@ExclusiveEditor:. There are so many templates and specialist coding that it can be difficult to say which is most important. It depends a lot on the topics you are interested in. For example, I edit mainly for chemicals, so {{Chembox}} is a vital one for me, while someone doing biographies will use {{Infobox person}}. Try reading WP:TEMPLATE and note that many individual template pages say how many times they are used: Template:Infobox person is in about 405,000 pages! Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:35, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
My User Contributions when I am logged in generates no content only this message: "The filter provided no history matches"
When I am logged in to my account, I am no longer able to access the list of my Contributions. I can only access it if I am logged out. Is it possible I accidently added an edit filter when I recently visited my Preference page? Thanks. The Contributions option is so useful! Oceanflynn (talk) 16:24, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oceanflynn, click the "Search for contributions" button to expand it if it is not already expanded. To check all the contributions, the 'User:' field should have your username, the 'Namespace' field should have 'all' selected, and rest all the fields and tickboxes should be empty. Then, click "search". See if this helps. Lightbluerain❄ (Talk | contribs)12:24, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Actor Jose Perez
I've been trying to write a page about the character actor Jose Perez and it keeps being rejected. I sincerely believe I've thoroughly documented his career and shown it's notability and I don't want to submit and be rejected again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jose_Perez_(actor) I'm hoping someone here can help me understand what the problem is so I can fix it. Perrydigm (talk) 00:12, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Perrydigm, welcome to the Teahouse! Articles on Wikipedia have to be written from a WP:NPOV, not like a article in the New York Times. There is a standard for neutrality that articles must meet.
Second, a lot of the sources are not reliable or do not contribute to notability. Almost all of the references are from some list of stuff, which doesn't demonstrate notability. For some of the other ones, notability isn't established by a passing mention unfortunately. Then there is the fandom.com citation, which is not reliable, as it is also a Wiki. You should read the general notability guidelines.
Also, a little secret: It's much easier to start on Wikipedia with something small. A new article is very, very hard to accomplish. I would recommend starting with smaller tasks such as copy edit or categorization. There is a list of tasks at WP:TASKCENTER. I, personally, started with commenting out unused list defined references. Trust me, it's much easier to start this way. Most, if not all, of the editors you see here today had beginnings doing basic copy edit, and some still do now. Thank you for reading this!Sungodtemple a tcg fan!!1!11!! (talk) 01:06, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Well thank you Sungodtemple, but A)I am not just starting here. I have created two new articles in the past, so I am not unaware of the criteria or the difficulty. I just seem to be having particular trouble convincing reviewers they are being met for this one. And B) I'm not sure how to make the point that the productions he performed in received excellent reviews (which I document with references) from a more Neutral POV. They were good reviews. That's not neutral.
C)The notability criteria for entertainers are:
"Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions."
He acted in eighteen 'big-screen' movies, which between them won 2 Emmys, 3 Golden Globes and were nominated for 2 Oscars and 3 more Golden Globes. I think that constitutes "multiple" and the Emmys and GoldenGlobes would seem to indicate notability. And he was in the principle cast for two different TV shows. That is a "significant role".
"Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following."
I can't attest to his personal following, but at least one of the films he acted in is considered a "cult classic".
"Has made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment."
I can't attest to "unique" or "innovative" personal contributions, but many of the productions he performed in were certainly groundbreaking (Steambath, The Way of The Gun, Eastside Westside).
What I think is indisputable, however is that his contributions have been "prolific". How can anybody possibly argue that over 980 performances on Broadway, over 400 performances off-Broadway, dozens of television episodes in ten different TV series, including one in which he had second-billing and appeared in every episode (On the Rocks), as he did in Calucci's Department (where he got third billing) and eighteen 'big-screen' movies isn't "prolific"?
Is there some doubt as to whether he actually acted in all these productions?
Is there some way to more "reliably" document his participation in all those productions that would be more persuasive? There aren't a whole lot of sources other than IMDB, etc. for this sort of information that I'm aware of. What am I missing?
Perrydigm a sad fact of life is that a lot of online sources aren't considered reliable, including the Internet Movie Database. I've written articles about actors, and editors come along after the article's been published and remove my occasional IMDd reference. Try to find published-in-book-form reliable references. And even though you love Calucci's Department, just say Jose Perez was in it, not that it was and much-beloved but ill-fated show. Here's a reference I found for you:
Perez played Ramon Gonzales in Calucci's Department.(use proper referencing format) Tim Brooks and Earle Marsh, The Complete Directory to Prime Time Network and TV Shows 1946 – Present, Ballantine Books, 1979, page 98.
You referenced a New York Times article about the show. Nice article, but Perez isn't mentioned in it, so it doesn't help him to be notable. If you have a local library that's now open, and it has a good reference book section, try to find books listing Perez's movie roles. For each one you find there's a good reference source.
It seems to be important to you to say that The Way of the Gun is a cult classic, but if that hinders you getting a neutral-tone article accepted, just write that Perez was in the film, and find a good reference that says so.
I'm a published author, and I like to be creative, and to let people know my opinions of certain things. But I can't do that on Wikipedia. I keep everything neutral, and if I ever write that something's considered excellent, then I'm giving a direct quote from a reliable published source. It is difficult for me to write a good Wikipedia article, because it often takes me six or more months to find good references. But if I want to have a good online source of information on a subject that's important to me I don't publish the article until I'm confident everything in it will pass muster with most reviewing editors. Best wishes in editing your draft article. Karenthewriter (talk) 05:49, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think I get it now, though I have to admit I think it's pretty bizarre that something that is clearly fact (like that he was in all those productions) is rejected because of technicalities of of the reference process. I mean it's not like clips of him performing are not currently viewable on YouTube! It seems like a Kafkaesque version of "if a tree falls in the forest and isn't properly documented, it didn't actually fall", even if the tree is lying directly in front of the questioner...
