (draft phase), and we can just restart that and make whatever modifications we need to it. Hopefully the talkpage there and a WP:VPT note there will attract a few, and only a few, people. And of course Snottywong's input would be excellent. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 05:06, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- I suggest adding a proposal to the talk page of the discussion where the consensus was reached. keeping it simple on the lines of my original proposal. We can quickly draft this up in either your or my userspace and then paste it there. we could add a short notice about it on the VP (technical, because it's about implementation). What do you thinK? Perhaps discuss the ideas with Jayron too. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:59, 13 June 2011 (UTC). PS/ perhaps also get Snottywong's input on it too.
- I think that should do it. I see no reason at all for anything more complicated. I am fully convinced that any collateral damage, such as the loss of potential new regular contributors, is more than adequately offset by not only preventing the 80% thoroughly inappropriate articles that are deleted anyway (either summarily by a patrolling admin or through CSD template by an NP editor), but also in a severe reduction in the number of articles that escape NPPers' attention and slip unnoticed into the Wikipedia where they can stay for a very long time, even years, before they come to light. The huge backlog of unsourced and poorly sourced BLPs is just one example of poor patrolling. There's nothing much we can do about the flood of poorly written articles from Asia - they are problematic, but many of them survive after a cleanup.
Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:57, 13 June 2011 (UTC)- So you've noticed the increasing number of India and Pakistan articles in horrifically mangled English too. My favorite is still Who was the first lady judge of punjab and haryana high court at chandigarh, which I had to add to WP:DAFT; it's titles like that which make me want to have a "move with suppressed redirect" userright, as detailed at the top of WP:VPR. To the matter at hand, though, I think the above is about what I was looking for. In going through your RfA, my comment to Salih is rather unfortunately true; it's that mentality we need to snap NPP out of, and this is the only feasible way to do it. Simplicity is key here, and I think the above is perfect. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 06:30, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- Salith's comments at my RfA were correct in one context: his supposition, but wrong in the implementation of PROD policy and how I went about it before, and since I got the mop. If the truth were known; I'm a terribly slow tagger, because not only do I go through the steps that I helped design at WP:NPP, but my other, and main agenda, is to get some empirical experience about how bad the system really is - and I'm still doing it. I leave a lot of new pages for others to tag, and I CSD a lot for other admins to actually delete, as people like Boing will confirm. That way, at least a deletion gets carried by the opinion of two admins. I'm not really interested in doing NPP myself, it's a thankless task and it's the quickest way to get rude messages on one's talk page. OK, so on the trial, let's wait until wee get some feedback at least from Beeb, Snotty, and Jayron, then hang the discussion on to the original RfC talk page an a brief note at the VP. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:14, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, I keep saying 'Jayron' but that's not the guy's name is it? Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:50, 13 June 2011 (UTC) Gottit: User:Jayron32.
- Salith's comments at my RfA were correct in one context: his supposition, but wrong in the implementation of PROD policy and how I went about it before, and since I got the mop. If the truth were known; I'm a terribly slow tagger, because not only do I go through the steps that I helped design at WP:NPP, but my other, and main agenda, is to get some empirical experience about how bad the system really is - and I'm still doing it. I leave a lot of new pages for others to tag, and I CSD a lot for other admins to actually delete, as people like Boing will confirm. That way, at least a deletion gets carried by the opinion of two admins. I'm not really interested in doing NPP myself, it's a thankless task and it's the quickest way to get rude messages on one's talk page. OK, so on the trial, let's wait until wee get some feedback at least from Beeb, Snotty, and Jayron, then hang the discussion on to the original RfC talk page an a brief note at the VP. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:14, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- So you've noticed the increasing number of India and Pakistan articles in horrifically mangled English too. My favorite is still Who was the first lady judge of punjab and haryana high court at chandigarh, which I had to add to WP:DAFT; it's titles like that which make me want to have a "move with suppressed redirect" userright, as detailed at the top of WP:VPR. To the matter at hand, though, I think the above is about what I was looking for. In going through your RfA, my comment to Salih is rather unfortunately true; it's that mentality we need to snap NPP out of, and this is the only feasible way to do it. Simplicity is key here, and I think the above is perfect. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 06:30, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- I think that should do it. I see no reason at all for anything more complicated. I am fully convinced that any collateral damage, such as the loss of potential new regular contributors, is more than adequately offset by not only preventing the 80% thoroughly inappropriate articles that are deleted anyway (either summarily by a patrolling admin or through CSD template by an NP editor), but also in a severe reduction in the number of articles that escape NPPers' attention and slip unnoticed into the Wikipedia where they can stay for a very long time, even years, before they come to light. The huge backlog of unsourced and poorly sourced BLPs is just one example of poor patrolling. There's nothing much we can do about the flood of poorly written articles from Asia - they are problematic, but many of them survive after a cleanup.
