Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Coordinators/2011

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Overview

The project coordinators will be generally responsible for maintaining the procedural and administrative aspects of the project. They will be the designated points-of-contact for procedural issues and will be responsible for ensuring that the project as a whole is properly informed of them.

To provide some examples of coordinator duties: the coordinators will manage the proposal and creation of new task forces; ensure that project announcement and task lists are kept up-to-date; initiate drafting of guidelines needed by the project; organize the category system; oversee the recruitment of new members, including the use of project notices and other advertising methods; create and maintain collaborative projects if any; maintain the project page and the various guidelines in it in a clean and easy-to-use state; monitor technical policies and ensure that project templates satisfy them, and assist in organizing and promoting any Backlog Elimination Drives.

They are also expected to generally assist project members with any questions or concerns.

The coordinator positions will not entail any executive power.

Positions

• Lead Coordinator (one open position): will have overall responsibility for procedural and administrative matters within the project.

• Assistant Coordinator (three open positions): will assist the Lead Coordinator by focusing on specific areas within the project that require special attention. These areas will be selected based on need and interest among the coordinators.

Election Process

• The election process will run for two weeks, starting on December 1, 2010 and ending at 23:59 (UTC) on December 14, 2010.

• Any member of the project may nominate themselves for either position by creating a new section under "Nominations" below and copying the sample form below. Nominees only interested in one position should indicate this when adding their names. Candidates need not make extensive statements if they do not wish to do so.

• The elections will be conducted using simple approval voting. Any member of the project may support a nominee for either position. If the nominee is running for both positions and you wish to support them for only one, please make a note to that effect as part of your vote.

• Both project members and interested outside parties are encouraged to ask questions of the nominees or make general comments.

Sample nomination

Editor's Username

Example (talk · contribs) • Interested in Assistant position only.

Brief statement here

Nominations

Current time is 21:10, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes.

SMasters

SMasters (talk · contribs)

I have been copyediting Wikipedia for just under five years. Early this year, I discovered the GOCE, and found it without any real leadership, and a Requests page with well over 60 requests which were unfulfilled. I decided to clean up the main page, and attempted to work on the requests backlog. Guild recruitment was at the top of my mind. If we were going to get any work done, we would need more members, and these members need to be active. I created the {{User Copy Edit}} template, and a new category for members using the tag to appear on. I also developed the "Top 10 reasons to join the Guild of Copy Editors" on the GOCE home page. In April 2010, I teamed up with ɳorɑfʈ to organize the very first GOCE backlog elimination drive, recruiting Diannaa as a coordinator along the way. I have been a coordinator of every drive since, and I also do the graphs that you see. I designed a new copyeditor's barnstar as well as the Guild's Gold Star Award. With the success of the drives, I redesigned the Requests page to make it easier to use and more pleasing to the eye. Recently, I also introduced tabs to make navigation easier, and compiled the FAQ page. Finally, I proposed to Diannaa that we should really have proper coordinators for the Guild, to further build on what has been achieved in 2010. And here we are! If I am elected, I hope to continue contributing to the Guild (my usual home in Wikipedia). Thanks!

Support

1. Great copyeditor and been here since beginning doing a great job. Derild4921Review Me! 00:40, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
2. Strong support - S Masters is a great copyeditor and leader that will move the project forward. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 00:43, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
3. Support. SMasters has done much for the project. The Utahraptor^Talk/_Contribs 01:03, 1 De-cember 2010 (UTC)
4. Strong support for Lead, based on history of copyediting and contributions to administrative activities here. –Paul M. Nguyen (chat|blame) 01:11, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
5. Support - Great editor. I am sure he will do well. Reaper Eternal (talk) 01:37, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
6. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 01:45, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
7. Support – Indeed, an excellent copy editor that would be an asset to the GOCE. —mc10 (u|t|c) 01:55, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
8. Support - No reason not to support, S Masters has done a great job so far. Mlpearc powwow 02:10, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

   Note: this vote is for Assistant Coordinator. Mlpearc powwow 14:39, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