Just for the record, it's not that I'm actually all that big of a fan of Calucci's Department. I originally started doing this because I went looking for info on the actor who played "God" in Steambath, and realized as I looked into it that there was something of a theme to his work, i.e. that he fairly consistently, played significant but non-top-billed roles in shows that got great reviews, but were consistently ridiculously unlucky and Calucci is just the epitome of that (placed in a time-slot up against Sanford & Son during a season when there was a writers strike, lol!).
Well, whatever, I really appreciate the explanation (and the extra citation!)!
Los Angeles Philharmonic Institute
Adding Carolyn Waters Broe to Notable Alumni
I am wondering if anyone in Wikipedia: Teahouse is talented at making additions to articles? I was a violist in the Los Angles Philharmonic Institute Orchestra the very first year in the summer of 1982 under the direction of Leonard Bernstein. It was an amazing experience that I will never forget! Bernstein was absolutely inspiring. I worked with several top celebrity conductors that summer and many of the conducting associates as well. I became the Conductor and Artistic Director of the Four Seasons Orchestra of Scottsdale, Arizona, and the Principal Violist of the Scottsdale Philharmonic. Bernstein helped me to understand the importance of communication with the orchestra members as a conductor. The URL of the LA Philharmonic Institute article is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Philharmonic_Institute. The URL of the Wikipedia article on me is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolyn_Waters_Broe. There are pictures of me talking to conductor Christopher Hogwood and working with the Principal Violist of the Los Angeles Philharmonic Jan Halinka. He has long since passed away. I was a student of LA Philharmonic violist Jerry Epstein in the mid-1970s at UC Irvine, CA, who passed away a couple of summers ago after forty-three years with them! It is possible that there is a program in the LA Philharmonic Archives from 1982 with my name listed as Carolyn Broe https://www.laphil.com/about/la-phil/archives-services.
The backlog of 5,000+ drafts is not a queue. Reviewers pick what they want to review next. Could be days, weeks, or (sadly) months. Teahouse hosts are not necessarily also reviewers. David notMD (talk) 10:34, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Troy26Castillo This is the second time you created a draft for a song by BGYO very shortly after the songs' release date (see The Light (BGYO song). And you are extremely knowledgeable about small details. Similar situation for the article about the group BGYO and an article about the launch of the band Be The Light: The BGYO Launch. (Really? An article about the band's launch, separate from the article about the band?) What, if any, are your connections to the group? If paid, that information belongs on your User page. David notMD (talk) 10:41, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@David notMD: Hello sir, regarding this matter, I am only a fan but I am not paid in doing these articles. I don't have any connections with them personally even with the management. It saddens me reading your comment sir. Because I am not earning in doing these things. That is why, I don't understand why there is comment in the article of being undisclosed paid. And also sir, if there were things that I need to improve in the article I am revising it to make it better. But, please sir don't say that I am being paid for this. I respect your opinion sir. Thank you also. Troy26Castillo (talk) 12:41, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@David notMD: With all due respect, but let me inform you sir that I have nothing to disclosed because I am not paid in doing this article. Why I am being accused of something which I haven't done in the first place. Troy26Castillo (talk) 13:00, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Asking an editor if they have a personal connection or are in a paid relationship is a common, near-standard question to ask editors who appear to have a single purpose. For the four articles I named (the group, the launch of the group, the two songs - all of which you created), and in addition for Pinoy pop and 2021 in Philippine music you had made between 500 and 1000 edits about BGYO. My query was rational. I see that on your User page you have added a declaration of not PAID, which was the appropriate thing to do. It leaves not answered whether you have any personal connection to the music group, which would fall under conflict-of-interest. David notMD (talk) 15:14, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@David notMD: Sir, I don't have any personal connection with any of the articles and edits i did here in Wikipedia. I also mentioned it on my user page. But, still I have to be thankful for you in this reminder. At least I know these things now. Lastly, just to be clear I am not connected personally with them or with any articles i did here.Troy26Castillo (talk) 16:06, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there 89.80. IPs are allowed to have user pages, however as IP users can't create accounts, they generally don't. It's much better to create an account as, technically, IP addresses are not people and simply numerical values. This means a user page could be yours one day and not be if you have a dynamic IP. As IP signatures also link to your contributions page, it is likely that having a user page will not have much merit. — Berrely • Talk∕Contribs10:49, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
My rejected edits involved patents belonging to Jet Black, of the Stranglers Rock Band. The other edit was in connection with the Underwater Wheelchair. by Sue Austin.
I have tried to make edits in connection with two people who I have worked for. They are both still alive, and I worked on their patents, and got them granted. Because I did not know how to edit, I finished up being "told off" for editing, and the edits were removed. How I can edit properly, so that my edits are not removed. The first edit was in connection with the patent which I worked on for Jet Black, of the Stranglers Rock Band. The other was in connection with the Underwater Wheelchair, invented by by Sue Austin. I placed my website on both edits. Was that OK? I can give you my further details if required. This question is in response to the email I received from Wikipedia. Creativeinventor (talk) 12:06, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Creativeinventor: welcome to the Teahouse. Since you have a connection to these people, and since it is your own website you are adding, you should avoid making those edits yourself. Instead, you should place an edit request on the talk pages of the articles (Talk:Jet Black and Talk:Sue Austin respectively). To place an edit request, place the text {{edit request}} (including the curly brackets) on the talk page, and below that, describe the change you would like to make to the article. There is a step-by-step description of how to do it on this page.
