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Straight (magazine)

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Only source is the publisher himself. This[1] may be relevant either here or at Destroyer Magazine Doug Weller talk 15:51, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sexuality and gender and Sweden. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 16:06, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: It seems like there's a number of articles about Straight in some of the major Swedish newspapers, to be found in the Swedish media archive. I'll see if I can do something about this article in the next few days. /Julle (talk) 22:50, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. (This deletion discussion has been noted at Wikipediocracy.) I'll look here again to see whether Julle found anything, but the best source I found was this interview article in the tabloid Aftonbladet, which mentions it and confirms that it was started by QX (without naming the latter); however, it's mostly about Destroyer and Andersson. This 2012 English article in Out also merely mentions Straight in the context of Destroyer. There was also an interview article in Vice in 2012, and there's recent coverage of Andersson's projected PhD dissertation and a scholarly article that has been pulled by the publisher, including this article in the Daily Telegraph, and the Aftonbladet article provides a smidgen of biographical info, but I do not find sufficient biographical coverage to agree with the opinion expressed at Wikipediocracy that he himself has achieved notability, so I cannot advocate creating a BLP to which to redirect this. (The red link in our article was originally a link to the Karl Andersson disambiguation page; judging by their username the creator, Swekarl, has a conflict of interest with this Karl Andersson, so the red link should not be presumed to suggest notability.) Yngvadottir (talk) 23:28, 14 August 2022 (UTC) (Changed to Keep, see below)[reply]
Yngvadottir: I've taken a (first?) stab at the article now. I don't think we should conflate it with Karl Andersson – the magazine was published for a few years, and he wasn't the only editor-in-chief throughout its life. I'm not sure I would advocate a re-direct to a BLP even if we had one. Anyway, I've found some articles in Svenska Dagbladet and Sydsvenskan (two of the major respected Swedish newspapers, SvD based in Stockholm and Sydsvenskan the dominating newspaper in southern Sweden) I think are far better sources than the ones listed in this AfD so far. They can be accessed through Retriever/Mediearkivet, but if one lacks access, I've described length and which role Straight plays in them below. /Julle (talk) 16:05, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment so it was published for 3 years by QX [2]. Dagens Nyheter has a snippet describing its scope [3] and here it is confirmed that the print is, similar to QX, at 30 000 copies. While the coverage on Straight is lacking, a merger to the publisher could be argued, but we don't have an article on "QX förlag". I'm not sure that a translation of the svwp article would survive AfD since it relies heavily on QX.se as a source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Draken Bowser (talk • contribs) 10:08, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Draken Bowser: Do you have access to Retriever/Mediearkivet? I've added a couple of significant articles as sources (as well as a few shorter ones). If not, I've tried to briefly explain why I think they show notability below, but if you've got access to Mediearkivet you can check them out yourself. /Julle (talk) 15:59, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No, I looked through kb.se, Aftonbladet, Expressen and DN. So I overlooked the coverage in SvD. Maybe I should apply for access after all... Draken Bowser (talk) 17:04, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, the significant coverage is mainly in Svenska Dagbladet, who had a reporter who kept following the Swedish gay magazine scene in the late 90s and early 00s, and Sydsvenskan. I'd recommend applying for access – you can usually get a lot of things you can't get from kb.se if we're looking at the last 20–25 years. /Julle (talk) 18:37, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I have looked at the Swedish media archive, and I think there's enough here to meet our requirements. There are a whole bunch of shorter 300–400 word pieces, and I've used a couple of them as sources, but the best I think is the 900 word piece "Straight on! Karl Andersson tänker göra Sveriges kaxigaste bögtidning" in Svenska Dagbladet, focused entirely on Straight, from 29 October 1999, and "Tidningar utanför normen säljer", Sydsvenskan, 1750 words from 10 March 2001, where Straight is a significant part of the article. /Julle (talk) 15:57, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Julle Can you please add links to your sources? I couldn't find the first one I tried. Doug Weller talk 16:18, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Doug Weller: As far as I can tell, they aren't available online in a linkable way – few Swedish newspaper articles from the 90s or very early 00s are. I've been able to access them through w:sv:Mediearkivet. I'd link to them if I could do so in any meaningful way, but unless you've got access to the Swedish newspaper archive I'd recommend treating them like you would do with print sources. /Julle (talk) 16:22, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Changing my !vote based on extended coverage found in reliable sources by Julle (and used to expand the article). Assuming good faith that these sources are visible with appropriate on- or offline access. Yngvadottir (talk) 21:21, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep the coverage in reliable sources seems sufficient. Draken Bowser (talk) 21:56, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, there is enough coverage. --Gilgul Kaful (talk) 08:04, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]