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The result was merge‎ to Baybayin. ✗plicit 23:37, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Basahan

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Just a duplicate article of Baybayin. Remsense ‥ 诉 15:31, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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merge or redirect to Baybayin per WP:ATD. --Lenticel ^(talk) 07:09, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Baybayin (WP:ATD) Rusty 🐈 15:14, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Morley–Ellenbrook line without prejudice against merger. Owen× ☎ 15:20, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bennett Springs East railway station

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This station is not under construction and there are no plans to begin construction anytime soon. Therefore, there are very few sources for this station, and it can be adequately covered at Morley–Ellenbrook line. Steelkamp (talk) 14:59, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge too Morley–Ellenbrook line per nom, we can recreate if they build the station Jumpytoo Talk 23:11, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What would be the point of merging? There is nothing written on this article that is not already on Morley–Ellenbrook line. Steelkamp (talk) 00:32, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Morley–Ellenbrook line per nom. – Epicgenius (talk) 13:46, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Morley-Ellenbrook line as there is no content worth keeping; perhaps add a mention on the page for the line? Rusty 🐈 15:12, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Mojo Hand (talk) 13:30, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MTS (group)

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Article about a dance music band, not properly sourced as having any strong claim to passing WP:NMUSIC. The attempted notability claim here is that they had a single chart in specialty charts, like RPM Dance and Billboard Bubbling Under, that are not the primary national hits charts for the purposes of NMUSIC #2, and thus do not constitute an instant notability freebie in the absence of WP:GNG-worthy coverage about the band -- but the only other source here is an unreliable source that contradicts some of the claims in this article (compare our "MTS was a Eurodance project formed in Canada" to ""MTS was an American eurodance project created in Miami, Florida"), and a WP:BEFORE search found absolutely nothing else: apart from more unreliable sources, the only thing I found was a brief glancing namecheck of the song's existence as a song getting played on a radio station in an article about that radio station.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt the sourcing from having to be better than it is, especially given the conflict about whether they were Canadian or American in the first place. Bearcat (talk) 13:22, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - agree with the conclusions of the thorough before research by Bearcat. The fact that "In 1997, they released a studio album." is [citation needed] and the studio album isn't even named speaks volumes. Jonathan Deamer (talk) 13:25, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete per nom. Mccapra (talk) 05:32, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 12:39, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Samuel Bagín

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I cannot find any evidence of notability on this young Slovak men's footballer. Search results in news sources only come up with passing mentions and transfer announcements, such as this one, but I'm not sure how reliable the source is. Notability is not inherited from playing for a big club or league. This might fall under WP:TOOSOON, but consider that AS Trenčín is certainly not well-known outside Slovakia anyway, I don't think there will be any significant coverage in reliable sources of Bagín in the coming years. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:38, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 13:52, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:49, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NNI News

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This is one of many news agencies in Pakistan, but it doesn't seem to meet the GNG or even NORG which passes WP:SIRS. Most of coverage is routine and focused on the agency's own people. For example, this which says A photographer of NNI news agency ... also lost their lives in the same incident. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 08:21, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete nothing notable and no sources provided for establishing the general or organizational notability. Dirubii Olchoglu (talk) 11:23, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Star Mississippi 00:00, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mohammad Furqan

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A mayor with not much media coverage. Doesn't seem notable per WP:NPOL. Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:46, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, Furqan is the mayor of a city with over 800,000 people and there are many Hindi language sources; Dainik Jagran, Amar Ujala, Dainik Bhaskar, Jansatta, and Aaj Tak Microplastic Consumer (talk) 13:26, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep per Microplastic Consumer. Sources are somewhat routine but still offer enough significant coverage to meet WP:NBASIC. It's not like he's a losing candidate; he was elected as mayor of a large city. C F A 💬 03:42, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete per G3 by Bishonen. (non-admin closure)‎ Shellwood (talk) 13:50, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sseruwagi Sinclaire Sebastian

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Seems to be a hoax at some level. I doubt this person edited/composed for these major films at the age of 5. The page even mentions “his compositions have been uncredited for years”. [1] and [2] are movie databases that aren’t reliable and any other verification is based off IMDb. Nothing I can see justifies keeping. CherryPie94 🍒🥧 (talk) 11:00, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as hoax per nom - I can only find user-generated sources. I suspect that "He is currently a student of the Lubiri Secondary School." and the date of birth are the only correct things here. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:28, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete as vandalism. Look at users contribution history and previous attempts to create this obvious nonsense article. (I also think this have become a case of WP:NOTHERE.) --ZimZalaBim ^talk 12:08, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ^Complex/_Rational 10:08, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cyprus–Finland relations