Both articles state that the subject have a patent, with a reference to the patents in question. Your first person addition ("I am pleased to be able to say that I worked with Sue on the preparation of the Patent...") does not belong in the articles. The only way you could be mentioned by name is if there is a publication not connected to you, i.e., not your website, that states that you were a contributor to the patent application processes. David notMD (talk) 15:33, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
****ATTENTION ADMIN****
I have submitted a request for IMMEDIATE Username change from Joseph.M.Novotny31 to "The Messenger". This is a THEOLOGICAL philosophical document that will be looked at by many scholars and the likes. This was a VIOLATION of my philosophy and goes against the message. Please remove my screw up immediately as the thread is locked for me.Joseph.M.Novotny31 (talk) 13:41, 2 May 2021 (UTC) Joseph.M.Novotny31 (talk) 13:41, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Michele Santana Italiano, and welcome to the Teahouse. You appear to have submitted it for review seven minutes before the question above, so I'm a bit puzzled. Anyway, it is now in the pile for review (it is not a queue); but at present it has zero chance of being accepted, because it has no references at all - please see REFB - and so does not establish notability. It is possible that some of the links you have put as "external links" will work as references, but since you have presented them in a way that does not show any useful information about them, I can't tell without going into them. I also note that your language is not neutral or encyclopaedic: "carries with pride his father's name" is inappropriate, as is "grew with that feeling that there was a huge world to be discovered and explored". Remember that a Wikipedia article is not in any way for the benefit of the subject, and Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. --ColinFine (talk) 16:48, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Ahthga Yram, and welcome to the Teahouse. Your signature is disruptive, and you should change it immediately. If you want to discuss the appropriateness of the characters, there is probably an appropriate WP:WikiProject, but since Draft:List of Genshin Impact characters (which I assume you're talking about) does not even indicate what medium this is, or bother to wikilink the title, I'm not inclined to go looking for one for you. --ColinFine (talk) 16:59, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
On the page for Nov 11, the birth of John Reilly in the year 1934 is missing.
On the page for Jan 9, the death of John Reilly in the year 2021 is missing.
And I've added Reilly's death to Jan 9, but I've not added his birth, because I am not satisfied that we have a reliable source for his birthday. Almost all the sources are obituaries, most of them originally seem to have reported his age as 84, and one of them said that they got his birth date from Wikipedia. Only one of them (USA Today) seems to have his birthdate, and I suspect that they got that from Wikipedia, and originally said 1936 just as Wikipedia did until 11 January.
How to get help from other editors on pages with biased contributors?
Hi - I'm noticing a few pages, like Mark Twitchell (a page for a serial killer, who someone keeps describing as an "artist"), Yogi Bhajan, and others. The Yogi Bhajan page now has a "conflict of interest" warning. Are there other means to prevent this kind of biased editing?
Hello, Cisternet. Mark Twitchell is not a serial killer although he may have wanted to be. He murdered one person, and tried to kill a second person. The article focuses almost entirely on his crimes, and I do not see him described as an artist currently. The other article is Harbhajan Singh Khalsa, and its talk page has extensive discussions of conflict of interest. It is a messy and sad story. In all cases, the place to begin discussion of problems with an article is the talk page of the article. There are many forms of dispute resolution available. Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard may be of interest to you. Cullen328Let's discuss it18:05, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Cullen328 (talk) 17:48, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi - good point - not a serial killer, rather convicted murderer. His page doesn't currently say "artist", because I removed it today - twice. The same editor, who has no about page, keeps adding it back.[reply]
reinstating deleted categories (Asian American librarians)
I'm looking for advice around procedures and etiquette for requesting a category be reinstated.
The situation: the category "Asian American librarians" was nominated for deletion in December 2020. I don't think there was a clear consensus to change the category based on that discussion, but it was nonetheless revised to "American librarians of Asian descent," a container category with currently two subcategories: "American librarians of Japanese descent" and "American librarians of Chinese descent". Unfortunately, another subcategory, "American librarians of Korean descent," was nominated for deletion in January 2021 and subsequently deleted. I don't understand how a container category can be maintained with integrity if the subcategories are deleted.
The rationale for maintaining this occupation + ethnicity category is best demonstrated by the existence since 1980 of an organization dedicated to serving the needs of this group, the Asian Pacific American Librarians Association. This is a category that would be difficult to replicate via queries, since a query would need to include the intersection of Asian Americans and multiple Pacific Islander American identities (for example, American Samoan librarians, Native Hawaiian librarians, etc., etc.). Despite the invocation of WP:OCEGRS, this is not a "trivial" intersection to the members of this group! There are currently at least 13 articles in Wikipedia that should be brought together by an "Asian American librarians" category.
My questions: Does the Wikipedia:Deletion review process also work for categories? I only see information about the deletion of pages there. I see that I need to "inform the editor who closed the deletion discussion" as part of the deletion review process, but does that mean the discussion of the original change to a container category, or the discussion of the deletion of the subcategory "American librarians of Korean descent"? The original change from a standalone category to a container category sets these subcategories up for frequent deletion discussions, as the numbers in subcategories such as "Micronesian American librarians" will always be challenged by WP:SMALL, so I think this situation needs to be reviewed as a whole. I appreciate any help! Skvader (talk) 17:39, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Where to get a second opinion?
