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  • Linguistic_modality: There is a request for attention by an expert on the page itself. I am currently teaching a graduate course on the subject and feel quite comfortable with it, so I am planning to transform it during the next few weeks. I'd welcome comments and discussions, in particular on the issue of mergin "Grammatical mood" with the page. For now, I think it would be a good idea, but I'm open for diverging views. Watasenia (talk) 11:06, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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The article on Coverbs actually describes "converbs" and a coverb is another phenomenon altogether. I'd like this article moved to converb (which currently redirects to coverb) so that an article on coverbs can be started. Jangari 11:16, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Coverbs and converbs are two different things, but it looks like this was already resolved: Talk:Converb#Wrong_PhenomenonUmofomia (talk) 11:32, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This article is heavily tagged in need of attention since March 2008 and from a quick read certainly needs it, I'm not expert on the subject but I think it's fairly wrong.86.9.126.174 (talk) 23:36, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This article is a confusing mess, specifically its very difficult to see how the topic is different from the subject of a sentence. Clearer examples, rules, etc as well as a short bit on the separation between topic and subject would be helpful.--Crossmr (talk) 15:32, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't mind a hand in getting this article more complete, it didn't even discuss conversational styles before. Irbisgreif (talk) 10:08, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please review this article and improve where necessary. --Zaheen (talk) 22:38, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

User:Athenean has alredy blanked three times (see [1], [2] and [3] 72 valid references of scholars from Gottfried Leibnitz to Shaban Demiraj to minimize the origin of the Albanian Language from Illyrian. sulmues (talk) --Sulmues 18:31, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Actually, Sulmues wants this incredible number of sources to highlight the (disputed) Illyrian-Albanian connection as much as possible, while conveniently ignoring any alternate theories (Thracian, Dacian). Athenean (talk) 19:00, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know anything about the speculative origins of Albanian, but 72 references does seem like too many. Sulmues, could you pare it down to maybe 5 essential, authoritative sources? Perhaps someone has already written a survey of this literature that you could simply cite? Indeterminate (talk) 07:48, 9 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Could we merge these? Either at SC plus a single grammar article, or if that is too contentious, all together as an "X grammar" article? I dread the edit wars it would spark if I tried this on my own. Of course, coming up with that "X" without mortally offending s.o. may be a problem. kwami (talk) 11:09, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think you've got it exactly right: in terms of grammar, there is no real reason to treat these separately, but in terms of politics it will be incredibly controversial to decide what to call that grammar. Omniglot uses "Serbian, Croatian and Bosnian"; both R. Katičić (1997) and R. Alexander (2006) use "Bosnian, Croatian, Serbian". Katičić, by the way, seems to suggest that this is not a proper solution (the title was chosen by his editor), as the distinctive dialects don't necessarily correspond to the national boundaries. Maybe we could undertake a broader scan of the literature - say, a survey of grammars published since 1992 - and try to determine if there is any consensus among linguists on what to call this/these language(s). Cnilep (talk) 15:46, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Turns out we have a nicely developed Serbo-Croatian grammar that was an orphan, so it will be easier than I thought. Naming is a separate issue; we can debate on what to call it, and change our minds, independently of the merge.
As for the dialects, all four official standards are based on East Hercegovinian. The current SC grammar article restricts itself to that. We have several separate dialects articles already, and IMO they're probably good as they are.
Montenegrin will be a bit tricky, as currently we have almost nothing. It has a couple extra letters which AFAIK are not phonemic and not widely used, though there are editors who insist they're both.
From comments on the talk pages, looks like there are half a dozen editors who are supportive. No-one opposed as of yet, though I suppose that's only a matter of time. kwami (talk) 18:07, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I closed the move discussion as stale. There was no consensus. Cnilep (talk) 05:21, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Orthography has a "Typology of spelling systems" that lists phonemic, morpho-phonemic, and defective as the three types. There is mention of alphabet, abjad, and syllabary only in passing and no mention of logographs. The section cites no sources and doesn't appear to reflect linguistic or related scholarship. Cnilep (talk) 04:25, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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