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Unreferenced for 15 years. The external links provided are primary. No third party sources to meet GNG. LibStar (talk) 09:27, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Almost no information about the nominal subject. For example, "While Finland became a member of NATO in 2023, Cyprus has never been a member of NATO": what has that to do with Cyprus–Finland relations? Athel cb (talk) 09:56, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly. I had the same question. LibStar (talk) 10:58, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The article has very little to say about this topic, and there are no inline sources provided. If, in the future, the relationship between these countries becomes more established as notable, the article can be re-created at that time. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 21:06, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. All the information in this article is already included in Foreign relations of Cyprus and Foreign relations of Finland. Since neither of these articles takes preference as a redirect target, the article is best deleted as a WP:CFORK or a totally unjustified SPINOFF. Without prejudice against future inclusion in WP, if someone finds good sources and information. gidonb (talk)
Harmless but Delete. This is more of a "doesn't earn the space it takes up" delete. Even if every fact in the article were perfectly sourced, there just aren't enough facts to establish that Cyprus-Finland relations are enough of a thing to have their own article. Darkfrog24 (talk) 23:09, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Merzak Allouache#Selected filmography. as a natural ATD. Owen× ☎ 14:18, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On a Bicycle

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Simply fails WP:NFILM. Nothing to suggest notability. No critical reception from reliable sources whatsoever. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:27, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Virtually unknown in France, let alone anywhere else. Athel cb (talk) 10:00, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Merzak_Allouache#Selected_filmography: Notable cast, a few reliable websites in French allow verification and contain a rating, so opposed to deletion and redirecting to director is a good altenative to deletion. Not opposed to keep. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:45, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus‎. Star Mississippi 00:00, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tony Langdon

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Only primary sources provided. A search under his name and "Anthony Langdon" yielded no sources. I also searched Australian database trove and it only yielded two 1 line mentions of this person. LibStar (talk) 09:21, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Represented his nation. Multiple secondary sources available on British newspaper Archive, I have added two of them and there are plenty more available. Racingmanager (talk) 14:04, 22 August 2024 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Racingmanager (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. [reply]
Representing his nation does not guarantee automatic notability. LibStar (talk) 04:08, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: National winner, thus pass #4 of WP:NMOTORSPORT. SpacedFarmer (talk) 19:43, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Criteria 4 of NMOTORSPORT is not applicable to this case by any stretch of the imagination. Further, this user has since been banned from deletion discussions (ANI decision). 5225_C (talk • contributions) 12:32, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  @5225C: But does then their comment count towards the final verdict? They were banned after they made this comment. ‍Relativity ⚡️ 20:29, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - That's for the closing administrator to decide. 5225_C (talk • contributions) 10:35, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @5225C, do you have a view of the notability of this person? LibStar (talk) 04:16, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The sourcing in the article is almost comically bad. I don't think it's anywhere close to meeting the GNG. I have serious concerns about speedway coverage on Wikipedia. Virtually every article I encounter, whether it's a team, rider, or series, has a complete lack of quality sourcing and generally lacks a credible claim of encyclopaedic significance. Apologies to fans of speedway, but not every sport is actually notable, and it doesn't look like speedway personalities deserve encylopaedic coverage (not that they get any coverage outside of speciality, industry-published outlets). If it were up to me, I'd batch delete every speedway biography written in the last two years. 5225_C (talk • contributions) 11:30, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you. Just noting you haven't actually cast a !vote here. LibStar (talk) 23:37, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:14, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oleksandr Pshenychnyuk

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This is the same sort of case as Vladyslav Kalyn, Yaroslav Kysil and Roman Savchenko (footballer), all recently deleted young Ukrainian footballers with no significant coverage from independent sources. To qualify for an article, there must be multiple instances of significant coverage to pass WP:SPORTBASIC and WP:GNG. Please note that notability is WP:NOTINHERITED from playing for a notable club or notable league and that pointing out that other non-notable players also have articles is not a relevant reason to keep. WP:NSPORTS2022 confirms that the cameo appearances for Chornomorets are not sufficient for notability under current consensus. The references included are trivial; UA Football is a mere squad list mention and Sport.ua is likewise just as bad. Likewise, I found Sport Arena, a trivial mention in the match report and goal listing at the bottom, and Rivne, which lists him in the U19 squad list and mentions him once further in the prose. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:09, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: In my opinion it's not true if we talk about the recently deleted article Roman Savchenko (footballer), cause there is a reference which imho provides WP:SIGCOV. The same is about the recently deleted article Vladyslav Kalyn ... the article imho has references which also provide WP:SIGCOV. Furthermore Vladyslav Kalyn as player provides enough notability ... he is a ukrainian youth international (U17 and U18), and the facts have been backed by the appropriate references in the article. Web-wiki-warrior (talk) 20:10, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"...cameo appearances for Chornomorets..."

