Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mayor Quimby
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Somewhere between keep and merge, therefore default keep. Discuss merge at talkpage. Tone 07:54, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
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Not seeing how this fictional character passes WP:GNG/WP:NFICTION. Pure WP:PLOT. Real world impact and significance limited to a single mention of him during a real world election campaign. Hardly sufficient to warrant a stand alone article. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:26, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:26, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 02:36, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
- Keep There is enough coverage for this recurring character from the longest-running primetime scripted series The Simpsons. Lightburst (talk) 02:58, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
- Care to actually link it here and provide a shred of analysis that would suggest they go beyond mentions in passing/repeating fictional character biography? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:36, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
- Keep - Well known character in long-running televsion series. WP:GNG met based on the following references - 1 2 3 4, particularly refs 2 and 3. FOARP (talk) 08:34, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
- A paragraph stating that 'he is a stereotypical [caricature of] a politician" is hardly an in-depth analysis and no source goes beyond that. Even the dog and the cat of the Simpsons family are streotypical caricatures of cats and dogs, Neither is notable... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:02, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
- Did you read either the Guardian article or the iPolitics article? To be clear, the Guardian article is some 10 paragraphs and ~1000 words long, all of which compares the Quimby character to real-world equivalents and as such discusses the character in depth. FOARP (talk) 13:54, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
- @FOARP: I did, and it's few mentions in passing, out of which the best is "Quimby is good satire for a reason. He embodies exactly we suspect of small-time populist politicians: that they’re two-bit and on the take. Quimby’s stock self-endorsement (“Vote Quimby!”) no matter the situation – say, caught during an extramarital moment at the Sleep-Eazy Motel – is the calling card of a panderer we all recognise: the politician whose own crookedness has convinced him that no scandal could ever outlive the permanent campaign." I don't think a sentence or two can be argued to be in-depth coverage. If all that can be said about a character when it comes to real world impact/reception/analysis is that he is a caricature of the politician, with maybe a sentence explaining it, I don't think that's sufficient to merit a stand alone article. Now, if there was a source that analyzed how Quimby (or Wiggum) fit into such stereotypes for a few paragraphs, discussing different dimension of said streotypes and how they fit in them, I'd be convinced that's good enough. But all we have for them are one-two liners. I am sorry, this can be better managed in a list. There is nothing to justify splitting them from a list into stand-alone articles, once fictional bio cruft/media appearances trivia list is cut. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:41, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
- Did you read either the Guardian article or the iPolitics article? To be clear, the Guardian article is some 10 paragraphs and ~1000 words long, all of which compares the Quimby character to real-world equivalents and as such discusses the character in depth. FOARP (talk) 13:54, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
- Merge to List of recurring Simpsons characters, the references are not about Quimby, generally, just reference him in regards to other topics.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 01:02, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
- Keep due to significance to millions of people in the real world. --131.123.51.67 (talk) 15:35, 15 November 2019 (UTC) — 131.123.51.67 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Merge to List of recurring Simpsons characters. A minor character who is not notable. I fail to see why millions of people need this article. What do they do with it?--Jack Upland (talk) 08:45, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
- Regret that they haven't read the more informative https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/Joe_Quimby in the first place? Keeping substandard articles here is a disservice to the readers where they should be simply directed to the wikia article. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:10, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
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