9. Support - He has done a great deal of work for the project and I have no reason not to support him. --Slon02 (talk) 02:27, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
10. Support - Theo10011 (talk) 03:00, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
11. —Ancient Apparition • Champagne? • 2:13pm • 03:13, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
12. Support - • GenQuest • User Information • GenQuest • (Talk)
13. Support – I appreciate all the work he has done so far. --Tea with toast (talk) 03:50, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
14. Support // ⌘macwhiz (talk) 03:55, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
15. Support Obvious choice! Lfstevens (talk) 04:59, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
16. Support. Hard working, capable, good leadership skills. (and he even proposed to Diannaa!) ;p œ^™ 07:52, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
17. Strong Support for lead. Nolelover ^{It's football season!} 15:08, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
18. Support - Chaosdruid (talk) 15:19, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
19. Support -Seen him about copyediting various articles, think he will make a good coordinator. Now if he can help copyedit the Clint Eastwood article I've been writing and help promote to GA even more so!♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:43, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
20. Support - Excellent contributor. He's helped me out on an article which gets only a fair few editors besides myself, and contributed extremely well to its FAC. He is to be credited for his hard work. I believe he will serve the role extremely well.--The Taerkasten (talk) 15:47, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
21. Support: Excellent copyeditor and an active presence on this forum.--Redtigerxyz ^Talk 15:54, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
22. Support - S has come to the aid of a couple of my articles and I have been very pleased with the work provided. I can remember the original request page and it was slightly intimidating. I was surprised when I came back and saw the current version. Knowing that SMasters had a hand in that makes me comfortable supporting their nomination.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 16:16, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
23. Support – There is no more dedicated an editor on the platform! Carmarg4 (talk) 16:32, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
24. Support --TwistOfCain ^(talk) 16:51, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
25. Strong support I have been impressed with S. Masters skill in editing. He is also a very courteous individual. I am sure he will make excellent contributions on the Guild of Copy Editors and as coordinator.-- N.V.V. Char ^Talk . 17:12, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
26. Support Excellent copyediting, breath in the range of topics copyedited, quick to respond, finish copyedits to accelerate acheivement of GA status for the article being copyedited. Zuggernaut (talk) 17:54, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
27. Strong Support For lead position. For his commitment to copyediting and wealth of experience. Pol430 (talk) 18:24, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
28. Support, (WP:SNOW!) very helpful copyeditor. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 18:54, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
29. Strong support - SMasters is a real idea guy. A lot of the recent innovations and initiatives in the GOCE have originated with him. He is a natural leader. --Diannaa ^(Talk) 19:10, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
30. Support per his consistent and diligent work and per his good copyedits to Middlesex (novel). He has the experience to take on this role. Cunard (talk) 22:50, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
31. Support, he is a very helpful and dedicated contributer. Crystal Clear x3 02:20, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
32. Support What I really like about SMasters edits and his contributions is how swift and efficient he is in reviewing articles for GA. I mean, dude is as fast as Superman — Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:22, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
33. Support. SMasters has clearly been a strong driving force for the guild, providing a great deal of inspiration and hard work -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:57, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
34. Support. He knows how to do his copyediting. WAYNESLAM 01:57, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
35. Support. MarmadukePercy (talk) 07:32, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
36. Support -- I have seen SMaster a time or two and he is a valuable copyeditor for this project. —Mike Allen 11:33, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
37. Support - I've always found his work top notch. Constantine ✍ 15:00, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
38. Support - A great, helpful and really friendly editor who is always there when you need help with some copyediting. I believe that SMasters will be a great asset to the GOCE. -- Bollywood Dreamz ^talk 02:16, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
39. Support rubicon | talk 00:13, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
40. Support as a dedicated and valuable copyeditor. Simon Burchell (talk) 20:07, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Comments and questions

1. Do you have any ideas for further improvements to the Guild, such as ideas for projects, or ways we could attract new members? --Diannaa ^(Talk) 22:49, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

I have been contemplating some sort of mentoring program. As a Guild, we should work to support those who are interested in the craft of copyediting. This might also be useful in helping to keep the interest of experienced editors who are too busy to do full copyedits, but would not mind helping groom new copyeditors to do the work. I would also like to see the Guild setup a step-by-step guide on how to copyedit. Recruitment and retention is of great importance to the Guild. I have recently posted on the Reward board our latest drive, in the hope that it will attract new members to the Guild, and participants to our drives. I would also like to see better collaboration with other active WikiProjects for recruitment purposes. This is one way of getting active editors to join us. – SMasters (talk) 02:56, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

2. You said here that one reason to join GOCE was to "[i]ncrease your edit counts quickly and easily". In retrospect, what were you thinking and has your belief changed since? How and why? Lunalet (talk) 01:36, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

That was a draft that I put up for discussion and consensus before publication on the Guild's home page. My thinking at the time is related to my own experience. I had been editing Wikipedia for a time, but was not doing full copyedits until I found the Guild. After joining, I found that one additional benefit was that one's edit count did indeed go up naturally, due to the amount of edits required to copyedit an article properly. As such, I thought that it may be of interest to some editors who were trying to improve their experience and edit count at the same time. I was trying to come up with 10 good selling points for editors to join the Guild. Not all will appeal to everyone, but this particular point may appeal to some. My thinking has not really changed. I believe that it is not inherently a good thing, but at the same time, it is not necessarily a bad thing either. At the end of the day, edit counts, where it really counts (such as copyediting), do help make Wikipedia (the ultimate winner) better. – SMasters (talk) 02:57, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

3. In light of question #2, what was the purpose of the AWB run you made today that increased your edit count to 32,659 and your mainspace edits to 28,037 (86.11% of overall edit count)? Here is a portion of that run. Lunalet (talk) 01:36, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Even though I have been approved to use AWB for a while now, I only recently discovered how to use it properly. Up to two weeks ago, I had a respectable solid edit count with nothing from AWB (from a period spanning just under five years). Since discovering the powerful features in AWB, I have been focusing on two main areas: Category:Living people (which I completed a few days ago), and now, Category:Dead people (I am up to "T"). I am mainly using AWB to make general fixes, fixing ref tags, as well as adding missing personaldata templates as per Wikipedia:Persondata, which states: "Persondata is a special set of metadata that can and should be added to biographical articles only". Next, I will help WikiProject Wikify's December Drive, to remove the wikify tag on pages where it is no longer appropriate. The reason for my edit runs is to help improve Wikipedia with small tedious fixes that take a long time to complete manually. I have been editing Wikipedia for just under five years, and upping my edit count has obviously not been of any great concern. AWB is a great tool, but one of the "side effects" of using it is a rapid increase in edit counts. I hope this addresses your concerns. – SMasters (talk) 02:57, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

4. On December 1, you notified 495 GOCE members about this election (link). While it can be argued that your neutral notification is justified because these people have committed to serving this project, I am extremely appalled by your reprehensible behavior in your subsequent messages to 19 editors (link). To one editor, you wrote:

Hi Jmorrison230582, hope you're well. As an editor who has used the services of the Guild of Copy Editors, I thought you might be interested in knowing that the Guild is currently holding elections for its coordinators. To view the discussion and voice your opinion, please visit the election page. Thanks! – SMasters (talk) 15:32, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