- I think Kudpung's plan sounds workable and needs to be enacted ASAP. The longer we debate the color of the bikeshed the less impetus there will be to get this going. Lets enact the restriction, start collecting data as we go along, and at the same time work on analyzing the data from the prior 6 months. More delays = more bad. --Jayron32 17:30, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- I concur; stuff like this is getting old real fast, and debating the color of the bikeshed, as you say above, isn't getting us anywhere. Let's get this going. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:34, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'm still concerned about the content of this particular draft, not only, but also because it is taking place in a blocked user's space and who is clearly not available for further comment for another month. There are comments and suggestions added as recently as 11 days ago and contributors may feel that their suggestions may not have been evaluated. Nevertheless, it's turning into another interminable discussion of the very kind that needs to be avoided, and it appears as if the contributors come mainly from those who opposed the original motion. I'm not sure how to proceed here, but naturally I want this thing to be implemented as was agreed by consensus. The data that is required in my suggestion above is IMHO perfectly adequate, taking into account the variables that can only ever be grey areas that are subject to so many different influences. Technical implementation can be worked out later, but we could start gathering the stats right now. Please see this. Thoughts please. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:58, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Go with Kudpung's sandbox wording as being more comprehensive. I have amended slightly, as the purpose of the trial and evaluation is to decide if this should be implemented after the trial, and that needs to be made clear. Also, I added the question as to who and how the outcome is decided. I suggest creating a page for the proposed wording, and inviting opinions on WP:CENT. Making it clear that it has been decided to implement the trial, and it is the mechanics of how to implement it that needs discussion and agreement. So make a page which describes how the trial is to be implemented and point discussion to the talkpage. SilkTork *Tea time 13:42, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'm finding it difficult to find solutions for providing stats. I've put several feelers out and the response ranges from 'maybe you'll have to do it yourself' to 'This request is too complex' and 'make a request at toolserver'. (which I know nothing about). There's also this that I stumbled on. Assuming good faith, it's natural also to assume that anyone who is/was opposed to the change will not wish to be involved. Perhaps the WMF should be asked directly, but who? Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:25, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'm back from my extended exile... I can try to compile some of these stats this week, perhaps as early as tomorrow. I'll let you know. It may not be possible for me to compile some of the stats requested above (for instance, number of articles created by non-autoconfirmed users which were later deleted), since that information is only available to admins, a user right with which I apparently can't be trusted. I'll dig around and see if there is any way to access that information via the toolserver database. —SW— talk 16:17, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
- SW: I've left a message on your tp. The revised list of stats is here. I know nothing about using the database, but if my admin access can help in any way, please let me know. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 18:50, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
- There are also some suggestions here. I think I have addressed most of the points, but it might be as well to check. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 18:59, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'm basically on board with your alternate proposal here; it should get things done while quelling some of the teeth-gnashing typical of these RfCs. Sorry I've been so apathetic here; RL caught up with me for a while, but I think the worst of it is over. I think we definitely want to get this on no later than July 1st. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 00:44, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
