Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brian Camelio

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Peacent 03:21, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Brian Camelio[edit]

Appears to fail notability guidelines. NMChico24 22:15, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 16:57, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
comment can't address other aspects, but he is only an adjunct instructor (at the New School)DGG (talk) 21:46, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, he is also a jazz faculty member of The New School[1][2], and has been credited by a few bands for guitar: Journey (band), Jim Hall (musician), Sean Harkness (click on Production Credits) and Gene Perla [3]. An audio interview, and he appears regularly in print and on tv representing his artists. John Vandenberg 03:43, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think the main thing to consider here is that he founded ArtistShare which is considered to be a very innovative new business model for music. He seems to be very well respected in his field and somewhat of an important figure (referred to as a post-modern Amhet Ertegun) http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601088&sid=aHkRoYzxmSnY&refer=muse —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.131.165.224 (talk) — 64.131.165.224 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh 18:49, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

comment Addressing comment above "can't address other aspects, but he is only an adjunct instructor (at the New School)" - this was found on http://www.artsjournal.com/artfulmanager/main/065031.php

"Founder Brian Camelio could be rightfully called a visionary, I'm proud that he's a member of the jazz faculty here at The New School for Jazz and Contemporary Music, NYC. Martin Mueller, Exec. Dir." - Clearly he is a person of note. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.131.165.224 (talk)

Strong keep. Very notable. New School is one of the most famous music colleges in the U.S., and Camelio is notable for more things than his teaching position there. Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 20:59, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: the article was pretty badly written; I've revised it a bit. It's better to revise than delete because deletion prevents any chance of improving the article, but improving the article doesn't necessarily prevent any chance of deletion. Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 21:35, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I think as far as his position at his school goes, he's generally unremarkable. But that combined with his creation of ArtistShare, that's enough for me to land on the side of keeping his article. Trusilver 21:43, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep, seems to have some claims to notability, but not sure if this article could be expanded. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps)))} 21:45, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, I think he's notable for founding ArtistShare.e.g. --Dhartung | Talk 22:03, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as notable, as per Trusilver and Dhartung, but also still a mess, as per Tlogmer. Bearian 23:50, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.