Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abu Omar al-Idlibi

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The result was keep. —⁠ScottyWong⁠— 05:59, 7 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Abu Omar al-Idlibi

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As a WP:BLP subject involved in what he is involved in, we should only write an article on him after the war has been properly documented in high quality independent sources, and those sources find his role in it to be significant. Such sources don't seem to exist yet. Fails WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO and WP:BLP.(NPP action) Usedtobecool ☎️ 14:11, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Usedtobecool ☎️ 14:11, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Syria-related deletion discussions. Usedtobecool ☎️ 14:11, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 14:49, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This article does need to be expanded and further sources do exist. He is a prominent figure covered by press, especially within the last 2 years. There's no prohibition on articles on such people provided they are properly sourced; there are numerous others (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:People_of_the_Syrian_civil_war and its subcategories) including far less notable ones. Lightspecs (talk) 22:55, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I read over the article, what in your opinion is he notable for? He is a defector and officer in the Syrian Democratic Forces, but what has he done that stands out above his other counterparts? Jamesallain85 (talk) 19:02, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The sources in the article are either iffy or without WP:SIGCOV, usually both. Which WP:THREE sources do you argue are BLP-reliable and have WP:SIGCOV? Usedtobecool ☎️ 02:20, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails WP:BASIC. Mztourist (talk) 02:56, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:49, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Generally regarded as one of the most important pro-PYD Arabs in Syria at the moment. Lots of Kurdish and Arab language sources talk about him. In addition, Usedtobecool's argument for deletion makes no sense; of course we can create articles on people who are involved in ongoin wars. Applodion (talk) 08:28, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If we have BLP-compliant sources, we can. If we can claim that there are sources but can present none, we can't. Usedtobecool ☎️ 12:51, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwaiiplayer (talk) 12:45, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, as he has received significant coverage in Kurdish sourcesJackattack1597 (talk) 19:26, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, as he appears to have received enough coverage to pass WP:NBASIC. Sources need not be in English. And, while the argument that we should only write an article on him after the war has been properly documented in high quality independent sources would appear to hold water, this article is on the individual, not the war itself. As a result, I don't see why we have to wait for the war to conclude to write about him; if the sources on the person exist now, then we wouldn't need to wait for sources on the war writ large. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 00:01, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.