What about constant presence in the youth national team (U17, U18) ? I mean Vladyslav Kalyn. Web-wiki-warrior (talk) 20:26, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Youth football appearances have never conferred notability, even prior to WP:NSPORTS2022 they were considered inadequate in the absence of WP:SIGCOV. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:32, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The nom has made very clear, citing multiple policy pages, that run directly counter to your opinions about why this article is notable. I strongly suggest reading those pages and making note of what actually defines a subject's notability. Appearances for youth national teams do not count and neither do appearances for a professional team—see the somewhat recent changes at WP:NSPORTS2022. Anwegmann (talk) 04:03, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 11:17, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- There are no decent sources at all per nomination. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:39, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and consider SALT to protect the page permanently from further re-creation. If anyone could find similar articles of sportspeople from any country, I have no prejudice against nominating them for deletion. @Spiderone: I was wondering... Is there any article of such youth athletes at the moment that pass WP:GNG? It seems quite unfair since almost no media cover significant coverage of them. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:39, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are plenty of young footballers that meet GNG. Nestory Irankunda and Claudio Echeverri are both the same age as Pshenychnyuk but have achieved way more coverage than him and therefore pass GNG. Age is not the issue, it's simply just the fact that not every professional footballer warrants an article because, simply put, nobody has cared enough to write at length about Pshenychnyuk yet. He may well become notable in the future but he may also disappear into obscurity like tens of thousands of others. It's not our job as editors to predict who will be notable so we are best waiting until they get big coverage like Irankunda, Lamine Yamal etc. before creating an article. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:48, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Why this protection (=SALT)? Especially if in the meantime the player develops, has a good career, gets media exposure and deserves a wikipedia article. Web-wiki-warrior (talk) 20:17, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – Per nom. Svartner (talk) 21:34, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and SALT—This is a repeated thing we keep seeing. The editor who created this article and several others has not been following WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG standards, and this article is a good example of how that is a problem. Anwegmann (talk) 03:59, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, to Spiderone's point, it is indeed possible for a young footballer of this age to have sustained coverage if they are notable (fun bit of trivia, I have shared a football field with Irankunda on many occasion!). Pshenychnyuk does not reach that threshold of coverage and therefore doesn't meet the notability standards required by Wikipedia. Daniel (talk) 19:14, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Slovakia–United Kingdom relations which preserves the history if there's desire to merge sourced information Star Mississippi 12:58, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Embassy of the United Kingdom, Bratislava

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Fails WP:ORG. Only source provided is primary. LibStar (talk) 08:33, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge into Slovakia–United Kingdom relations. Both articles are short and the target is helped by the source. Why wasn't this ATD proposed upfront? gidonb (talk) 18:15, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per Gidonb. I'm not sure why these articles persist in being nominated at AfD when the can and should be merged and/or redirected. Thryduulf (talk) 00:25, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
From WP:BLAR: An RfC closed in 2021 found Most users believe that AfD should be used to settle controversial or contested cases of blanking and redirecting. Given you and the over AfD participant seem to prefer merging over redirecting, sending this to AfD seems to me like the right call. Pilaz (talk) 14:44, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and oppose merge because the target article has zero secondary sources, no encyclopedic content and should be deleted. No secondary sources at this page either. By the way, AfD is an appropriate venue to discuss merging or redirecting. AusLondonder (talk) 17:14, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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KEEP Important article about a notable building in Bratislava. Cantab12 (talk) 08:52, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How does it meet a notability guideline? Where are the sources to back your claims? LibStar (talk) 09:07, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge into Slovakia–United Kingdom relations, or just redirect. There is very little content. Slovakia–United Kingdom relations is a notable topic so there is no reason to delete it. AfD is appropriate for redirecting, but merging should be discussed at WP:PM. C F A 💬 16:16, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Daniel (talk) 04:28, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Andrey Rudoy

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Seems to fail WP:NBIO. The Russian sources on this person's activities presented in the article are either blogs or very insignificant media. The conformity of WP:POLITICIAN and WP:SINGER criteria are also failed. Dantiras (talk) 12:53, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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David Rowley (writer)

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Help! Can't find any reviews of the Beatles books written by this guy, hence failing WP:NAUTHOR. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:05, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are at least two sigcov reviews of his books on ProQuest. 1 for Beatles For Sale, 1 for All Together Now. That's not quite there but I can't do an in depth check now - however, it's not nothing. I will vote after I have done a better check. PARAKANYAA (talk) 07:56, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Does one of the ProQuest articles include a review from The Spectator? A review for All Together Now shows up in Google Search, but it's a dead link and not archived from what I can tell. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 23:54, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Significa liberdade Yes, that's one of them. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:54, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@PARAKANYAA: Is the other the review in Goldmine? Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 00:02, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Significa liberdade Yes. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:07, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Attempted a more thorough search, got nothing else. PARAKANYAA (talk) 07:04, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge‎ to 2004 Madrid train bombings. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 09:02, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jamal Zougam

