Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Johnny Mann (actor)

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The result was Delete. —Quarl ^(talk) 2007-03-08 13:36Z

Johnny Mann (actor)

I think this is a hoax, but for once, it wasn't played on Wikipedia but rather the the source that was used in good faith by the article creator. Other than the obituary which is referenced and provides the material used for the article, I can't verify the claims, which if true should be easy to verify. I note that while IMDB has an entry for a Johnny Mann (I) and a Johnny Mann (III) there is no Johnny Mann (II) which leads me to suspect that they were hit by the hoax but later discovered it, deleting that entry. The only innocent explanation I can think of is that he was credited under a different screen name, but if that's the case, we really need that name for this article to be of any use. Caerwine Caer’s whines 06:41, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. This isn't a hoax, but he wasn't notable. He really did exist (I'm looking at an obit from a Palm Springs, CA newspaper with his photograph and with a direct quote from the wife of the bandleader Johnny Mann, who says she wishes her husband dressed as well as this guy always did). The problem is that the man's notability was exaggerated quite innocently after his death. He may have worked as a walk-on or extra in soap operas and movies; generally there's a set number of lines an actor has to say in order to be credited, and he probably didn't make the credits cut in any of the things he did. I think what happened is that the writer of the Palm Springs obituary took Mann's roles to be more involved than Mann or his widow ever claimed they were, then when the AP picked up the obituary and condensed it they made him seem even more important. For instance, the AP report talks about a "recurring role" in Highway to Heaven. A recurring role is generally meant these days to mean a major role in two or more episodes. The original obituary didn't use that term. So yes, delete, but not as hoax. --Charlene 13:58, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Gotta agree with Charlene there. Delete per nom, but only for lack of any real notability. Sorry. --Dennisthe2 19:16, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Charlene Alf^Photoman 19:59, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as above. Metamagician3000 08:10, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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