Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fiona Clark

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The result was delete and redirect to Fiona Kennedy. Sandstein 06:59, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fiona Clark

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Non-notable author and educator. Article should be deleted under WP:BLPPROD except that there was an existing redirect prior to the redirect being hijacked for this page. Recommend restoring redirect. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:16, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Restore Redirect Agree with nominator, this individual does not meet notability requirements and the article reads more like an autobiography than an encyclopedia.--VViking_TalkEdits 13:19, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The redirection from Fiona Clark (photographer) was removed as this page exists as an article its own right. Did not mean to hijack that page, apologies for this error. Just simply suggesting Fiona Clark as a standalone article (not linked in any way to Fiona Clark (photographer). Please consider this option. Alternatively the heading could be changed to Fiona Clark (author)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dolly4321 (talk • contribs) 13:50, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Dolly4321: The point here is that there is not sufficient evidence that Fiona Clark (the author about whom you have written) merits inclusion at Wikipedia. You'll need to convince us otherwise. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:35, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Fiona Clark's body of work in education, spanning 25 years, has becoming increasingly prolific among scholars, students and academics at universities and other places of learning, so much so, that an article in Wikipedia would assist these learners and educators in their citation and provide a reference point for clarification. Her work stretches internationally, not only with the published work, but also her collaborations in Japan with Lead Teacher and presenter Naomi Toland; in the USA with leading psychologist Martin Seligman; and among educational settings in the UK. University College London invited Fiona to collaborate on a Knowledge Exchange Programme when they discovered the important research she is conducting regarding the impact of creativity on the brain to help regulate emotion and behaviour, and improve the person's overall wellbeing. This is linked with Dr Daisy Fancourt's work in the same field - and has become significant in helping heal children and adults suffering from mental illness. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dolly4321 (talk • contribs) 17:47, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Dolly4321: We'll need proof of your assertions in the form of independent coverage in reliable sources. Please read Wikipedia's guidance on notability of people to understand who merits inclusion at Wikipedia, and how that notability is verified. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:55, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - A WP:BEFORE search reveals nothing to substantiate notability of this writer and educator. Fails WP criteria to meet WP:PROF, WP:AUTHOR or WP:GNG. The unsourced biographical detail in the article combined with the headshot photo uploaded by the article creator suggests this may be a COI entry. Netherzone (talk) 18:45, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - per WP:NAUTHOR as there do not seem to be any reviews of her books in notable outlets or any awards that she has won. --hroest 19:12, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In response to the above comment about reviews of books, please scroll down to the 'MEDIA REVIEWS' for A Practical Guide to Creative Writing in Schools (Routledge, 2021) on this page from Waterstones bookseller. https://www.waterstones.com/book/a-practical-guide-to-creative-writing-in-schools/fiona-clark/9780367562649

Biographical detail sourced from Speaking of Books website https://speakingofbooks.co.uk/training-inset-workshop-providers/

However, if this article fails to meet the criteria, and the author is not notable, please feel free to delete the article. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dolly4321 (talk • contribs) 19:45, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dolly4321 The waterstones link you provided is not what WP considers to be a reliable source that is independent from the subject. Rather, it is a user-submitted "review" on a webpage to sell books; which is analogous to a "review" on Amazon. What would be considered an independent reliable source would be a book review featured in a peer-reviewed journal; newspaper article, or the like. See: WP:RS for more information. The other link seems to be an event or speaker booking website. Could you please tell us if you have a connection to Fiona Clark? The reason I ask is that it seems that you took the photograph of her headshot used in the article. Thank you. Netherzone (talk) 20:42, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your time on this. All of your points have helped to clarify my understanding of what is required for an article. As mentioned above, please delete the article. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dolly4321 (talk • contribs) 21:09, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I can't see any approach to passing WP:Prof. Xxanthippe (talk) 07:15, 6 October 2021 (UTC).[reply]
Delete and then recreate redirect fails WP:PROF and WP:AUTHOR. Best, GPL93 (talk) 19:12, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and restore redirect. I found news coverage for New Zealand photographer Fiona Clark, entertainment executive Fiona Clark, Ecuadorian-Irish film festival director Fiona Clark, and founder of McGill Community for Lifelong Learning Fiona Clark. I found news reports by financial reporter Fiona Clark, and multiple scholarly book reviews for Victims, Perpetrators or Actors? Gender, Armed Conflict and Political Violence, co-edited by independent scholar Fiona C. Clark, and for Ireland and Medicine in the Seventeenth and Eighteenth Centuries: The History of Medicine in Context, co-edited by Fiona Clark, a historian of medicine at Queen's University Belfast. These searches did not turn up any coverage of or reviews for psychologist and children's book author Fiona Clark, the subject of the nominated article. Perhaps there are too many other more-notable Fionas Clark making the searches difficult; there is still time for someone to demonstrate notability. But with no evidence of notability in the article itself, none in the earlier comments here, and none in my searches, the conclusion is clear. We could probably make a dab page instead of a redirect, but not unless/until someone creates articles on the some of the others. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:35, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.