I have no idea how to deal with Awad Haj Ali, I've raised the problem in the talk page, but what come next?
I'm not confident enough on my understanding of the rules to delete content, and I feel like this could go against WP:AGF.
Obviously by asking the question I raise attention on the article to get a second opinion, but my understanding is that this is not the place to ask this.
So my question is: is there a place where I can ask for a second opinion? 37.164.187.165 (talk) 18:08, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello 37.164, good question. I recommend reading WP:BLP, WP:BOLD and WP:BRD. WP:BLPN may be the place to ask next. Since WP has millions of articles and thousands of active editors, many talkpages (and articles) have few if any watchers, but they are the place to start, like you did. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:46, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I see that there have been two edits to reduce a lot of extraneous information, so that looks much better. I have two thoughts: One, the user appears to have a close connection (and therefore more prone to promotional content) and most of the information is not cited. I am going to take a look at whether I can find sources - and if not remove uncited content.–CaroleHenson (talk) 18:56, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Thanks for drawing our attention to this. I've removed almost all of the content because we don't list indiscriminate information and none of it was the sort of thing usually considered important enough to mention (except that a short "Selected publications" section of maybe 5-10 of the most important publications could reintroduce some of the "Publications" section). Once you get more confident, you can make such changes unilaterally. I think, unfortunately, the page creator was likely Ali himself or someone else with a conflict of interest as the editor has no contributions outside this topic. But Ali does look notable at a first impression.
To grab more attention, you've found one method (asking at the Teahouse) and I'm agreed with Gråbergs Gråa Sång that WP:BLPN (the biography of living persons noticeboard) is likely the best venue for this. Sometimes there would be an active WikiProject if you're looking for subject specialists (like if it was military history-related, I'd go to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history because I know there are a lot of experienced editors there). The key is to remember you've asked the question (maybe make a note of it) and ask somewhere else if you don't get a response where you post initially. — Bilorv (talk) 18:59, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I took a stab at adding pronunciation for Michie Tavern, based on a tag on the article asking for pronunciation. I used an online tool to create the IPA format + added text about how Michie is pronounced "Mickey" from a source. I looked at Help:IPA and {{IPA}}, but I am not at all sure that I have it right:
code in article: (Pron: "Mickey" {{ipa|/mɪtʃɪ tævɚn/}})
what it looks like to readers: (Pron: "Mickey" /mɪtʃɪ tævɚn/)
That looks a little contradictory to me. The English pronunciation of "Mickey" is /mɪkɪ/, without a /tʃ/ sound. Where is the source on the pronunciation of "Michie Tavern"? I don't think "tavern" needs to be transcribed in IPA, it is a common enough word in English. --bonadeacontributionstalk19:10, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Bonadea Oh, thanks so much. If I change it then to (Pron: {{ipa|/mɪkɪ/}}), does that work?
No, Bonadea and CaroleHenson, "Mickey" isn't /mɪkɪ/ but instead /ˈmɪki/. The thing that looks like an apostrophe (but isn't one) shows that the first syllable is the stressed one; and note that the two vowels are given different letters (because they're different vowels). Help:IPA/English is pretty good, but its section on dialect variation is (necessarily) long and hard to navigate; I think it's better to go straight to International Phonetic Alphabet chart for English dialects. I don't know how "Michie" is pronounced; if it rhymes with "itchy", then /ˈmɪt͡ʃi/. Incidentally, if there's ever a complication in writing IPA, you might ask at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language. -- Hoary (talk) 00:24, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello;
I rewrite my references got inspired from other Iranian’s pages and now I think it’s reliable enough as I use news sites. Can you please re-review it and accept it if possible. I’ll thank you forever🙏🏽. Atena ak2 (talk) 19:40, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Atena ak2 While a few Teahouse hosts are also reviewers, asking here does not move a draft to a faster review. You have resubmitted the draft after addressing the comments of the declining reviewer. All you can do now is wait. David notMD (talk) 11:50, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
new editor/seeking to clarify Derik Chauvin lead
I am new..I`m trying to clarify something in the Derek Chauvin article..I`m not trying to edit it I`m just trying to point out what I see as an obvious grammatical error in the first sentence which reads Derick Chauvin he is an " American former police officer " which I believe is grammatically incorrect and should read " former American police officer "...
I`m not trying to prove a point or offend anyone it just appears to me to be grammatically incorrect.
That being said I have no desire to edit any Wikipedia article..I`ve pointed out something that seems obvious however the editors seem to have a problem with it and as far as I can tell this is non controversial and should be viewed accordingly..is there anyway to fix this ?
thanks Forrestgump420 (talk) 20:18, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This is my account..I don`t generally log in as I don`t generally edit articles although I do sometimes edit talk pages..if you read the paragraph I`m talking about that is me suggesting making the change Forrestgump420 (talk) 21:37, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Forrestgump420, as I read it, your proposed edit says that Chauvin has lost his American citizenship as well as his police job. That is both incorrect and misleading, so I would oppose your change. Chauvin is still an American citizen. Cullen328Let's discuss it01:56, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Cullen. "American former police officer" suggests that he's American, and was once a police officer. "Former American police officer" suggests that he's still a police officer but has emigrated. Maproom (talk) 07:02, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Please read the eighth paragraph of the Wikipedia article on adjectives regarding the order of adjectives in English Adjective#Order as well as the Cambridge dictionary site https://dictionary.cambridge.org/grammar/british-grammar/adjectives-order the Oxford dictionary says the same thing except for one slight variation ..the Oxford site requires a paid subscription to access but there are numerous other sites that are reliable and also say the same thing..there is a specific accepted order in English to to the placement of adjectives in sentences starting with opinion which is vague and general to specific with origin before material which proceeds the final limiter which proceeds the object (noun) in this case the word officer Forrestgump420 (talk) 22:39, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have a sort of visual bug I want to report that appears in the android app when reading articles. Where is the right place to report this stuff?