- It's my turn to be lazy - I missed the reply above. We have several ways of doing this: Moving the current discussion from the blocked user's user space to Wikipedia:xxxx space and adding my sandbox draft proposal onto it, or starting a new RfC with my proposal. I don't want to ruffle any feathers. Perhaps Beeblebrox with his experience can chime in here. As I said before, the database isn't going to run away, and there's nothing to stop the trial going ahead while the first batch of stats is being prepared, but I just think it would be good to have something ready asap. The trial discussion is not a platform for discussing the technicalities, the devs will just have to do whatever is necessary to the site software, and we can discuss the wording of any user interface changes and messages. I know how to change those. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:13, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'm basically on board with your alternate proposal here; it should get things done while quelling some of the teeth-gnashing typical of these RfCs. Sorry I've been so apathetic here; RL caught up with me for a while, but I think the worst of it is over. I think we definitely want to get this on no later than July 1st. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 00:44, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'm back from my extended exile... I can try to compile some of these stats this week, perhaps as early as tomorrow. I'll let you know. It may not be possible for me to compile some of the stats requested above (for instance, number of articles created by non-autoconfirmed users which were later deleted), since that information is only available to admins, a user right with which I apparently can't be trusted. I'll dig around and see if there is any way to access that information via the toolserver database. —SW— talk 16:17, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Articles that need work
1. A article that needs work is Atlin,_British_Columbia. Can you clean it up? 2. Also since you are my mentor, can you tell me how I can clean up the Dale_Campbell aritcle? Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 03:04, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
I only only post once in the reference desk
I only only post once in the reference desk. Neptunekh2 (talk) 03:15, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi Blade. I've declined the A7 speedy on this because I don't believe A7 covers made-up philosophies. The AfD is here. Cheers. 28bytes (talk) 03:51, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- That's fine; I read it as a religion, but perhaps I was just up a bit too late last night. Thanks for letting me know. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 13:52, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Nomination of List of Swiss supercentenarians for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of Swiss supercentenarians is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Swiss supercentenarians until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.
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What reason do you have to believe that User:Terri-Jean Bedford isn't Terri-Jean Bedford? The user page she created seems a little bit promotional, but it's perfectly consistent with the publicly available information about the subject. It's also basically the same information as on her web site http://www.madamedesade.com/ (which even links to her user page on Wikipedia). If someone is putting this on as a hoax it's very elaborate. Pburka (talk) 03:13, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
HA!
The Barnstar of Good Humor | ||
You made me actually laugh out loud. I think we are on the losing side of this one, but it's always nice to know I'm not the only one who doesn't wish to cave in to the "nothing can ever offend anyone even hypothetically" mentality that has become so pervasive around here. Beeblebrox (talk) 04:32, 22 June 2011 (UTC) |
- Absolutely hilarious! Made me LOL too. I don't agree with either of you though ;) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:31, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks; I've increasingly found that many people are humor-impaired, and it's nice to know my sense of humor is appreciated. I'm a Mayhem fan; it's kinda hard to do worse than that (see Dawn of the Black Hearts). The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 14:30, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi,
I have erased the notability tag after adding some content. Hopefully, the article meets the guidelines now.