From a cursory glance at your interactions with editors like Jmorrison230582, it appears that you are the one who provided the GOCE services to them. Do you think this canvassing is acceptable behavior? Do you think it will unduly affect the outcome of the election, giving you a highly unfair advantage over the other candidates? I note that Diannaa has not engaged in any disruptive, unethical, immoral canvassing. Right now, Diannaa has 29 supports and you have 34. If you had not canvassed, Diannaa would be the frontrunner—the Lead Coordinator. Because of your canvassing, Diannaa must now settle for the inferior position of Assistant Coordinator. After reviewing the circumstances here, how can you face up to your lack of integrity? How can you look in the mirror knowing you have shown no respect to your fellow candidates who have fairness and decency? Lunalet (talk) 00:01, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

I am well aware of, and fully understand, the policies regarding canvassing. I notified 495 GOCE members by sending out a notice because it was my job to do so. The notice was crafted and discussed on Diannaa's talk page, and due to our mailing list issues, everyone involved with that discussion was well aware that I would be sending out the message. The page on canvassing states: "In general, it is perfectly acceptable to notify other editors of ongoing discussions, provided that it is done with the intent to improve the quality of the discussion by broadening participation to more fully achieve consensus." I do not believe I have broken any rules. My short notice to users of the Guild's services is to alert them of the ongoing elections. I did not ask any of them to vote for me. I have no objections if other candidates do the same, provided that the messages are limited, neutral, nonpartisan and open as per the rules regarding canvassing. I would not view this as disruptive, unethical or immoral. This election goes for two weeks, and we are not even halfway through. Many people have still not voted. It would be way too early to say who would become the lead at this stage. I'm sorry to say, but I do find your view that non-lead coordinators are "inferior", quite offensive. Are you aware that all of the candidates in this election have worked together in the past to make this Guild a better place? Anyone who did would not call any coordinator here inferior. – SMasters (talk) 05:24, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

5. What is your reaction to a comment by Malleus Fatuorum that said "I wish you luck with your drive, but it's not for me. It may well be "elitist", but I'm only really interested in helping along those articles headed for FA/GA, where it's not just the grammar and spelling that's important, but the aricle's structure, accessibility, comprehensibility, referencing, image licencing " (link or full discussion)? Do you work on improving an article's structure, accessibility, comprehensibility, referencing, image licencing when you copyedit? Lunalet (talk) 01:01, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Everyone here is a volunteer. We can't force anyone to do anything they don't want to. If someone does not want to participate in a drive, then it is their choice. However, there is a place for someone like Malleus Fatuorum in the Guild. We have requests for help for articles that are going for FA/GA all the time. I would encourage editors like Malleus Fatuorum to see if there are any articles in our requests section that they can help with. Every editor that helps around here is an asset to the Guild. – SMasters (talk) 05:24, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

6. You said in your answer to question #4, "My short notice to users of the Guild's services is to alert them of the ongoing elections. I did not ask any of them to vote for me." The fine line here is that YOU helped them copyedit an article and, hoping that they recalled your assistance, asked them to vote in the election. You were clearly seeking votes. Since you maintain that you did not canvass and that "I have no objections if other candidates do the same, provided that the messages are limited, neutral, nonpartisan and open as per the rules regarding canvassing", please compile a list of editors for whom Diannaa and the rest of the candidates have copyedited an article. Either you notify them yourself of this election neutrally, or give me the list and I will do it. Unlike you, I have a conscience and integrity that prompts me to do the right thing in all fairness. I sincerely hope that you get your act together. Take a good long look in the mirror, and think about what type of person you want to be in life. Lunalet (talk) 09:44, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

What you are asking me to do is simply impossible. If you know anything about about us, you will know that we copyedit hundreds of articles, and deal with many editors. How will I know which editor each candidate has dealt with specifically for copyediting? You are really brewing a storm in a teacup. Please assume good faith. I posted notes to just a handful of editors, which is allowed. I have copyedited hundreds of articles, If I really wanted to canvass, I would be writing to hundreds of editors, not just a handful. You are now asking me to mass post, which is not allowed under the rules for canvassing. Of course I will be writing to people I do know. If not, I would be spamming. As I said, I don't see anything wrong with other candidates posting out notices within what is allowed under the canvassing rules. It is allowed provided it is not a mass posting. You talk about integrity, but you claim that you are unable to remember your old username and are being accused of all kinds of violations. All this on an account which has been opened for less than a week. You are not a member of the Guild, nor did you participate in any of our drives. What is your agenda here? I'm sorry, but I will not be bullied into mass mailing people for the purpose of this election. I would rather spend my time working on the backlog and helping those on our requests page. Cheers. – SMasters (talk) 15:04, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

7. You ought to be reminded that your tu quoque arguments do not help your case at all; in fact, they are digging you a deeper hole. You disruptively canvassed 19 users. You are ahead of Diannaa by a measly few votes. If she were to stoop to such dishonest and unscrupulous behavior, she would be far ahead of you. She does not need to canvass to attain an appreciable number of supports. You, though, would have close to zilch supporters if you had not engaged in such trickery. You should be ashamed of yourself. To engage in tu quoque arguments is ludicrous. I am not the candidate. You are. That I forgot my old username is irrelevant to the fact that you need to shape up going forward. If you are an honest person, you should give Diannaa and the other candidates the same opportunity. Notify 19 users they helped so that they get a fair chance. Don't complain about your needing to do the work. You started all this by locating the names of the 19 editors whom you've helped before. Have the courtesy and integrity to do the work for the other candidates. That's the real test. Okay? Lunalet (talk) 10:02, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Please look up the tu quoque fallacy before accusing people of doing it. tu quoque is the attempt to justify an action by saying "Well, so-and-so did it too!" Nowhere has SMasters claimed that Diannaa or anybody else posted to other users about this election. His request of "What is your agenda here?" is a very good one. Why do you care so much about the Guild of Copy Editors? Maybe a CheckUser should have a look at your account since it seems to be being used for disruptive editing. By the way, speaking of editing, here are SMasters' contributions, here are Diannaa's contributions, and here are The Utahraptor's contributions. This is in order of contributions to article space. Now look at your contributions, which seem to be mostly to talk pages and to this page. 208.102.80.83 (talk) 11:29, 6 December 2010 (UTC) Whoops! That's me! Reaper Eternal (talk) 11:30, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