I noticed this bug while looking at the German version of the "Deaths in 2021" page, but I've noticed it on other pages since. The problem is that I'm using the dark mode which makes all the text white. In some tables however, every other row has a white background. Despite that, the text stays white, making it practically invisible.
If you could tell me where to report this problem, or explain to me why it's not a problem at all and I'm just stupid, either ne would be apprechiated :D VonFuzzius (talk) 22:29, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, VonFuzzius. I edit with Android smartphones 99+% of the time, and I use the fully functional desktop site. In my opinion, the Android app is buggy and not fully functional. If I was the King of Wikipedia, I would shut it down. Cullen328Let's discuss it02:06, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Personal attacks (by calling names and describing bad on editors)
If an editor called names (ex. abusive) on other editors, it will be assumed as WP:NPA issue? BTW, if describing an editor bad, it is a NPA issue? ----Rdp060707|talk02:12, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If an editor abuses another editor, it's a personal attack. Bad editors exist. If I call one of them a "bad editor", with a satisfactory explanation, this isn't abuse and isn't a personal attack. -- Hoary (talk) 02:38, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You ask two questions. I don't know what the second means, because I don't know what you mean by "surface". Perhaps you could rephrase it. As for the first one, if something is lacking in an article and you can provide reliable, independent, published sources for it, then normally you can either add it to the article or suggest on the article's talk page that it should be added to the article. (Exceptions include trivia and material that's potentially libelous.) -- Hoary (talk) 02:42, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
it seems like you wanted to delete the contents of the article Pallar, and have it redirect to Devendrakula Velalar. While I believe you have been acting in good faith based on this news by The Hindu, your action was a bit too bold: The news said that several groups like the Pallar would now be grouped under a new name; but that doesn't mean that the subgroup doesn't exist any more. Simply deleting the content from that article removes information from Wikipedia that others might find helpful – even if it isn't up-to-date. We are not a newspaper, and e.g. you would probably not suggest we delete the article about the Pala Empire, and have it redirect to India, simply because the Pala empire is no more?
Hi everyone,
I am new to the wikipedia community. As you guys might know recently India became the worst-hit country by Covid-19 so I decided to create a new page having a compilation of resources because wikipedia is a collaborative platform so the list can be expanded but As a user pointed out it was contrary to purpose of wikipedia. So can anyone suggest other wiki's which may provide the appropriate platform.
Thanking You in Advance. Ihcookies (talk) 05:24, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Ihcookies! Welcome to Wikipedia! Could you elaborate more on what you meant by compilation of resources? What kind of resources are we talking about? Cheers! SunDawn (talk) 05:41, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the Reply SunDawn and Maresa63 Actually it was a list of various Government and NGO's websites and helplines of various states which are helping people to find hospitals and oxygen cylinders. Condition here is truly horrifying. Don't want to panic you though. I wanted to help the people in need as wikipedia is a wiki i.e it is collaborative so the article can grow But I am now aware that such articles are not meant for wikipedia. So can you suggest any other wiki which may allow such info to be shared it's okay if none are available I may find other ways to help by such as by making a blog.
Not sure why addition to article was not published--have not had problem before
I have twice attempted to add neutral, cited information to the Wikipedia article titled, Society of Classical Poets.
My text did not appear and I do not understand why . . . what did I do wrong? Any help would be appreciated.
For the content you appear to want to add to the article, a Wikipedia article cannot be used as a reference in a Wikipedia article. You will need a different ref for A.M. Jester. When you add content to the article, do not add your signature, as signing is for Talk pages. David notMD (talk) 11:15, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
FANDOM user here! Categories are deleted by either removing themselves at the bottom of a page, or removing templates that adds them into the page, this was originally a question here, but the original poster seek further clarification here. I need to state this again, FANDOM and Wikipedia are different, especially because FANDOM uses an outdated version of MW and Wikipedia has it's own extensions. Cheers ~ Headquarter8302 a.k.a Mark125.167.115.35 (talk) 07:35, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Different websites, different software. I don't think we can help you further. This page is for help with using and editing Wikipedia.--Shantavira|feed me09:18, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'll ignore the "there", as Shantavira suggests. As for the "here" and the "why", categories need to be deleted, and I suppose that it was decided years ago that deleting them wasn't something so drastic that a mere administrator shouldn't be entrusted with it. For the "here" and the "how", when administrators view a category, one section of their menu, titled "Edit", lists four options, of which one is "Delete". Suppose I sleepily/drunkenly/stupidly delete a category. Doing this doesn't affect anything belonging to that category, other than changing the color of the link to the now-deleted category. I (or anyone else) can simply re-create the stupidly deleted category, whereupon everything works as it did before my stupid deletion. -- Hoary (talk) 09:38, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Firestar464: I'm not aware of any relevant technical differences between Wikipedia and Fandom in deleting categories. A page is removed from a category by removing the category code from the page. See Help:Category#Putting pages into categories. A category page is deleted by administrators like other pages. Pages will be shown in the category whether or not there is a category page. MediaWiki does not have a method to remove all pages from a category without editing them one at a time. The English Wikipedia has a bot which can be requested to remove a category from all the pages when the category is deleted. I don't know whether Fandom wikis have such bots. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:46, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Them vandalism cats be uncool cats. To take care of them, admins let the dogs out. ... (But on the serious side, categories do seem to be well policed on WP, I just don’t know what tools are used to monitor them.) — Pelagic ( messages ) – (22:51 Tue 04, AEST) 12:51, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
An article I think is getting into Wikia/fandom territory
Hey all.