Best, Sasha (talk) 03:18, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
Adding to a article
I clean up the Dale_Campbell article a bit. What do you think? Neptunekh2 (talk) 01:07, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- I think you've done some good work on it; I'll pop in over the next day or two and see what I can do. You should also take a look at some of the links Elen of the Roads provided in the AfD and see if you can make use of those. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 05:06, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Stats
Hi Blade. Latest developments are here. If you have a moment, your ideas would be appreciated. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:49, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
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Myanmar at the 2010 Asian Para Games
Hello TBNL, you might not aware of it, but we don't use "Burma" on sport articles, like we have Myanmar at the 2008 Summer Olympics, similarly Myanmar at the 2010 Asian Games. This is a common naming convention. — Bill william comptonTalk 03:28, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Mea culpa; I jumped a bit too fast on this one. I've had to clean up after several new users unfamiliar with our naming conventions there (see my move log; and that's just the very tip of the iceberg, a lot of it is editing the articles as well), and I forgot to check this time. I'll clean up after myself, if you haven't already. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:33, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Pas de soucis. — Bill william comptonTalk 03:48, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Why did you remove the flag ? That page is part of the WikiProject Table tennis... all the wikipages about table tennis players include the flag/s in the biotemplate. --Cialo (talk) 13:59, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
NPP
Hi Blade. You will find this discussion interesting. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:00, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, good work. - Dank (push to talk) 19:08, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Glad to help. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 20:18, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
I saw you declined this AIV report a couple of days ago (now blocked by Favonian); this was yet another obvious MascotGuy sock. It says on his LTA page to block on sight, which I'd interpret to mean "take it to AIV" for us non-admins; he usually doesn't edit, he just creates accounts. When someone reports as a MascotGuy sock, you have to check the user creation log; if it's a new user creating a bunch of strangely-named accounts, it's definitely him. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 18:42, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the tip. I don't recall the specific report so maybe you did this, but in general it would be helpful to point out that it's a quacker in the report so we can know to check the creation log or leave it for someone else. I'll keep an eye out for this in the future anyway. Regards, causa sui (talk) 21:19, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Just a note that I undeleted this article per a request at WP:REFUND and sent it to AFD. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:09, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
- OK, thanks. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 01:23, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
Author notification about speedy at Share2there
Hi. This is just to let you know that you may have forgeotten to notify the author about the speedy deletion. I have anyways gone ahead and notified regarding the same. Cheers! — Abhishek Talk 16:05, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry about that; I usually tag with Twinkle, but today something got borked and I had to manually tag. Thanks for cleaning up after me. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 16:33, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
- No worries. You're right, there seems to be a problem with TW. I tried tagging a page for speedy, all it did was only notify the author and not tag the page. — Abhishek Talk 16:39, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
Nick Moore (Film Director)
Thanks to the ministrations of user:PamD, i think the article has reliable sourcing now. ElectricRay (talk) 09:12, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
Can you add to stub article that is a town in Africa called Kobaia,_Sierra_Leone? There is a lack of information about the town online. Also I created an article about an Inuit artist called Simeonie_Amagoalik. Can you add to those 2 articles please? Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 23:52, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
- Sure, give me a day or two to finish my userspace draft, and it shouldn't be a problem. I'll add some, and I'll give you the sources I used; I want you to look through them when I'm done and see if there's anything else you can add. Sound like a deal? The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 01:08, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
AfD
Jeff Pearce (American artist). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.81.131.48 (talk) 13:54, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
You nominate articles for deletion. I am bringing this to your attention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.216.194.180 (talk) 13:16, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
Number_1_Ladies_Detective_Agency
There is an upcoming book in the Number_1_Ladies_Detective_Agency by Alexander_McCall_Smith called Botswana 13. I found a source for the book right here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Botswana-13-Alexander-McCall-Smith/dp/1408702606 Can you please add this information in the Number_1_Ladies_Detective_Agency by Alexander_McCall_Smith articles? Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 19:23, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
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Hi!