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WP:BLP1E. Merge content where appropriate into 2004 Madrid train bombings, then redirect the page. Longhornsg (talk) 06:05, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment judging from the Spanish article, it's likely that if the main article was brought to FA level comprehensiveness a biography should be written on him per size split reasons, given that he is one of the key figures in one of the deadliest terror attacks ever. So, if this is merged, I would not oppose it being split out again at some time. PARAKANYAA (talk) 07:34, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, he does have (not counting life sentences), the third longest prison sentence of all time. I feel that is perhaps a claim to notability. From what I'm looking at an article could definitely be written on him - BLP1E is for low level crimes, not ones that kill nearly 200 people. The other two conditions of the policy are the person being a "low profile individual" (he is not) and that the event not be a SIGNIFICANT historical event in which the role of the person is well documented (he is). So he does not fail BLP1E. With more notorious cases there are often the sources to write both, and the reason he is the one with an article is because he seemed to be one of the more prominent figures. Same reason we have an article on Mohamed Atta. So either keep or merge for now. PARAKANYAA (talk) 08:12, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge the article to 2004 Madrid train bombings. Delete the person. Polygnotus (talk) 12:11, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Nordic race. as an ATD Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:58, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Continental Nordic race

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The article fails WP:GNG, all its source are primary sources from about 100 years ago, written by "race theorists" (see Scientific racism). We already have Nordic race and that seems enough. Rsk6400 (talk) 06:56, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Not needed as standalone article. Capitals00 (talk) 18:10, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge or redirect into Nordic race as an ATD. Appears not to meet WP:NFRINGE, but it's at least a viable search term. – Joe (talk) 06:50, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete Race theorists of this era should be assumed unreliable per nom.Ben Azura (talk) 08:28, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge‎ to 2004 Madrid train bombings. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:25, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2004 Madrid train bombings suspects

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Delete or redirect to 2004 Madrid train bombings. Besides the WP:BLP considerations, absolutely no need for a separate page for this content per WP:PAGEDECIDE. Longhornsg (talk) 06:04, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to the main article. Not actually as many BLP issues as I thought from the title, just a list of those convicted + one high profile very studied false arrest. The main article actually does not have a list of the men convicted of directly perpetrating the attack. The other sections are perhaps unnecessary but I feel a list of the main perpetrators would improve the main article. It appears unsourced but it is sourced to the Guardian article. PARAKANYAA (talk) 08:01, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge as appropriate to the main article. There's not really any reason for this to be a separate article. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 20:45, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Daniel (talk) 04:26, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Rowley (disambiguation)

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One notable Peter, another not so notable and one partial match can all be handled by one or two hatnotes in Peter Rowley. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:38, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep there's definitely a primary topic, but 3 other entries readers may be looking for, and this page then might be WP:USEFUL for them. All 3 entries meet MOS:DABMENTION or have an article, and there is also a valid see also. Boleyn (talk) 07:53, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per Boleyn. This potentially helps the reader. BD2412 T 16:46, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Daniel (talk) 04:26, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Naval Nuclear Propulsion Information

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Redirect to Controlled Unclassified Information. Wikipedia is WP:NOTDICTIONARY. Mentions of NNPI are solely in this context ([1] [2] [3] [4], not WP:SIGCOV.

NNPI is one of many, many unremarkable categories of Controlled Unclassified Information, to where this article should redirect. Longhornsg (talk) 05:47, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 09:03, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Knowledge Aided Retrieval in Activity Context

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WP:PROMO and fails WP:GNG. KARNAC was mentioned in one promotional article in 2001 ([5], which was mentioned in WP:PASSING in one Radio Free Europe article 4 years ago, with no update as to whether this software was actually created. Longhornsg (talk) 05:54, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep. There is sigcov in a 2009 book for two pages but it is discussed seemingly as a kind of hypothetical-ish thing. Discussed in several books from the 2010s as well, i less lengthy pieces. I would argue it is at least somewhat notable as a proposal - there is a decent amount of newspaper criticism of just the concept. PARAKANYAA (talk) 07:45, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per PARAKANYAA. No indication of WP:PROMO in the article. James500 (talk) 09:31, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 03:48, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eva Carboni