There is an article - I won't name just yet - which I suspect is veering into Wikia/fandom territory rather than Wikipedia 'standard'. What's the best way to deal with this: message editors en masse? Highlight it on a noticeboard somewhere? I'm wary of where my intervention might go, because if it results in an AfD or similar I fear for the dominoes it might push over, but all the same, it's got all the signs of a page being used as a blog/CRUFT-adjacent article and that has started to get out of hand. Thanks x doktorbwordsdeeds12:03, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Gandalf the Groovy: See Help:Translation for more information. Many of the articles here have been translated from other-language Wikipedias. Some important things to keep in mind are to make sure that the subject meets the English Wikipedia's notability guidelines, that your translated article is supported by reliable, independent sources, and that you properly attribute the original source by following the instructions at Help:Translation#License requirements. Since you are already extended-confirmed, you may also be interested in trying out the content translation tool. DanCherek (talk) 13:22, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Well, as it goes, Wikipedia is really everything Wikia is not, if I understand the latter correctly. Wikia allows for much more WP:CRUFT and fandom theories with little to no citations or proof, and the templates are different (or not loaded into the background so don't function.). If you want to run wild creating articles for the hell of it, that's not Wikipedia. If you want to make every character in Show X important enough for stand-alone articles and theories, that's not Wikipedia either. doktorbwordsdeeds13:18, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I do actually understand all of that. What I mean was my experience editing on Fandom. I know that the rules are very different on Wikipedia compared to Fnadom but I feel like the editing process is similar (what I mean is how you edit articles). Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 13:23, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Knowledge of how to use wikicode is pretty transferable throughout wikis as most of them use rather up-to-date versions of Mediawiki. Can't say the same for TV Tropes, though... —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:33, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This user, DigiCloudPOS, has seemingly been advertising his user page. I changed the page to a draft. What should we do? From Burgundian Feudalism (talk)
Hello!
I was wondering if you guys had a page that needs cleanup that I know about. I know about Nuclear science and physics.
Thanks, Midknight Midknight1342 (talk) 15:06, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
As you flit from article to article, look at the top of the Talk pages. There, you will see the articles' current rating. Stubs and Starts are at the need-work end. Above those, it ascends to C-class, B-class, Good article and Featured article. As you are just starting out, I recommend leaving those alone, as they are the ends products of lots of editors having made improvements. Also, you need to know that for the higher ranked articles, many editors have those on their 'Watch lists', meaning that any time an article is edited, they get a notification. This could lead to your edits being reverted (reversed) for cause. Remember that for every edit, write a concise summary of what you did in the Edit summary at the bottom. A bit more advice - the Talk pages show discussions when editors did not agree on changes. A change you have in mind may have already been proposed and dismissed. David notMD (talk) 15:18, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Draft:All Things Go Fall Classic
Draft:All_Things_Go_Fall_Classic was rejected. Can someone help me understand how to better write this as an "encyclopaedic article?" I did try to use neutral tone of voice (even when mentioning their political involvement), and included credible external sources. I do think their contributions to female equality in music is noteworthy. Any suggestions on how to improve this text is appreciated. I am trying to compare with other festivals like Coachella_Valley_Music_and_Arts_Festival. Jacobmcpherson (talk) 15:12, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
They give you a pretty good reason why it was declined. They say "it reads more like an advertisement" and it also reads more like a "press release". Also (while I doubt this is a case) if you have some sort of connection to this (whether you were involved in it or went to go see it) you might want to take a look at WP:COI. There are articles that will help you fix the problems described from being rejected however I don't know their inks so I would advise waiting for another host to provide an answer with links to these pages. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 15:24, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, right, but I'm asking what would make this read less like an "advertisement" by Wikipedia standards? Is there any constructive feedback on how you could envision the text improved? Jacobmcpherson (talk) 16:21, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello again!
Since I'm not a expert, can someone recommend some easy fix articles about nuclear weapons and stuff to get me started?
Thanks again. Midknight1342 (talk) 15:37, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. Is there a keyboard shortcut to open the Template popup in the Visual and Source editors? I have searched everywhere but couldn't find anything. Is there any user contributed script? Opening the "Insert" and clicking on the "Template" is unfortunately time consuming[ for me]. Any help appreciated! (P. S. While writing replies, please ping me using the {{Ping|DaxServer}}) :) -- DaxServer (talk) 16:02, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Longer answer: in addition to keyboard combinations for formatting, like Ctrl+Shft+6 for code, VE and NWE also have keyboard sequences that pop up edit cards (or panels). Generally they are based on the corresponding wikitext, such as {{ [[ <pre <ref <math. (Other sequences effect formatting without popping up an specialised box, when typed at the beginning of a line: e.g. colon-space, ===, and asterisk-space create blockquote, heading, and bullet list respectively.)
