Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sfacets

Sfacets

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For archived investigations, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sfacets/Archive.

Prior SSP or RFCU cases may exist for this user:

Requests for checkuser/Case/Sfacets

09 October 2014

– A checkuser has declined a request for CheckUser, and the case is now awaiting a behavioural investigation.

Suspected sockpuppets

Couchbeing (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Zambelo (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

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Evidence was collected by AndyTheGrump; I'm sure Andy doesn't mind if I summarize here. All three are/were active editors in the NRM (New Religious Movement) field. Sfacets was blocked in 2008 (for "exhausting the community's patience"), and Couchbeing was blocked for socking. Zambelo caught everyone's attention with their behavior in the NRM field, and Andy discovered that besides all the cult stuff Zambelo and Sfacets also share an interest in Sahaja Yoga and Bohemia (musician): both "patrol" the Bohemia article (Sfacets: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5]; Zambelo [6], [7], [8]). That's already a pretty unlikely combination, but most damning is the simple article overlap, which is quite astounding: most of those articles are NRM-related articles, including such esoteric articles as Jean-Marie Abgrall

I don't know if Andy has anything to add; personally I am convinced that these are the same. Drmies (talk) 03:14, 9 October 2014 (UTC) Drmies (talk) 03:14, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Adding to this, it is noticeable that Sfacets' and Zambelo's edits also overlap on simple.wikipedia - both edited their Cult and Heaven's Gate articles. Furthermore, Couchbeing (Sfacets' sock) edited our Hillsong Church article, as did Zambelo - and this isn't a cult-related topic as far as I can see. To my mind it is the 'non-cult' overlap that is hardest to explain away. Unrelated contributors, both editing cult-related topics - while also sharing an interest in a Pakistani American rapper, and an Australian Pentecostal church? Coincidence seems the least plausible explanation to me... AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:54, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

More non-cult Sfacets/Zambelo overlaps from the User compare report: Pune, ~~Werner Erhard~~. AndyTheGrump (talk) 03:23, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, or just maybe I hd a look at that user's edit history? But you don't want to consider that, you want to have me banned in any way possible. Your conduct here is disgusting. Zambelo; talk 07:33, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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@Drmies: Sfacets and Couchbeing haven't edited since 2008 and are therefore stale for CU purposes. There is no technical data that can be used to compare against Zambelo. Any connection made will need to be based on behavioural evidence.--Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 18:33, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Ponyo. Sorry, that makes sense. Drmies (talk) 19:49, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]