I can only assume that English is not your first language. Lunalet (talk) 01:54, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Have you ever read WP:CIVIL? And what difference does it make if English is or is not my first language? Or are you just angry that somebody called you out on your misapplication of tu quoque? I am seriously considering an SPI on you, but I can see from your userpage that User:Baseball Bugs already tried to get one and it was declined. It appears to me that you are attempting to destroy the Guild of Copy Editors by pitting our leaders against each other. Reaper Eternal (talk) 18:41, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

For the record, I wrote a note to 18 users (not 19) from the requests page of the Guild, in good faith, to let them know that we are having elections here, and that they may be interested in having a say. My note to Papa Lima Whiskey has nothing to do with these elections. You say that I would have "close to zilch supporters", but if you study the voting, before any of the 18 had responded, I already had 20 votes. And I have had other votes since who are not from the notes. Of the 18, more than half did not vote at all, and several voted for Diannaa. As you are not a member of our Guild, nor did you participate in any of our drives, I am not sure if you are aware of our history. Once again, you are brewing a storm in a teacup. You have been accused of being a troll on your own talk page. Normally, I would not feed the trolls, but I have to respond here as any silence could be incorrectly construed. I did not "disruptively canvassed". I wrote a few notes to users of the Guild to alert them of the elections, which is allowed. You insist on asking me to write to more editors, when I have already explained that I will have no idea which editors I will need to write to. This particular post, your language and thinking here, clearly demonstrates your ill intent, bordering on violating WP:NOTBATTLEGROUND. Your personal attacks on me prompted me to discuss this separately with Diannaa, who advised me not to do anything. So, please, let it rest. You have enough battles on your own turf to keep you occupied. Cheers. – SMasters (talk) 00:45, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

There is a nominal difference between 18 and 19, but thank you for your correction. It shows that though you have engaged in dishonest behavior, it was not as dishonest as I previously thought. The really interesting thing about all this is not that your success at spattering my reputation has so far formed an insuperable obstacle to my ability to take up the all-encompassing challenge of freedom, justice, equality, and the pursuit of editing in collegiality with full dignity. Suffice it to say that you ought to unstop your ears and uncover your eyes. Only then will you hear that to which you have been too long heedless. I will not remain silence in the face of grotesque abuse now or ever. Some things are worth fighting for and I will never kowtow to ignorant behavior. Lunalet (talk) 01:54, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

I sent messages to people who had articles copyedited by Diannaa, exactly of the form you sent. This is called fairness, honesty. I am giving a fair chance to those who did not abusively canvass. What bothers me are disruptive editors who have nothing better to do than to hound good faith competent editors trying to improve the encyclopedia in friendly collaboration with others who are here in good faith to help out. I don't know how you live with yourself knowing you are an abusive and unjust bloke who has shown no respect for his fellow candidates—no fairness or decency. At the end of the day, I am always at peace knowing that I do my best to stand up for what's right and play by the rules. Lunalet (talk) 10:53, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Could you pelase explain why you did not send eighteen messages to editors that might support the remaining four candidates? --Diannaa ^(Talk) 16:09, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps SMasters ought to take responsibility for his abusive canvassing and act in a fair and collegial manner. Lunalet (talk) 00:26, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

8. Diannaa and the other candidates in this election have supported those who they believe are qualified for the roles of Lead Coordinator and Assistant Coordinator. They did so despite knowing that each of their supports lowered their own chance of being elected. Surprisingly, you have not supported any of the candidates, even though some, especially Diannaa, are very well qualified. Please explain yourself. Lunalet (talk) 10:18, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

It's very simple. I purposely abstained from voting before as I am a candidate. Any votes could be construed as favoritism on my part. However, since you insist, I have now done so. – SMasters (talk) 00:45, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

I thank you. For once in this election, you have shown a modicum of decorum and honesty. Lunalet (talk) 01:54, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

I really don't understand why you are drilling this user like this. He's not running for President. —Mike Allen 11:33, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

I agree. If you have nothing constructive to say about a certain user, please keep those comments to yourself, with the greatest of respect. A little civility and good faith goes a long way towards building this great community.--TÆRkast (Communicate) 19:17, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Diannaa

Diannaa (talk · contribs)

Hi, I am Diannaa, and I have been editing Wikipedia since October of 2009. I have copy edited literally thousands of articles from the backlog, and have been an active participant in the organisation of the backlog elimination drives. Activities include maintenance of the drive pages, daily updates of the figures, closing off the drives in July and September, sending out barnstars, and preparing newsletters. I have done copy edits of many articles from our requests page, and recently designed and implemented our new archive for that page. I was recently appointed as an administrator and am also a member of the the WP:MILHIST wikiproject.