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Not yet notable per WP:MUSICBIO. Her main claim to notability appears to be her collaboration with Mick Simpson, whose own notability remains unclear, but in any case on Wikipedia notability is not inherited. The only coverage I could find of her in a WP:BEFORE search is in music blogs, with no significant coverage in reliable, secondary sources. Wikishovel (talk) 05:42, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The production of this artist is wide and easily verifiable on all music distribution platforms. We are not talking about self-productions but about productions of a real and recognized music label. The same streams and visions are public and demonstrate the truthfulness of what is written. Furthermore, the sources, although considered "secondary" are reliable and truthful. I believe that the request for cancellation is excessive.. 2A0D:3344:244D:4410:D521:A9AE:8355:ADEC (talk) 10:35, 11 August 2024 (UTC) — 2A0D:3344:244D:4410:D521:A9AE:8355:ADEC (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

The production of this artist is wide and easily verifiable on all music distribution platforms. We are not talking about self-productions but about productions of a real and recognized music label. The same streams and visions are public and demonstrate the truthfulness of what is written. Furthermore, the sources, although considered "secondary" are reliable and truthful. I believe that the request for cancellation is excessive.. Salvacarb (talk) 18:25, 11 August 2024 (UTC) — Salvacarb (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Delete per nom. Jdcomix (talk) 22:03, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please, explain the reasons.. 2A0D:3344:244D:4410:C50B:417B:1664:DB7C (talk) 15:55, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Salvacarb (talk) 12:21, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - The "keep" votes above (hint: if you want to look like two different people, say two different things) show no awareness of Wikipedia policy. This is not a promotional service in which you can copy the singer's website and list all of the streaming sources where her songs can be found. This is an encyclopedia in which someone has to qualify for an article by earning significant and reliable coverage in independent media. She does have a few album reviews (already cited) but I could find nothing else that provides verifiable or significant biographical info. Otherwise she has succeeded in plastering her name across self-created sites and retail platforms, but Wikipedia is not part of that scene. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:55, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. I also couldn't find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. toweli (talk) 14:51, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to List of Thai television soap operas. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:14, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Buang Ruk Kamathep

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Unreferenced cross-wiki spam. Mccapra (talk) 05:30, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Not sure what the "cross-wiki spam" claim is supposed to mean. It's a nationally televised TV series, and has the usual press coverage[6][7][8] and magazine covers[9][10], though as is often the case most information seems to be from press releases. It's 15 years old now so some sources may have gone offline. That said, The current article is such an uninformative substub that there's not much to lose if this is deleted without prejudice. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:40, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The sources presented by Paul 012 can be added to the page and I consider them enough to show this is notable. A redirect should be considered anyway.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:42, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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If a redirect is the path chosen, it could be to List of Thai television soap operas.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 19:48, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No objection to a redirect. Mccapra (talk) 22:41, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Peace Action#Grassroots work. Daniel (talk) 04:25, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Student Peace Action Network

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Is not WP:NOTABLE. Within the article, there are no reliable, independent sources listed. Until they are found (if they exist), the article should not exist on Wikipedia. AEagleLionThing (talk) 06:14, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Peace Action. Reywas92^Talk 14:43, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Peace_Action#Grassroots_work where there is a mention of SPAN. SilkTork (talk) 16:37, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Peace_Action#Grassroots_work, where, as SilkTork points out, the subject is mentioned. Sal2100 (talk) 14:52, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:13, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Timeline of Pinterest

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Basically per WP:WEBHOST. This article has been tagged as possibly having been "created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use" for over seven years with no resolution of that tag. Notable or not, Wikipedia should not maintain content that violates its terms of use for such a length of time. BD2412 T 02:56, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: standard WP:SPLITLIST, see Category:Technology company timelines. No blatantly promotional language visible, nor is the alleged UPE issue discussed on the TP, so that the tag could, or even should, have been removed. Might need some cleanup. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:39, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not suitable for Wikipedia. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 02:40, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Per nom. M S Hassan 📬✍🏻 05:31, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, this sort of cataloguing is not Wikipedia's business, and it appears to be a conflict of interest, i.e. this is actively undesirable as well as totally unnecessary and unencyclopedic. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:33, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep only needs basic clean up as per WP:SPLITLIST, remember that AfD is NOT Clean Up, this page is clearly notable but in a bad shape. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 08:37, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Doesn't matter how much it's cleaned up, the topic of the timeline isn't notable (even if the company is, but that's a separate article, and notability is not inherited) and is of benefit only to the company concerned. This sort of over-detail is not in Wikipedia's interest; it should not be here, and keeping it is actively dangerous as it encourages other companies to try to use us for free advertising. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:41, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  a personally think we should refer this to the guild of copy-editors, and remove some unwanted stuffs and possible make the article in prose not in table form as it sounds like a catalogue. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 08:48, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Promotional material can be removed. The topic meets WP:NLIST ([11][12][13][14]) and is a valid WP:SPLITLIST. No reason to delete. C F A 💬 17:04, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep but maybe delete the many primary and affiliated sources. SecretSpectre (talk) 09:09, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Per nom, but also because WP:NOTDB. This definitely leans more into an indiscriminate list of Pinterest-related events rather than an attempt to document notable points in its history. Puhala,ny (talk) 21:36, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:11, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wayne T. Smith