@Pelagic Thank you! These are what I am looking for. Could you also tell me how put the long-minus? I have been copy pasting it from other articles. If I could not find any, I am simply using the normal minus sign. -- DaxServer (talk) 10:56, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note, Midknight1342 that you should place the templates on BOTH pages, using {{Merge to |Name of combined article |date=May 2021}} AND {{Merge from|Name of article that will disappear after the merger|date=May 2021}}. You also need to put notices on the Talk pages of each article saying where any discussion is going to happen. I'm involved with Partition coefficient which you can use as an example of how to do it. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:18, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Midknight1342 You appear to be setting out on a plan to propose mergers of articles about decades in music with decades general (example: 1310s and 1310s in music). I strongly recommend you stop this effort. The two sets of articles, parallel by decades have existed for some time, and appear to provide a service. See also 1310s in art as another example of a parallel series of articles. David notMD (talk) 18:01, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
So I made a draft a few months ago about the Great Migration in the Serengeti. I didn't know that there was already a section in the Serengeti article covering it. I think it should be a new article given how notable it is and I asked on the talk page to gain consensus. No one answered so should I still make it and can some of you respond? TigerScientistChat19:09, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@TigerScientist: So your draft is not really much longer than the current section in the Serengeti article. Now, if you were to make a full article that was more in depth and more researched, it would probably be appropriate. But as is, its not really much better. Also, make sure to indent your posts using an increasing number of colons :) AdmiralEek (talk) 19:35, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@TigerScientist: Well glad to see you around and editing! So you certainly could copy some information from that section. You need to make sure you properly attribute your content, by mentioning in the edit summary "Copied from Foobar, see there for attribution" or something similar. I wouldn't just cut the material however, as the Serengeti article should still have a brief summary about the migration, since we use summary style on Wikipedia. AdmiralEek (talk) 19:43, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Was working on draft, came back to finish it and it is gone. Is there a way to recover it. Used the title as search term and did not find it. Had not published it yet as it was a working draft. How do you keep a working draft prior to publishing it? Davischip615 (talk) 19:25, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Davischip615: The way to save a draft is to publish it. But it stays as a "draft" even when published, a reviewer needs to approve it for it to be an article. If you did not "publish" it, then what you wrote is likely lost. Make sure to save your work frequently! AdmiralEek (talk) 19:28, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Davischip615: Welcome to the Teahouse. Alternatively, if you at any point had pressed the Publish changes button, you can dig through your contributions to see if you can find it there. Looking at them though, it seems the only edit that has gone through was posting here at the Teahouse. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:35, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I recently made an edit to the page explaining how non-fungible tokens(NFTs) are an important part to digital fashion. But I recently checked and saw that it was removed without explanation. I wrote it under the "Marketing, distribution, and sales" section, and here is the paragraph I wrote along with links to the articles I referenced:
"In recent years, artists in the digital fashion realm have used a non-fungible token (NFT) to represent, protect, and monetize their designs and works. Start-up companies like DIGITALAX have helped designers more easily collaborate and create digital materials, patterns, and fashion assets across gaming and virtual reality platforms.[4] Digital marketplaces that use NFTs like DIGITALAX also allow fractional garment ownership, helping all co-creators on a piece of a digital garment earn revenue and royalties from a sale.[5]"
Nathannghiya Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. An explanation was provided in the edit summary, "rm crypto sites, crypto site reprints". If crypto refers to cryptocurrencies, that is a tough area to edit in. Please see WP:GS/Crypto for more information. 331dot (talk) 22:19, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Your edit was removed by user:David Gerard with the explanation "rm crypto sites, crypto site reprints" If that explanation is not adequate then you should ask that user for clarification. Meters (talk) 22:22, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, I just finished a draft of a new page for Jeff Wittek that currently redirects to David Dobrik. I know it takes a bit of time for a draft to be published but I want to get ahead of understanding the redirect before it gets there. Will I be responsible for submitting a request for redirect so that it stops going to David Dobrik’s page?
Additionally, the photo I used is copyrighted. I carefully read over the photo upload page and the public domain explanation and something still isn’t clicking. This person is an internet personality and many pictures are available that seem to be public domain to me because they were initially uploaded by him to public accounts like Instagram and YouTube. Are those okay? If I screenshot a still from one of his videos, is that allowed?
Hello, Yungli0n. You seem to have a misunderstanding of public domain and copyright. A photo that you find online is assumed to be restricted by copyright unless there is solid evidence that it is in the public domain. If the photo was published over 95 years ago, it is in the public domain. If the photo was created by an employee of the U.S. Federal government as part of their job duties, then it is in the public domain. Photos on Instagram and YouTube are restricted by copyright 99+% of the time. As for the redirect, that is easy to take care of if your draft is approved. Cullen328Let's discuss it22:43, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, "in the public domain" has, in practice, a variety of meanings. (Nothing surprising about this: it's how language tends to work.) These include meanings such as "a matter of public knowledge". You should ignore all but one of these meanings. The sole meaning that matters here is "free of copyright". And don't take that to mean either "free of any explicit claim of copyright" or "sure not to have anyone complaining if I reuse it": it's much more restrictive. To determine whether an image is in the public domain in the US, look it up in the "Hirtle chart". Now, if that looks forbiddingly complex and you really can't be bothered, I sympathize. Feel free to skip it, but then don't upload the image(s) you're wondering about. -- Hoary (talk) 23:04, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I submitted an article back in December. The initial review was completed within a few hours and the article was rejected as being 'not encyclopedic'. This doesn't make sense since the event spanned nearly ten years and was covered extensively by many noteworthy sources (AP, UPI, NYT, Chicago Tribune, etc). I replied to the reviewer asking for clarification but never got a response.
I continued to improve the article and resubmitted it but there's been no further activity in almost five months. Is there anything further I can do or is it just a matter of waiting?