Support

1. Great copyediting and has done wonderful work along with the original coordinators for this project. Derild4921Review Me! 00:40, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
2. Support - I have seen Diannaa around Milhist and like her editing. Definitely a strong candidate. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 00:43, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
3. Strong Support - I can't beat you (Derild) on speed, but I can beat you on strength ;) . Diannaa is a good copyeditor and seems always willing to help out, so I strongly support her. Reaper Eternal (talk) 00:45, 1 December 2010 (UTC) Hey! You beat me too!
4. Support. I've known Diannaa since the first backlog elimination drive, and since then, she's been very helpful and courteous to all drive participants. The Utahraptor^Talk/_Contribs 01:04, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
5. Strong support for Lead, based on history and quality of copyediting and contributions to administrative activities here. –Paul M. Nguyen (chat|blame) 01:11, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
6. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:44, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
7. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 01:45, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
8. Strong support - Worked with Diannaa on many different issues including GOCE. A very dynamic and helpful editor and admin.--Kudpung (talk) 01:50, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
9. Support – Excellent copy editor that would benefit the GOCE if he/she became a coordinator. —mc10 (u|t|c) 01:55, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
10. Strong Support - Diannaa is a great copy editor, very helpful and has clue. Mlpearc powwow 02:14, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

    Note: this vote is for Lead Coordinator. Mlpearc powwow 14:34, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

11. Support - I have seen Diannaa's work in a few GOCE backlog drives, and have been impressed by what I saw. Diannaa is an excellent copy editor who is strongly devoted to the project. --Slon02 (talk) 02:29, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
12. Support - Theo10011 (talk) 03:00, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
13. Support Excellent editor and member of the guild from my point of view. upstateNYer 03:06, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
14. Support - Diannaa is dedicated, alright – to both maintaining and improving the GOCE, and to copyediting itself, of course. Bobnorwal (talk) 03:07, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
15. Great dedication and work. —Ancient Apparition • Champagne? • 2:15pm • 03:15, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
16. Support - • GenQuest • User Information • GenQuest • (Talk)
17. Strong support for lead—Diannaa seems to take naturally to the coordination role. // ⌘macwhiz (talk) 03:57, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
18. Support Another obvious choice Lfstevens (talk) 05:01, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
19. Support. Intelligent, resourceful, and aspiring. This gal's goin' places! -- œ^™ 08:00, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
20. Support - Chaosdruid (talk) 15:15, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
21. Support - Excellent contributor, no doubt she will serve the GoCE well.--The Taerkasten (talk) 15:49, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
22. Support: Another Excellent copyeditor and an active presence on this forum. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 15:56, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
23. Support as assistant. Nolelover ^{It's football season!} 16:06, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
24. Support --TwistOfCain ^(talk) 16:52, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
25. Support Great copyediting, excellent with military/war related articles, helps detect copyvios, provided advise on use of type of English dialect to be used, nomenclature, etc. Zuggernaut (talk) 17:55, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
26. Support For assistant. For commitment to the cause and highly positive contributions. Pol430 (talk) 18:30, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
27. Strong Support for lead! Very helpful! Bddmagic (talk) 21:35, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
28. Support She's great at copyediting. WAYNESLAM 20:34, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
29. Support. Just look at Diannaa's copy-editing record! It's all top-quality work. And great work with coordinating the drives too. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 14:01, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
30. Support Diannaa is one of the few candidates in this election that has integrity and honesty and will not canvass to disruptively influence the outcome of this highly important election. Lunalet (talk) 00:18, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
31. Strong support Diannaa has been a great contributor to the Guild, helping to work on hundreds of articles. She has also been a fine coordinator of our drives, and has demonstrated her worth as a team player in the running of the Guild. A great asset to GOCE! – SMasters (talk) 00:29, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
32. Support She is very very good at copyediting.--Sodabottle (talk) 10:55, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
33. Support -- has worked on an article I requested and I was genuinely impressed. —Mike Allen 11:44, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
34. Support an excellent copyeditor, improving style while not distorting the content. Thumbs up! Constantine ✍ 14:54, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
35. Support Have seen the dedication and work firsthand.--Aichi (talk) --Aichikawa 20:11, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
36. Support - All copyeditors are good, bur Dianna was fast and good. Kebeta (talk) 23:32, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
37. Support Another great copyeditor. Simon Burchell (talk) 20:08, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
38. Support for lead. Bullet. --LilHelpa (talk) 21:36, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Comments and questions

1. You have recently been made an administrator. How will you manage your time between being a busy admin, WP:MILHIST participant, and a coordinator for the Guild? – SMasters (talk) 04:44, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

   My involvement with the MilHist group has involved copy editing, so there's lots of overlap. I have been selecting admin tasks from the dashboard and I continue to hunt vandals with Huggle for a while each day. I think having a variery of tasks to do keeps my interest in the project high, and I am fortunate enough to have time to help in several areas. --Diannaa ^(Talk) 16:35, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

2. What is your reaction to a comment by Malleus Fatuorum that said "I wish you luck with your drive, but it's not for me. It may well be "elitist", but I'm only really interested in helping along those articles headed for FA/GA, where it's not just the grammar and spelling that's important, but the aricle's structure, accessibility, comprehensibility, referencing, image licencing " (link or full discussion)? Do you work on improving an article's structure, accessibility, comprehensibility, referencing, image licencing when you copyedit? Lunalet (talk) 00:18, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

   There are really two different types of copy editing that I do. When we are running a backlog elimination drive, I focus almost exclusively on articles from the tagged articles. I will select from the oldest ones, or I will focus on the shorter ones. Many of them are biographies, and many of them are about villages in India. So what I do is add an info box of there is not one present, and there is enough info in the article to justify its addition. For articles about villages I will see if I can get coordinates, of they are not already present in the article. For ones about people, I will see if we have a picture on the Commons. Another thing I look for is cut-and-paste copyright violations. If the text suddenly changes in quality, that's a giveaway. It's harder to find the source website after time has passed, as by then there are many mirror sites that also contain the text, but it usually can be located. So any copyright stuff is removed. Typically the articles are unsourced, there are no sources available, some dude in India writes an article about his village, and since all villages are notable we have to keep the article. So I do my best to patch them up and have them meet Wikipedia guidelines.