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Basically per WP:WEBHOST. This article has been tagged as possibly having been "created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use" for over seven years with no resolution of that tag. Notable or not, Wikipedia should not maintain content that violates its terms of use for such a length of time. BD2412 T 02:55, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy keep: AfD is not clean up, Yes, the article is in bad shape but the subject of the article is notable enough as the lead alone is enough explained how he is notable. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 08:43, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: meets WP:NBASIC. Promotional content can be removed. No reason to delete an article on a notable topic. C F A 💬 16:46, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:08, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Playware Studios

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Basically per WP:WEBHOST. This article has been tagged as possibly having been "created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use" for over seven years with no resolution of that tag. Notable or not, Wikipedia should not maintain content that violates its terms of use for such a length of time. BD2412 T 02:55, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Despite its many sources, fails WP:GNG. ~ JASWE (talk) 03:10, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep: I do not think a possible conflict of interest alone is a sufficient AfD reasoning, many articles were probably written unknowningly with a conflict of interest. Probably notability issues, but some projects received press coverage. IgelRM (talk) 11:44, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We require independent content about the company itself - see WP:NOTINHERITED. HighKing⁺⁺ 14:48, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete This is a company therefore GNG/WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. I'm unable to identify any references that meet the criteria for establishing notability. HighKing⁺⁺ 14:48, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:10, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Magaya Corporation

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Basically per WP:WEBHOST. This article has been tagged as possibly having been "created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use" for over seven years with no resolution of that tag. Notable or not, Wikipedia should not maintain content that violates its terms of use for such a length of time. BD2412 T 02:54, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Can't find anything. Even if there was something, TNT would apply. Aaron Liu (talk) 03:24, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Nothing but press releases and company web sites. - Donald Albury 14:32, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete none of the refs are notability lending (including the off-web note "Binder, an app that adds photos to Magaya transactions"). Best, GPL93 (talk) 14:37, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Since the editor who placed the UPE tag on this article is now supporting Keeping it, I tend to weigh that in favor of this article. The nominator didn't help his case with a nomination statement that wasn't specific to this article with an assessment on its content and sources and which was copied and pasted on other AFDs. The whole deletion rationale rests on the undesirability of UPE but that doesn't seem to be a problem to the participants here. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:10, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Lucas (playwright)

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Basically per WP:WEBHOST. This article has been tagged as possibly having been "created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use" for over seven years with no resolution of that tag. Notable or not, Wikipedia should not maintain content that violates its terms of use for such a length of time. BD2412 T 02:53, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Having that tag on the article isn't a valid reason to delete. Also, the editor who added that paid tag years ago didn't give any proof or an explanation for why it was added, so I'm not even sure it should be on the article. Instead, for an AfD we are concerned with notability and for that the subject easily passes. In addition to the citations already in the article, there are a ton more out there, including a long list of citations on the article's talk page. Add in all the additional notable citations for this author in places like The Herald (link), American Theater (link), and WBUR (link), along with coverage of his plays in Playbill (link) and many other places, and this playwright easily meets our notability guidlines.--SouthernNights (talk) 12:16, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- We can always ask. @Smartse: what led you to add the UPE tag to this article, and do you think that still applies? BD2412 T 00:10, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - See Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard/Archive_114#user:Pklucas. The article was written by an editor who created several promotional articles for which I blocked them, and shortly after this article was created, an account claiming to be subject appeared and made several changes. SmartSE (talk) 10:45, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree the article's subject made edits to his article. That said, I'm still not sure why the article was tagged with a paid contributor tag. Probably just a mix-up with the tags years ago. Thanks for dealing with the conflict of interest back then.SouthernNights (talk) 13:13, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I tagged notability on this ages ago (2017) when I was copyediting the article. The playwright only performed at a large festival (Edinburgh Fringe) that has hundreds maybe thousands of different acts, so that in itself isn't particularly notable. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 15:34, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I would probably tag "autobio" since it seems to come from someone representing the person himself. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 15:35, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. References provided by SouthernNights are sufficient to satisfy WP:CREATIVE. AFD isn't clean up and any remaining problems can be dealt with. SmartSE (talk) 11:36, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:04, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Home idle load