@Sliptonic: I actually agree with Tagishsimon's judgement on this one. News coverage only means that a subject is presumed to be notable, but doesn't guarantee that an article is warranted (read the last point at WP:GNG). As per WP:NEVENT, we need some lasting significance after the event has ended to show that the subject is of encyclopedic value, and in this case, I don't really think that value is present here. For a similar case, read the closing statement for the AfD on Josh fight. Instead, consider adding a paragraph about this to Practical joke#Famous examples. ◢ Ganbaruby! (talk) 02:26, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Just a lengthy, expensive and insignificant practical joke of ongoing interest to only two people. Editorial judgment is sometimes in short supply, but here's an example where "not encyclopedic" seems to be the wise conclusion. Cullen328Let's discuss it02:32, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the replies. This article draft was prompted by continuing (recent) inquiries from other media sites like 'Futility Closet' and 'Today I learned' doing retrospective coverage of the story. There still seems to be interest but I understand the points you raise. Likewise, the List of practical joke topics contains many items that seem similarly trivial. e.g Black fax, Phoenix Five (prank), Henryk Batuta hoax. When does ongoing current interest warrant a stand-alone article? Sliptonic (talk) 03:33, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Help me to pass the AFC. My page is translated from German.
@Jiskofor: I don't speak German, but I do a lot of translation from Chinese, and I can tell you that your draft needs to be written in a much more neutral tone, since right now it reads like an advertisement. It doesn't matter if the German article is written like this, since the two language Wikipedias have different policies and guidelines. As for sourcing, IMDb is unacceptable as a source (WP:IMDB). Instead, look for more reliable sources to back up your information and to show that the subject passes the notability guideline. ◢ Ganbaruby! (talk) 06:48, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Jiskofor, three of the sections are unreferenced, and should be deleted if you can't find sources for them. The "Weblinks" section should be renamed to "External links". You should use English-style quotation marks "", instead of „“. Maproom (talk) 07:36, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Need help with my Draft article.
Hello, I had recently created an article, but it was nominated for deletion, which resulted it to be moved to Drafts. Now the admin has told me to improve the page and submit it.
I would like some help, as in to what can be improved. I will submit it when it has been improved. I have tried getting more references, but James Colistro is very old and not much is available of him.
Hi! Although I have edited 25+ articles, I still have problem with the main template with personal information. I was reading about French Revolution recently and I noticed that kings like Louis XVI or Louis XV etc., there is not *Heading of personal information there. Since I don't know how to edit it, can someone help me with that? Rakm11 (talk) 04:46, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rakm11: I'm sorry, but I don't know which "heading" or "template" you're referring to; you might just not know what the Wikipedia jargon for it is yet. Could you find an article with this "heading" and tell me where it is? ◢ Ganbaruby! (talk) 06:29, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Please notice that under successor, the heading should be personal information. Please help adding that :). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakm11 (talk • contribs)
New biographical article – diacritics, Wikidata, Google
I have just created my first article on (en) Wikipedia. It is a bio on a deceased architect. I have a couple of questions:
How do I make sure that the Wikidata references are correct? It so happens that another article about the same person exists on (de) Wikipedia. This older article spells the name of the article subject without a diacritic, while my new entry on (en) Wikipedia spells the name with the diacritic. This means that there are now two different Wikidata IDs, whereas they actually refer to the same person. This seems less than ideal – can I rectify this myself, and if so how?
Thanks @David Biddulph: – re the indexing, I thought that that process had already happened, since the Page Information shows "Indexing by robots Allowed". I guess that is something else? Ingwe Ndlovu (talk) 11:26, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that the wording to which you refer is confusing, but the page's source code includes "<meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow"/>". Perhaps the wording you saw is saying merely that the __NOINDEX__ magic word has not been separately applied? If it isn't reviewed within 90 days, the NOINDEXing is automatically removed. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:29, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ingwe Ndlovu You by-passed the Articles for Creation (AfC) draft and review process to create Alexander Cvijanović in main space. Factual sentences, and in some instances entire sections, are without references. Some of the refs are only mention-his-name-in-passing, two are World-Cat, two of them are to science journal articles (!?!?!?!), and the last one does not work at all. Please continue to improve the article. It is very possible that a new pages patroller, rather than index this, will draftify it. David notMD (talk) 12:57, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Shaguftansari Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Your contribution history has no edits(other than to here). Unless you were logged out when you edited, unfortunately your edits were not "published"(what we call saved) so they were lost. 331dot (talk) 12:15, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Antique firearms: ammunition type exclusion per ATF
Is your content on the subject of "Antique firearms" not misleading people and causing violations of the law?
ATF.gov now excludes firearms from the antique class if they use: <ATF.gov> fixed rimfire or centerfire ammo that is readily available through commercial channels. Most ordinary people in the U.S. can have ammo shipped to their door (therefore readily available). Rifles made by Loewe use common Mauser calibers [(7x57,8x57,7.65 etc),(readily available)]. Therefore not "all" firearms made by Loewe of Berlin can be transferred or shipped in the U.S. like proper "antique firearms". The definition and examples given at ATF.gov are not ambiguous. The qualifier about ammunition type now needs to be stressed more; and the statements about Loewe rifles are not absolute in this regard (at least in the United States). LoeweCollector (talk) 13:07, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
help find a draft
Hi, I need help to find a draft that I was working on. I'm not certain that I saved it. Is there a place where working drafts can be found? HollyBells (talk) 13:31, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Would there happen to be a list of the stuff that is in the "Help" section of the edit source that provides examples of the end result? IE formatting, links, headings, lists, references, and the discussions or is this inside the manual of style? Discount Horde (talk) 13:37, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]