   The second kind of copy edit that I do is an article for a GA or FA review. The very first thing I do on these is read through the reviewer's comments and try to get a sense of what has happened so far and what further edits the reviewer is looking for. The article might be in pretty good shape, depending on who the author is. Typically the lead is in the best shape and the further down you go the more polishing the text needs. So I try to simplify the language, cut out extra words, re-work awkward sections, simplify tenses to make the language more direct, move around the pics to improve the layout, add alt-text to any pics that do not have it, improve the citations by adding missing information that can be gleaned from Worldcat, put the references in order, check for dead links, check for dabs. I will run the dash script and see if it picks up any en-dash or em-dash booboos. All articles but the military ones especially need to be checked for compliance with either American or British spelling conventions. And I will get out my Chicago and my other copy editing textbook and make sure I really know where my commas are supposed to go. For GA they don't seem to make a fuss, but for FA they go nuts over misplaced commas. --Diannaa ^(Talk) 07:23, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

3. Do you think SMasters' canvassing has unduly affected the outcome of this election, making him the Lead Coordinator and relegating you to the role of Assistant Coordinator? Lunalet (talk) 00:18, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

   Out of curiosity, where was he canvassing? Reaper Eternal (talk) 01:25, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

   See question #4 to SMasters. Lunalet (talk) 01:27, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

   If SMasters wins the lead role, that would suit me just fine, as he is the best candidate. There are other Annapurnas in the lives of men. --Diannaa ^(Talk) 16:04, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

   I have thought about the canvassing issue for a couple of days, and since the messages were openly sent to a small group of users of our requests page, and I too have done copy edits for several of them, that the actions of SMasters were acceptable. If anyone feels it would help to have an uninvolved admin look the matter over, we could do that. --Diannaa ^(Talk) 18:02, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

   I would've normally been concerned and investigated, but upon reading Lunalet's rather patronizing remark, "Take a good long look in the mirror, and think about what type of person you want to be in life" I would rather disregard his comments altogether, seeing as it would make no difference what Smasters had done, the opposition is not related to the election but is clearly personal in tone. Added to that the highly suspicious nature of the account itself, I would give little weight to "Lunalet"'s comments here. -- œ^™ 04:50, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

The Utahraptor

The Utahraptor (talk · contribs)

I have been a member of the Guild of Copy Editors since April 2010. I have participated in every backlog elimination drive since they started, including the May drive, the July drive, the September drive, and the November drive. I was originally supposed to be a co-coordinator for the September 2010 backlog elimination drive, but I retired for a short time and resigned. I co-coordinated the November 2010 backlog elimination drive. I have helped make some of the more important decisions concerning the drives, including the rollover idea introduced in the September drive. I help develop the Guild's newsletters, and even have a subpage dedicated to developing the newsletters. In addition, I also send in requests to MessageDeliveryBot to deliver our newsletters, and when the bot is down, Diannaa and I send the newsletters manually. Basically, I do a lot of the tedious work of the Guild. If elected as a coordinator, I will continue assisting the Guild as it continues to expand.

Support

1. I've known him for a while and is a hardworking editor and contributor to this project. Derild4921Review Me! 00:40, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
2. Support Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 00:43, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
3. Strong support for Assistant, based on quality of copyediting and contributions to administrative activities here. –Paul M. Nguyen (chat|blame) 01:11, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
4. Support - From what I know of this editor, he would make a good coordinator. Reaper Eternal (talk) 01:36, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
5. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:45, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
6. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 01:45, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
7. Support – Keep copy editing! —mc10 (u|t|c) 01:56, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
8. Support - Mlpearc powwow 02:17, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Note: this vote is for Assistant Coordinator. Mlpearc powwow 14:39, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

1. Support, but for assistant coordinator. --Slon02 (talk) 02:30, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
2. Support - fantastic copyeditor and content worker :) —Ancient Apparition • Champagne? • 2:18pm • 03:18, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
3. Support - • GenQuest • User Information • GenQuest • (Talk)
4. Support – I enjoy having this editor around, a great personality. --Tea with toast (talk) 03:53, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
5. Support for assistant copyeditor. // ⌘macwhiz (talk) 03:58, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
6. Support Love the enthusiasm! Lfstevens (talk) 05:03, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
7. Support. Competent, motivated, and determined. Definitely has what it takes to the job. -- œ^™ 08:10, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
8. Support - Chaosdruid (talk) 15:16, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
9. Support as assistant. Nolelover ^{It's football season!} 16:07, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
10. Support – There is no more dedicated editor on the platform. Carmarg4 (talk) 16:33, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
11. Support For assistant. A highly committed editor and asset to Wikipedia. Pol430 (talk) 18:32, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
12. Support - A hard worker with a variety of experience around the wiki. --Diannaa ^(Talk) 19:10, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
13. Support He's got experience and he helped me join this project. WAYNESLAM 20:33, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
14. Support. A prolific hard working contributor, who has greatly assisted the smooth running of the drives that I've participated in. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 14:03, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
15. Support - From what I have seen, an active, enthusiastic worker, wholly deserved of the position. I,E ^{• Wouldst thou speak?} 01:23, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
16. Support. MarmadukePercy (talk) 07:34, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
17. Strong support The Utahraptor has been a great asset to the Guild, helping out in our drives and newsletter, and has worked well behind the scenes. – SMasters (talk) 00:31, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Comments and questions

1. Do you have any idea what level of participation you will be at during 2011 on Wikipedia? About the same as this year, or less, or more? --Diannaa ^(Talk) 20:12, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

