Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Luca (Pixar film)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Missvain (talk) 15:58, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Luca (Pixar film)

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This is an unreleased film, and does not satisfy

- film notability guidelines, which primarily apply to films that have been viewed and reviewed.
- notability guidelines for future films, which provide that unreleased films may be considered notable if production itself has been notable, and this article says nothing about production.
- general notability guidelines, because this article says nothing except that the film will be released.

This article has no independent reliable sources, only Twitter, which is not a reliable source, and a web site for the film.

This film was already the subject of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Luca (2021 film), and nothing has changed. The previous deletion discussion was closed as Draftify, and the draft is at Draft:Luca (2021 film). This version of the article contains less information than the deleted article, and has been tagged for G4, but the nomination has not been acted on, so renominating for a deletion discussion. Since the draft already exists, this version of the article should be deleted again. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:47, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:47, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:47, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:47, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: this should've been a speedy deletion as a recreation of a previously deleted article. We already have a draft on the subject and an article like this has been deleted before. El Millo (talk) 17:59, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:NFF and per speedy WP:G4. Also not the proper location of final article. After deletion consider adding a redirect to the same location as the redirect at Luca (2021 film) currently does, and tag as {{R avoided double redirect|Luca (2021 film)}}. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:04, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails WP:NFILM. Might suggest salting the article until (and if) it passes the notability criteria. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 18:31, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep even if the naming needs tweaking. Covered in Variety [1], Entertainment Weekly [2], SF Chronicle [3], Cheddar [4]. IHateAccounts (talk) 19:13, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- None of which has anything to do with the fact that Draft:Luca (2021 film) has precedence. Thus, this version should be deleted, and then it can be discussed if Draft is ready to be moved to mainspace. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:39, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Delete under G4 - Why does this keep getting created over and over again? Foxnpichu (talk) 22:33, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: There is a discussion on my talk page about this. According to Starzoner, production has started due to there being footage to show at Investor's Week. I've asked them to find some more solid confirmation that production has started, but I wanted to throw this out there as a possible reason why this draft may have been put out there now. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:12, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Priority should be given to Draft:Luca (2021 film) (disclosure, I created the page). For example, this page shows that the first few images of the film are released, with images sourced from Pixar. Footage shown at the Disney Investors Day was not released online. Starzoner (talk) 13:31, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Absolutely – what ReaderofthePack or IHateAccounts state has no bearing on the fact that Draft:Luca (2021 film) has precedence and is the version that gets moved into mainspace if/when that is appropriate. So none of this changes the fact that this version that this AfD is about needs to be deleted, for several reasons. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 03:25, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - If somebody really wants the contents here kept, we could merge some of it into the draft. Foxnpichu (talk) 10:34, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - There is no information here that isn't already in the draft. El Millo (talk) 15:48, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      - Even more of a reason to speedy delete. Foxnpichu (talk) 20:00, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete since even the creator says that priority should be given to the Draft and other reviews have determined there is no content to merge into the draft. If there is enough to truly show that the film's no longer in pre-production, then publish the draft. Note that a trailer doesn't necessarily mean that the equivalent of filming has started; it's possible for animation projects to have trailers created strictly for promotional purposes with none of that "footage" used in the film. -2pou (talk) 19:01, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge plot synopsis into draft page.★Trekker (talk) 20:07, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- The plot synopsis is editorialized and the wording is too close to the source. El Millo (talk) 20:14, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - This is a Pixar film, and Pixar has ultras, enthusiastic fans who support their studio without regard to film notability and neutral point of view. In this case, the ultras may be trying to race each other to get credit. The responsibility of the community is to enforce boring rules such as notability and neutral point of view. Robert McClenon (talk) 07:51, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- That definitely seems to be the case here. Foxnpichu (talk) 12:05, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as the draft is much better done than this one. Considering a trailer was shown privately at the investor thing, the draft should get published very soon, and we won't be needing this one. I find it unlikely a person will search "Luca (Pixar film)" so a redirect would be unnecessary. Iamnoahflores (talk) 02:00, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Chompy Ace 06:19, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete but move draft to mainspace right away. It's time. Jikybebna (talk) 15:14, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.