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Basically per WP:WEBHOST. This article has been tagged as possibly having been "created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use" for over seven years with no resolution of that tag. Notable or not, Wikipedia should not maintain content that violates its terms of use for such a length of time. BD2412 T 02:53, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Possibly relevant discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electrical_engineering/Archive_1#Is Home Idle Load a neologism? PianoDan (talk) 00:15, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: The concept discussed in the article is distinct from standby power and plug load and doesn't have a clear merge target. The issues regarding paid contributions could be remedied in a rough manner by removing all mentions of specific brands, recommendations, etc., and it isn't so bad that the whole article should be deleted and redone (WP:TNT). The concept exists beyond its uses to promote brands. Recon rabbit 16:41, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, just remove everything that could be paid/promotional. - WPGA2345 - ☛ 21:37, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:59, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph Hodara

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Basically per WP:WEBHOST. This article has been tagged as possibly having been "created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use" for over seven years with no resolution of that tag. Notable or not, Wikipedia should not maintain content that violates its terms of use for such a length of time. BD2412 T 02:52, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. Articles can be cleaned up. How does Hodera score under PROF? gidonb (talk) 02:29, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Gidonb: Articles can be cleaned up, but one sitting there with a UPE tag for seven years suggests that it will not be cleaned up. Therefore, the subject's PROF score is irrelevant, because it is better to have a red link that might prompt natural creation of an article rather than indefinitely continuing to host content that violates Wikipedia's TOS. BD2412 T 03:42, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm happy to clean the article up if the PROF score justifies it. Patiently waiting for the answer to my question. Rest assured that I had read the intro and had taken it into full account before writing my comment. gidonb (talk) 04:20, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gidonb: See analysis by David Eppstein below. BD2412 T 20:54, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I didn't find any evidence of heavily cited works that could pass WP:PROF#C1, and although the article lists many books I found only two reviews of one of them [15] [16], not enough for WP:AUTHOR. The article lists nothing else that suggests notability. So although there is visible evidence of UPE in the form of the block log of the article creator rather than (as so often) merely the unsubstantiated opinion of the nominator, I think we can delete on the basis of notability alone without considering the UPE. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:06, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @David Eppstein: Just to clarify, when you say "merely the unsubstantiated opinion of the nominator", you are referring to AfD nominators generally, and not me specifically, yes? BD2412 T 20:56, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Yes. I was intending to hold you up as a positive example, of someone whose accusations of UPE can be substantiated, unlike those other examples. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:24, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Thanks, much appreciated. BD2412 T 21:36, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I’ve reviewed and cleaned up many biography articles recently, and nearly every second article has one or two tags regarding sourcing, promotional tone, and so on. I don’t think that’s a valid reason for deletion. This specific article doesn’t read as promotional in its current form. The COI tag states, "It may require cleanup to comply with Wikipedia's content policies, particularly neutral point of view," but this article appears to have already been cleaned up, so I believe the tag can be removed. Whizkin (talk) 08:57, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:28, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Destra Corporation

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Basically per WP:WEBHOST. This article has been tagged as possibly having been "created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use" for over seven years with no resolution of that tag. Notable or not, Wikipedia should not maintain content that violates its terms of use for such a length of time. BD2412 T 02:52, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep The article is neutrally written and the company passes Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criteria. I see no evidence that it was "created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use". It is unlikely that the article was created or edited in return for payment as it looked like this (a small stub) in 2008 when it was placed in administration. Cunard (talk) 07:16, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

An interesting point. @Doc James: as the editor who added the UPE tag, what was your basis for doing so? BD2412 T 18:07, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here [17] and concerns with this editor.[18] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:20, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The company pass WP:SIGCOV and it was written from a neutral point of view, one of the core principle of Wikipedia Tesleemah (talk) 10:16, 19 August 2024
Keep. The tag can probably be removed, I don't see any COI issues. May have started off that way but it has no issues now IMO. PARAKANYAA (talk) 16:54, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I reviewed Doc James' links. I could not access the first one, Special:Undelete/Domenic Carosa. I accessed the second one, User talk:Miseauxnormes and found a lot of deletion notices. Based on these links, I still do not see evidence that these editors had a conflict of interest with Destra Corporation. It will need to be explained more clearly to me.
Even if those editors had a conflict of interest with the subject, the article was created by the established editor Lester (talk · contribs) who no one has accused of having a conflict of interest with the subject. There is no support in policy or precedent for deleting an article created by an established editor with no conflict of interest with the subject after some editors who are said have a conflict of interest with the subject contributed to that article.
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The result was keep‎. Daniel (talk) 04:24, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Danny Kennedy (speedway rider)

