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August 5
Category:Parks and outdoor spaces in Dedham, Massachusetts
- Nominator's rationale: To match other similar categories. User:Namiba 19:11, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak oppose As the creator I don't feel terribly strongly about this, but will point out that the category contains more than just parks. One article is about a tree, and the other about a canal. --Slugger O'Toole (talk) 01:13, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Support per nomination. –Aidan721 (talk) 00:54, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Yuto Adachi
- Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary level of categorization for a single subcategory. WP:OCEPON. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 18:31, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Russian actors in gay pornographic films
- Nominator's rationale: Only has one person in this category. Merge with Category:Russian male pornographic film actors, the parent category which only has one person in (+ this subcat) before deleting. QueenofBithynia (talk) 15:33, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Aircraft manufacturers of Austria-Hungary
- Nominator's rationale: merge, only two articles, and we do not have a developed tree of aircraft manufacturers by former country. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:34, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- I think that would make it needlessly complicated. Hungary kept a status as a semi-independent kingdom within the composite state of Austria-Hungary, much more so than e.g. Bohemia, so there would not be much harm in having them added to Hungarian categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:49, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ryerson University
- Nominator's rationale: The university has recently changed its name. This is the fifth name the university has had in its history (Ryerson Institute of Technology (1948–1966). Ryerson Polytechnical Institute (1966–1993), Ryerson Polytechnic University (1993–2001), Ryerson University (2001-2022), and now Toronto Metropolitan University) and there are not separate categories for each of the previous names (eg the principal of the Ryerson Institute of Technology is in the cat Category:Presidents of Ryerson University as are the presidents of Ryerson Polytechnical Institute and Ryerson Polytechnic University). See CTV News:Ryerson University announces its new name. Horatio Bumblebee (talk) 13:41, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose - Clearly, nearly every reference to this institution--until last year--refers to "Ryerson". Just because the university changed its name, does not change that nearly every source on every biography mentions "Ryerson". I'm not sure if categories can be redirected, but this would certainly preserve the integrity and correctness of the category names as they appear on articles. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:28, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Response - @Magnolia677: That's immaterial and irrelevant. Reliable sources establish that Ryerson University has changed its name to Toronto Metropolitan University. That means anything that had to do with Ryerson University (under that name or its prior names) falls under the Toronto Metropolitan University category. You don't need separate sources that reiterate that fact for each individual Ryerson professor, alumni, or building ie you don't need a source that says Professor X taught at Ryerson University which has since changed its name to TMU. It's sufficient that there is a general and reliable source in the parent Toronto Metropolitan University article that establishes the name change. Redirecting the category neither enhances nor diminishes the "integrity and correctness" of the article - how would it when it doesn't become part of the history of the article? Having a reliable source in the parent article about the university establishes that "integrity and correctness". Horatio Bumblebee (talk) 22:26, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. It's the same institution, with a continuous history and merely a change of name, so there's no pressing need to maintain two separate category trees for what's fundamentally the same thing. If this had merged with a different institution to create a new TMU that had two predecessor institutions, then separate categories might stay necessary, but that's not what happened. And we also have a rule that when a thing changes its name, sources published after the name change carry more weight than sources published before the name change. And while categories can be redirected for "finding the new category" purposes, articles can't be left sitting in the old redirected category name for "integrity and correctness" purposes -- but since there's nothing "unintegritous" (?) or incorrect about a university changing its name, that's no sort of problem. Bearcat (talk) 22:00, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Support -- This follows the convention on alumni categories, which can usefully be applied to the rest. The renaming needs to be mentions in a headnote in each case. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:29, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose. All of the alumni graduated from Ryerson, not this new name. --Gilgul Kaful (talk) 07:53, 10 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Bibliographies of explorations
- Nominator's rationale: Cat had only one entry since 2011 about the Lewis and Clark expedition, mvd entry to Bibliographies of history cat. Now empty. Since it has only had one entry since 2011 it is unlikely to be needed. // Timothy :: talk 10:26, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- I know. I wish editors would just wait for CFDs to close before they take action. It nullifies the point of even having a discussion. Liz Read! Talk! 01:24, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Incan politicians
- Nominator's rationale: The designation "Inca" doesn't really apply for most individuals listed as the Inca people haven't existed for centuries. The only actual Incans listed are Justo Sahuaraura Inca, Pachacuti, and one of the three Tupacs. For these, Category:Inca emperors already fits. Better to delete a recategorize. Perhaps Category:Aymara politicians, Category:Quechua politicians, etc., could be created instead. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 03:20, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