   I've been relatively busy with real life this year, but things are starting to clear up, so I'll probably be able to participate more next year. The Utahraptor^Talk/_Contribs 21:57, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

2. What is your reaction to a comment by Malleus Fatuorum that said "I wish you luck with your drive, but it's not for me. It may well be "elitist", but I'm only really interested in helping along those articles headed for FA/GA, where it's not just the grammar and spelling that's important, but the aricle's structure, accessibility, comprehensibility, referencing, image licencing " (link or full discussion)? Do you work on improving an article's structure, accessibility, comprehensibility, referencing, image licencing when you copyedit? Lunalet (talk) 00:36, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

   I respect Malleus as an editor, and I also respect his opinions. Being a member of the Guild is volunteer work; we can't, nor will we ever, force it onto anybody. In regards to what I do when I copy edit, I fix a lot of grammar mistakes when I copy edit. I also fix and add conversion templates, infoboxes, categories, and wikilinks where appropriate. If an article is overlinked, I remove a few wikilinks. The Utahraptor^Talk/_Contribs 14:37, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Derild4921

This candidate has withdrawn from the election

Derild4921 (talk · contribs) I joined the GOCE during their July copyedit drive and have since then participated in everyone since then. While my copyediting activity is not as high as it was back in the earlier drives, I still actively participant in new ideas and discussions. During the breaks between the drives I try and copyedit some pages anyways. If elected I'd help out wherever needed. Thanks. Derild4921☼ 22:05, 19 November 2010 (UTC) Support Strong support for Assistant, based on history of copyediting and vigilance with respect to the project. –Paul M. Nguyen (chat|blame) 01:11, 1 December 2010 (UTC) Support. The UtahraptorTalk/Contribs 02:19, 1 December 2010 (UTC) —Ancient Apparition • Champagne? • 2:19pm • 03:19, 1 December 2010 (UTC) S Wifione ....... Leave a message 15:27, 1 December 2010 (UTC) Support For assistant. Pol430 (talk) 18:35, 1 December 2010 (UTC) Support -- Diannaa (Talk) 19:13, 1 December 2010 (UTC) Comments and questions What is your response to a comment by Malleus Fatuorum, one of the most skilled and renowned copyeditors on Wikipedia? This comment appeared in User talk:Malleus Fatuorum/Archives/2010/June#Copyediting: "PS. This kind of thing is either a joke, or you need to up your game." (link) Have you wised up since June? Lunalet (talk) 00:12, 4 December 2010 (UTC) I admit that was a very terrible "copyedit". At that time at had somewhat of a "This looks cool so I'll join this" attitude, but I feel that I've definitely improved since June though I still make a few typo mistakes I need to go back and fix after a copyedit. Overall I think that comment was very true and apologize for the attitude I had at that time. Derild4921Review Me! 00:43, 4 December 2010 (UTC) In order for me to fully evaluate your improvements since June, please critique your copyedit linked above. What was wrong with it, and will you now fix the mistakes you made to the article? Lunalet (talk) 00:48, 4 December 2010 (UTC) The article as it is now or as it was when I "copyedited" it? Derild4921Review Me! 00:54, 4 December 2010 (UTC) In other words, in what way was your copyedit poor? And if these issues still stand, will you fix them now? Lunalet (talk) 00:57, 4 December 2010 (UTC) Generally I found that the copyedit was too shallow. All I did at the time was fix a few extremely obvious cases of typos and grammar, but not really anything else. Off the top of my head I see missing words not added, redundant words not removed, bad wording not fixed, wrong tenses not fixed and a typo not fixed. Derild4921Review Me! 01:13, 4 December 2010 (UTC) Will you fix it now? Imo, you made the article worse. women's → woman's, "when it reached number one on the Hot 100 the chart week of July 11, 2009. It was their second single to do so." → "when it reached number one on the Hot 100 during the week of July 11, 2009 making it was their second single to do so.", "What's more, 'I Gotta Feeling' is every bit as quirky as its predecessor." → "Crititcs also feel I've got a Feeling is every bit as quirky as its preceptor." Please fix those and other mistakes you purportedly discovered. Lunalet (talk) 01:24, 4 December 2010 (UTC) What is your reaction to a comment by Malleus Fatuorum that said "I wish you luck with your drive, but it's not for me. It may well be "elitist", but I'm only really interested in helping along those articles headed for FA/GA, where it's not just the grammar and spelling that's important, but the aricle's structure, accessibility, comprehensibility, referencing, image licencing " (link or full discussion)? Do you work on improving an article's structure, accessibility, comprehensibility, referencing, image licencing when you copyedit? Lunalet (talk) 01:01, 4 December 2010 (UTC) I don't find it "elitist" as everyone has their own interests and what they want to do. If he wants to check for everything then go for it. Generally I try to stay away from any kind of coding since I'm awful with it. (I can't even get an archiving bot to work!) Working with references is dreadful to me since there's just so many characters the only error I can notice is if I forget the closing />. I tend to stay away from structure since either the article is too small to need any reorganizing or the article has been maintained by an editor who may prefer their own way. I find comprehensibility the same as improving wording and grammar which I try to do and stay away from accessibility since it involves moving and reorganizing which like structure is either not necessary or may change how an editor prefers it. Derild4921Review Me! 01:13, 4 December 2010 (UTC) I have the same problem with coding as Derild. In fact, that is why I switched from APP to WC, because of an error in Javascript that I wrote that translated to a whiteout for my account. APP's userpage is at the link named "lost" in my sig. WikiCopter (radio • sorties • images • simplicity • lost • defense • attack) 01:33, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

WikiCopter

WikiCopter (talk · contribs)

I joined the GOCE during their August drive, (that makes me a newbie) but I have gotten acquainted with the overall running of the project. I'd say the GOCE is going pretty well, is very active, perhaps only surpassed by a small number of scattered projects. Coords would help to grease the bearings and post announcements. I would be happy to help with these tasks. I am also approved with MessageDeliveryBot, so I do not have to wait for verification of my deliveries before they are sent.