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Only primary sources provided. LibStar (talk) 03:10, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - No WP:SIGCOV about the guy Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 06:50, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The Evening Times from 1978 (here and here) states that they were the "Australian under-21 champion". It's not clear what Australian under-21 competition is being referred to, however this may go towards passing WP:NMOTORSPORT. TarnishedPath^talk 10:47, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Some coverage here and here; also found a brief bit from Old Bike Australasia two years ago ("Danny Kennedy, born in Ballarat in 1958, enjoyed seven seasons in UK from 1976 to 1982, the last four years riding for the Poole Pirates, where he was immensely popular. Sadly he died from a brain tumour in 1993."). What makes the book sources in the article primary? BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:35, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per TarnishedPath's and BeanieFan11's recommendations. SpacedFarmer (talk) 20:55, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Per BeanieFan11's and my comments above. TarnishedPath^talk 05:45, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Represented his nation. Multiple secondary sources available on British newspaper Archive, I have added three of them and there are plenty more available. Racingmanager (talk) 14:31, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. after article improvements and the nominator's change of opinion on this article. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:32, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ted Wang

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A WP:BEFORE did not reveal that the subject meets WP:SIGCOV. PROD was declined. TJMSmith (talk) 01:42, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Promotional. No SIGCOV or GNG met. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 01:48, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Move to draft I support moving the article to draft where it can be incubated and sources that indicated notability are added. There is little coverage for series leed they lauched, Also the article can be rewritten from a more neutral point of viewTesleemah 09:54, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I'll take a quick crack at it in about an hour. But if I can't find anything solid then I'll come back and vote for deletion. Dr vulpes (Talk) 03:06, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Dr vulpes. It's nice to see you back in AFDLand. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:56, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I've updated with multiple sources, removed all the unsourced material and any content that I couldn't find proper sources for. This was a fun clean up. Dr vulpes (Talk) 06:59, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: The article is good enough to pass WP:NBIO. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 02:19, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The improved article is sufficient to show notability. Meters (talk) 23:43, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment- in light of the recent improvements, I would withdraw this AfD (if I could) and vote keep. TJMSmith (talk) 02:08, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:42, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Timothy Williams (actor)

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I can't see that this has WP:SIGCOV in multiple independent reliable sources or that they meet WP:NACTOR. The article itself lists roles in multiple TV series and TV movies, however I can't see reliable sourcing to support the claims. The only independent reliable source which has SIGCOV I could find in an WP:BEFORE was this. TarnishedPath^talk 01:57, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: per nom. Not enough coverage to write a verifiable article and certainly not enough to establish notability. I can't find any significant coverage. The CBC article linked is about Tim Williams (actor), not this guy. C F A 💬 02:08, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the pick-up that the CBC article is about an entirely different person. TarnishedPath^talk 10:58, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Move to draft. Tag everything that is uncited as {{citation needed}} and tag everything that is cited to IMDb as {{better citation needed}}. BD2412 T 03:08, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Move to draft I support moving the article to draft where it can go incubated and sources added. Tesleemah 09:54, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Are there any sources that could be added though? This person's notability has not been established in nearly a decade. I doubt something big is going to happen in the next six months before it is deleted. C F A 💬 14:30, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What sources? If there are sources they could be added now. This article was created 10:52, 24 December 2015. Draftification should generally be used for newish articles, not articles which haven't demonstrated notability after almost 9 years. TarnishedPath^talk 10:58, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Draftifying an article this old is pointless. PARAKANYAA (talk) 16:53, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Per nom and per WP:DRAFTNO, articles older than 90 days shouldn't be moved to draft. M S Hassan 📬✍🏻 05:34, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:DRAFTNO does not say, ‘Articles older than 90 days shouldn’t be moved to draft.’ You may have been misunderstood it. It is a guideline for new page reviewers, stating, ‘Do not draftify articles older than 90 days without discussion through AfD. If there is consensus to draftify, then it will be draftified.’ GrabUp - Talk 11:09, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
While WP:DRAFTNO does pertain to new page reviewers, I do think the general idea that draftification should be used for newish articles holds. I don't think it's appropriate to draftify biographical articles which have failed to established the notability of their subject after almost nine years. TarnishedPath^talk 12:08, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was just here to clarify the WP:DRAFTNO; not commenting to the AfD. GrabUp - Talk 12:14, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I do not see a compelling reason to draft. Drafting is good when an article is not quite yet ready for main, but will or could be ready soon. I do not like to draft when there is a lack of sourcing and/or meeting the relevant notability guideline. If we draft, this article is likely to either end up back in main before it's ready (and then possible end up back at AFD), or sit in draft and end up deleted in six months. The subject does not meet notability and there is no indication they can or will do so in the near future. — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:06, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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