Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/J.Derobie (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Sourcing hasn't been provided. Spartaz ^Humbug! 23:24, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

J.Derobie

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Fails MUSICBIO. No indepth mention in any RS MistyGraceWhite (talk) 19:44, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ghana-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 20:36, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 20:36, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:47, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete. The subject lacks in-depth coverage in reliable secondary sources. He fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. He did released the hit single "Poverty" and was nominated for multiple VGMAs, but I think this is a case of WP:TOOSOON. None of the songs he has released has been discussed in reliable source. Versace1608 ^{Wanna Talk?} 12:57, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep as he had a hit single and was nominated for some notable music awards but more significant coverage in reliable sources is needed, hence a weak keep, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 19:32, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. J.Derobie has so many independent sources speaking about him an his music which makes him pass of as notable to have an article. He also has been nominated in two major awards schemes in Ghana and has won one award from one of the award scheme.Owula kpakpo (talk) 16:10, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Owula kpakpo He has not won any major award in music, he has won a very minor award. An award whose facebook page is barely noticeable with only 25K likes, and whose twitter is even less popular. Saying that this award somehow allows him to inherit notability is wrong on so many levels. MistyGraceWhite (talk) 17:28, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@MistyGraceWhite: So to you an award has to have lots of social media following to become major is that the argument you making. 3 music awards is in it's third year of existence a simple Google search who would show you how popular and major the scheme is to Ghanaians and Ghanaian musicians. I live in Ghana and I believe with benefit of my location I am confident of my assertion that the award scheme is major is very right. Using social media numbers to make such an assertion is not right mind you 3 music awards is featured in almost every prominent media website in Ghana.Owula kpakpo (talk) 17:53, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Owula kpakpo it may be a major award to you, but it is not mentioned in any Reliable sources as being a major award, so according to wikipedia it is a minor almost nothing award. The social media numbers were just to explain it to you, but seeing that you did not get my point, it does not matter. The award is a minor award according to wikipedia standards, and winning such a minor award does not make this guy notable. MistyGraceWhite (talk) 17:58, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@MistyGraceWhite: again the fact that the awards scheme doesn't have a Wikipedia page doesn't mean it's a minor awards unless you can point to a Wikipedia position on what a minor awards or major awards is which you clearly not added in your response to me. Like I said in Ghana the Multimedia Group Limited is a major media house and for them to be partnering with this awards should tell you the pedigree of such an award. Like I said if you have the benefit of the Ghanaian media landscape you would understand clearly why I say so. So as it stands it's your word against mine so bring something substantial with your critique.Owula kpakpo (talk) 18:11, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Owula kpakpo It is not my word against yours, it is the view of reliable sources against your opinion. You are misinterpreting the ANYBIO#1. The awards mentioned there, the kind which confer notability and allow a person to actually inherit notability in a way, are the ones which are given due a significant impact of that person's work in his field. You should instead consult the MUSICBIO guideline which points out that a major award isslike d|Grammy]], Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award"

@MistyGraceWhite: I do not believe the 3 Music Awards is a major award. However, the Vodafone-sponsored Ghana Music Awards is the biggest in Ghana. If Ghana was the U.S, the GMA would be equivalent to the Grammys. I also feel it is wrong to mention those awards in your response. How many African artists are going to get nominated for those awards? Among the list of awards you pointed out, only the Grammy has awarded African-based acts. The only reason why I support a deletion is because the subject has not done enough at this time. If he releases a body of work that is actually discussed in reliable sources, I will change my #vote. Versace1608 ^{Wanna Talk?} 19:04, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sulfurboy (talk) 08:33, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.