Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elza (film)

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The result was delete. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 09:52, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Elza (film)

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Does not satisify WP:NFF. Unable to find sources using terms like 'Elza India film' or 'Elza India movie' etc given that the title is a common term with different uses. Sources on the page are promotional and does not establish the notability of the subject. Article was draftified once, and moved back promptly by the author of the article. – robertsky (talk) 15:47, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. – robertsky (talk) 15:47, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. – robertsky (talk) 15:49, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify per WP:TOOSOON. Coverage is not independent and production has not be notable to meet WP:NFF. BOVINEBOY2008 15:56, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep : The article has a news reference from Times of India malayalam which is a detailed article about the movie including its release date. It mentions the movie has already started shooting and is set to release in Nov 2022. Thus WP:NFF wont stand. Moreover other significant news articles also furnished. Jehowahyereh (talk) 17:45, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Jehowahyereh exactly which part of that article indicated the release date and that the shooting had started? I don't see them using Google Translate. Do share the relevant quotes and translations. Thanks. – robertsky (talk) 17:49, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NFF is still applicable: films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should generally not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable per the notability guidelines. emphasis mine. The sources are repetative and one can argue that they may be regurgitation of press releases. They do not establish the notability of the subject. Having a release date does not guarantee the notability of the film. – robertsky (talk) 18:04, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The film's notability is proved as per the 2nd point of Inclusionary criteria of articles in WP:NFO as there are a number of notable persons involvement in the movie Jehowahyereh (talk) 12:14, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The second point of NFO needs to demonstrate that the notable person was significantly involved and is a major part of their career. Not just that notable persons are involved. BOVINEBOY2008 13:35, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

NFO: An article on the film should be created only if there is enough information on it that it would clutter up the biography page of that person if it was mentioned there. Is there enough information here to clutter up the respective actors' BLPs? No. – robertsky (talk) 20:01, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Definitely notable person was significantly involved and is a major part of their career. The composer of the movie is doing a multilingual movie for the first time and newspaper sources mentions he composes 25 songs for this movie. That is a major part of his career Jehowahyereh (talk) 03:08, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Again, does it clutter up the BLP? I see only one line of this at Jibin George Sebastian, the composer that you mention. – robertsky (talk) 03:39, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And the source for the 25 songs [1] starts as Musician Jibin George Sebastian has composed many songs in Hollywood and Mollywood industries - why does this film become a major part of his career ? — DaxServer (t · m · c) 09:51, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This movie is his debut to Bollywood, the most important movie Industry in India, which is vital and is a major part of his career Jehowahyereh (talk) 17:36, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That'd be your opinion. Can you provide a source which details/describes - this film being a major part of his career ? — DaxServer (t · m · c) 20:34, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, we'd need independent and reliable sources to explain how this film is a significant part of their career, not just an opinion of a Wikipedia user. -- Ab207 (talk) 05:53, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Indeed, I'm as well unable to find sources to determine whether the production is notable, per WP:NFF, thus failing WP:NFF and becoming a WP:TOOSOON. I would also argue for draftification, but the film release about half-an-year away. Upon release, and after establishing the notability, it could be simply recreated or be asked for a WP:REFUND — DaxServer (t · m · c) 10:57, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per DaxServer. Does not meet NFF at this point due to lack of significant coverage on its production. May be recreated if anad when it releases, and becomes notable under NFILM. -- Ab207 (talk) 12:14, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.