Can't you tell me, when I log in (write username, password), and can't edit and write articles under my username. Browser says me that I have "cookies" disabled. What must I do? User: John Troodon — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.75.119.189 (talk) 13:39, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not sure; the people at the help desk, who are generally more technically oriented than me, should be able to help you though. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 13:42, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) depending on the platform you are using, (Windows, Mac OS )You coud try looking in your browser 'properties', 'settings' or 'preferences' and check 'enable cookies'. You may also wish to look at your 'My preferences' on the top of the Wikipedia pages, and check that everything is in order. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:56, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
The problem is, that I can't go to "My preferences". When I click there, it says me:"Error. It is private information(or smth like it)".User:John Troodon — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.75.119.189 (talk) 05:16, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
Wheels
Apparently, I'm going to start rolling... :P Reaper Eternal (talk) 02:57, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
- You and Rupert Murdoch both; and his company. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:00, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
- Well, I'm heading off to bed for the night. I'd watch the new talk page log, as floods of vandalistic pages of similar nature are rolling in. :P G'night! Reaper Eternal (talk) 03:03, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
- The little 4chan kiddies probably couldn't get dates; I guess they have to vent the frustration of being rejected somewhere. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:04, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
- Well, I'm heading off to bed for the night. I'd watch the new talk page log, as floods of vandalistic pages of similar nature are rolling in. :P G'night! Reaper Eternal (talk) 03:03, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
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Neptunekh2
See my talkpage. She's created a bunch of categories that are all nominated for deletion - Category:Hudson bay native people that doesn't make sense, Category:American_Actors_of_British_descent that goes against pre-established principles, and a whole bunch that divides up TV shows in Canada, to Tv shows (or sometimes tv series) in various misspelled bits of Canada. SeeWikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2011_July_9 for the whole lot. She's also spamming again, and Nymf has found a copyvio at Simeonie Amagoalik (the diff is on my talkpage.
Hand on heart, can you honestly say that Neptune is communicating with you. If you are in email contact with her, you might have a chance to explain all this. Or is she just firing orders to fix things at your talkpage, and not actually talking to you?--Elen of the Roads (talk) 15:31, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
- Hi all, first off, sorry Blade, I wanted to write you with some suggestions concerning Neptune but real life got really real for the whole month of June.
- Basically, I was going to ask you to talk to Neptune about her category creations, see this post on Elen's talk page, where I listed a bunch of categories that she created that were either duplicata, improbable cross-sections or wrongly spelled, as you will see most have been subsequently deleted.
- Neptune does not seem to take on board notability - here, amongst others, I am referring to her creation of articles about two villages in the middle of nowhere in Sierra Leone, Kobaia, Sierra Leone and Ballowharf. All I could find about Ballowharf was an Amnesty report in French about some refugees going there and I think it said the population was about 4-500 people, so just some poor fishing village on the northern coast of SL. I know that you are trying to help her but if she cannot take on board the basic criteria for creating an article or category then you are in serious trouble.
- I was monitoring your exchanges a month ago and Neptune seems to just create one or two line articles about fairly obscure or non-notable subjects and then ask you to expand the article. I think someone needs to explain to her that you can't just create articles about anything or everything that takes your fancy. CaptainScreebo Parley! 16:52, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
- Well, I thought I had made some progress with getting her to post less often at the reference desk. My RL has been somewhat crazy of late, and I'm trying (through various means) to get this implemented, so I've not been as communicative as I probably should have; however, it's not as if I haven't done anything to try. I did try to steer her in the right direction on Dale Campbell, and I thought I'd gotten somewhere (she did do some work on it, though not a huge amount; at the time I was willing to chalk that up to something in RL, as she had slowed down for a couple of days), but it doesn't seem to have been enough. I'll leave her a strongly-worded message on her talkpage; if that isn't enough, I think we'll need to invoke WP:NOTTHERAPY. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:16, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
- No criticism of you here. If someone won't talk, they won't talk, and if someone is (apparently) unable to parse the meaning of 'please run this by me first', or 'please show me here', then it makes mentoring kind of impossible. Elen of the Roads (talk) 17:54, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
