Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abu Baseer
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The result was keep. Eddie891 Talk Work 21:53, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
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Does not meet WP:GNG. Of the provided sources, [1] does not appear to mention the subject provides a narrative description of Baseer but does not provide analysis, [2] is self-published and thus likely unreliable, in addition to only providing coverage in the form of religious narrative that may not comprise significant coverage, [3] does not provide significant coverage, and [4] provides narrative coverage of questionable significance (and is old enough that I would hesitate to use it as a reliable secondary source). I wasn't able to find any additional coverage searching for various likely spellings of his name (as well as the Arabic name), although there does appear to be a Salafi imam by the same name who may be notable. signed, Rosguill talk 21:35, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. signed, Rosguill talk 21:35, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
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- Comment As a companion of the prophet he’s likely to be notable. There’s an ar.wiki on him here which isn’t linked to the en.wiki version for some reason. It cites Ibn al-Athīr who is a reliable source. Mccapra (talk) 05:51, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- Keep, Greetings, the first source does mention him as Abu Busir[5], he is mentioned in multiple works as a contemporary and companion of Mohamed and is invaluable in understanding the circumstances surrounding the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah. His name is written in different ways, Abu Basir, Abu Busir, Abu Baseer or Abu Baser etc[6]. --Ozan33Ankara (talk) 19:43, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, I hadn't tried "Busir" as an alternative spelling. Still, from reading that portion it seems like a bare description of narrative. I don't see any analysis of Baseer's role beyond recounting the narrative of Muhammad's life. signed, Rosguill talk 19:48, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- I actually made the page since the page Abu Jandal ibn Suhayl mentions him 3 times. Also the same source on the Abu Jandal page mentions him too, History of the Prophets and Kings or in Arabic ( Tarikh al-Tabari ), Volume 8 [7]. Based on this i believe that there is no doubt that Abu Baseer is a notable historical figure according to WP:N, as he has received coverage in numerous works. He is also pivotal to understanding Islam in it's infancy. That's why I am for keeping his article. --Ozan33Ankara (talk) 23:26, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- Keep - finds coverage in various Islamic history books. I have seen a good portion concerning him in Akbar Shah Najibabadi's Tārīkh-e-Islām. - Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 15:40, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Famous in Islamic history.— Hammad (Talk!) 16:33, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per sources now in the article and move to Abu Basir. Much more commonly transliterated that way. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 00:40, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep On the basis of the sources added. Mccapra (talk) 05:10, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
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