Support

1. Strong support for Assistant, based on availability, history of copyediting, and contributions to administrative activities here. MessageDeliveryBot is a plus. –Paul M. Nguyen (chat|blame) 01:11, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
2. Support- Always there to help. Just don't break EdoDodo's Bot :P. Mlpearc powwow 02:20, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

   Note: this vote is for Assistant Coordinator. Mlpearc powwow 14:39, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

3. Support - I've seen his work, his enthusiasm, copyediting and content contributions. —Ancient Apparition • Champagne? • 2:20pm • 03:20, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
4. S Wifione _....... ^{Leave a message} 15:27, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
5. Support Has proven his worth as one of the main coordinators of WikiProject Wikify drive. His willingness to help and work behind the scenes makes him a worthy candidate. – SMasters (talk) 00:36, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Comments and questions

Sorry, but MDB access is nice (I have it) but not something to elect someone on—anyone can get it by asking EdoDodo. ǝɥʇM0N0^farewell 01:17, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Or me, Xeno and Rock drum :P —Ancient Apparition • Champagne? • 2:20pm • 03:20, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

I guess so, but still, it is nice to have. WikiCopter (radio • sorties • images • lost • defense • attack) 20:34, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

1. What is your reaction to a comment by Malleus Fatuorum that said "I wish you luck with your drive, but it's not for me. It may well be "elitist", but I'm only really interested in helping along those articles headed for FA/GA, where it's not just the grammar and spelling that's important, but the aricle's structure, accessibility, comprehensibility, referencing, image licencing " (link or full discussion)? Do you work on improving an article's structure, accessibility, comprehensibility, referencing, image licencing when you copyedit? Lunalet (talk) 01:01, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

That is hard to answer, since I haven't written a FA yet. I usually tweak some of those things only when the articles are small, because when they are larger, it is harder to get them into good shape, and others have already done it. I never tweak image licensing, except for my own articles. Does that answer your question? To MF, sometimes Wikipedians have their own specialties, and I won't barge in. WikiCopter (radio • sorties • images • simplicity • lost • defense • attack) 01:31, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Tea with toast

Tea with toast (talk · contribs)

Hello! I've been a member of the GOCE since I joined wikipeadia about a year and a half ago, although I have only become an active member since the the September 2010 drive. I am an active member of many other WikiProjects, most notably, WikiProject Good articles, WikiProject Cats, and WikiProject Russia. I also frequently patrol the new pages and IP contributions. I have ideas about how to recruit new members, perhaps first by targeting active members of other WikiProjects. I would like to create a project invitation template (similar to {{WPCannabisInvite}}) and also start a welcoming committee as a way of retaining interested members. While I do not yet feel that I have the seniority to be a lead coordinator, I would enjoy being an assistant coordinator to contribute more fully to this project. Thanks! --Tea with toast (talk) 06:57, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Support

1. For enthusiasm throughout this drive. Derild4921Review Me! 00:41, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
2. Support for Assistant based on apparent enthusiasm, recent copyediting, and strength of other nominations. –Paul M. Nguyen (chat|blame) 01:11, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
3. Support - • GenQuest • User Information • GenQuest • (Talk)
4. Support - enthusiasm, combined with a good history of content contribution is always a net positive :) —Ancient Apparition • Champagne? • 2:27pm • 03:27, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
5. Support for assistant. // ⌘macwhiz (talk) 04:01, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
6. S Wifione _....... ^{Leave a message} 15:23, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
7. Support as assistant. Nolelover ^{It's football season!} 16:37, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
8. Support - Diannaa ^(Talk) 19:12, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

   Extremely nice support votes, from both you Dianaa and SMasters. It's good for the confidence of candidates. Regards Wifione _....... ^{Leave a message} 03:23, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

9. Support: WAYNESLAM 21:52, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
10. Support Active Guild member who is always willing to help. – SMasters (talk) 00:33, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

    Pl note my comment above. Kind regards. Wifione _....... ^{Leave a message} 03:24, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

11. Support Aichi --Aichikawa (talk) 20:14, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Comments and questions

1. What is your reaction to a comment by Malleus Fatuorum that said "I wish you luck with your drive, but it's not for me. It may well be "elitist", but I'm only really interested in helping along those articles headed for FA/GA, where it's not just the grammar and spelling that's important, but the aricle's structure, accessibility, comprehensibility, referencing, image licencing " (link or full discussion)? Do you work on improving an article's structure, accessibility, comprehensibility, referencing, image licencing when you copyedit? Lunalet (talk) 01:01, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

My reaction to Malleus Fatuorum's comments is that everyone has their own motives and opinions; so long as their edits are doing something to improve the content of Wikipedia, I have no problems with their motives. I believe everyone who is willing should be able to contribute to Wikipedia with whatever range of abilities they possess. As for my own style of editing, I always aim to do as much as I can to improve an article, which includes going beyond grammar to improve the article's structure, the accessibility of language to the general audience, the appropriateness of the images, the formatting and appropriateness of the references, and the comprehensibility of the articles when I am able. Admittedly, I may not be able to contribute much to comprehensibility of an article when I am not familiar with the topic; however, I usually add "expert needed" or other tags whenever there are problems with an article that I can not resolve. --Tea with toast (talk) 18:57, 4 December 2010 (UTC)