- Just to add to Elen's comments, you seem to be wholeheartedly interested in helping this user, so no criticism of you. I noticed that there seemed to be e-mail exchanges going on and you replied to your own tp messages after having apparently received an e-mail reply from Neptune. For me, Neptune does not seem to be able to take on board the criteria for article/category creation, hell, I used to practise Tai Chi, I use homeopathy (not often as I'm almost never ill) and so on, but there is no way I will wade in to these areas on Wikipedia and say "you're wrong, it works" as this would be OR and the current weight of scientific opinion is against all of this stuff (and I won't even mention the cosmic origins of mankind, chaos magic and ley lines for example, oops!). Basically, WP has a set of rules and if we can't abide by them then we shouldn't wiki in the first place. CaptainScreebo Parley! 18:48, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
- No criticism of you here. If someone won't talk, they won't talk, and if someone is (apparently) unable to parse the meaning of 'please run this by me first', or 'please show me here', then it makes mentoring kind of impossible. Elen of the Roads (talk) 17:54, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
- Well, I thought I had made some progress with getting her to post less often at the reference desk. My RL has been somewhat crazy of late, and I'm trying (through various means) to get this implemented, so I've not been as communicative as I probably should have; however, it's not as if I haven't done anything to try. I did try to steer her in the right direction on Dale Campbell, and I thought I'd gotten somewhere (she did do some work on it, though not a huge amount; at the time I was willing to chalk that up to something in RL, as she had slowed down for a couple of days), but it doesn't seem to have been enough. I'll leave her a strongly-worded message on her talkpage; if that isn't enough, I think we'll need to invoke WP:NOTTHERAPY. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:16, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
I want to run this by you=
Is the category Category:People_from_Hudson_Bay_Quebec a good catgeory to create? Please let me know. I'll use Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith. What do you want me to do? Neptunekh2 (talk) 18:55, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
- First you need to deal with Category:Hudson bay native people which is currently at categories for deleteion. Do you understand why that category is proposed for deletion.
- Second, Category:People by region in Quebec does contain subcategories for people from the various regions in Quebec. However, if you look up Hudson Bay, it's not like Echo Beach - its a vast saltwater bay, with a huge shoreline and numerous islands. So the question is - do you mean Hudson_Bay,_Saskatchewan, Hudson Bay (electoral district), or people who live on the islands. You should put a note into the category to say which definition applies. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 20:27, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
- And don't spam [9] Elen of the Roads (talk) 20:30, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
Talkback
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See 'Stats'; --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 21:07, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
Edit summaries
Please review this edit. I've opened a thread on the project talk page for discussion.David in DC (talk) 00:54, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
- Kinda unfortunate that it needs saying, but I fully agree with it. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 01:22, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
trial: technical requirements
I have started the discussion for the technical requirements here, and populated the page with what is basically needed and some suggestions for the interface changes. I am not an expert in these matters. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:59, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for your comments on WT:CSD. I realise that I didn't respond, and I didn't want to seem rude. Thanks for the link, and thanks for the sentiment; I appreciate it. — Fly by Night (talk) 23:58, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
- No problem; sometimes the people who hang around that page make it seem like the consensus about it is much more immutable than it is. It sometimes helps to remind people an alternate viewpoint exists. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 00:15, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
???
Why&--Racemeans (talk) 17:17, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
Finding Sources
1. Could you find a reliable source for Pornstar Chanel_Preston's heritage or ancestry and list it in her article? 2. Could you also find a source saying that actor John_Cho has duel American and Korean nationality since he is Korean-born? Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 06:55, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
Flags
Why did you get rid of the flags in the last surviving veterans of the spanish civil war?
Idiot. Goldblooded (talk) 19:50, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- Forgive me for butting in, but those flags failed WP:FLAGBIO and this user was following the guideline correctly. Also, if you want to continue as a Wikipedia editor, you need to learn how to address people properly and courteously. However you might like to address people in person, on Wikipedia we have higher standards. You would be well advised to read WP:NPA, and maybe even restrict your abuse of other editors to occasions when you're not completely wrong. Bretonbanquet (talk) 20:09, 21 July 2011 (UTC)