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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Player has received some coverage, but there is no consensus as to whether this is sufficient for GNG. The weeks extension to the debate led to no new arguments being put forward. Fenix down (talk) 07:18, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mohammed Tanko

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A quick search on Google is the fact that the players fail WP:GNG as the only references are transfer based articles that this player was involved in. HawkAussie (talk) 22:56, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. HawkAussie (talk) 22:56, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. HawkAussie (talk) 22:56, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ghana-related deletion discussions. HawkAussie (talk) 22:56, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Can't see the point of any article that doesn't meet the GNG as it is bound to be no more than a sentence or two, usually transcribed from a statistical source. There has to be enough to produce a readable narrative. No Great Shaker (talk) 22:59, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Not sure why this was nominated, even though his appearance in Spain was minimal the Ghana Premier League is a fully professional league and there's lots of coverage of his goalscoring in Ghanaian press, four goals in the first half of the 2017 season for Aduana Stars - what I couldn't find is an article specifically on him with the exception of [1], but this is a perfectly valid stub which passes WP:NFOOTY. A "quick search on Google" isn't enough of a WP:BEFORE search either, sorry - he was difficult to search for since he shares a fairly common name with an Nigerian judge who also has a Wikipedia article, but once I searched in Spanish and found the right search term, found a lot of mentions. SportingFlyer T·C 23:42, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 07:49, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. The sourcing, such as [2], clearly falls short of significant coverage. No Great Shaker explains well why the requirement of significant coverage is important. The absence of coverage here rebuts any presumption of notability conferred by the subject playing at a professional level. --Mkativerata (talk) 08:55, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep - Article is about a footballer who has played several seasons in the Ghanaian Premier League, and one source indicates he was the league's leading scorer early in his career at Heart of Lions. His brief stint as a professional in Spain appears to have generated no significant coverage, and his exploits in Ghana have primarily generated routine coverage (transfer announcements and match reports), but my sense from my brief online research is that he did receive significant coverage in the Ghanaian press prior to or around the time of his move to Spain - it's just difficult to locate years old Ghanaian sources online. As his career winds down, I expect there will be some additional sourcing commemorating his exploits which will better justify the article's existence. Jogurney (talk) 14:07, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep passes WP:NFOOTY.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 03:21, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete there is not significant coverage. The current notability guidelines for footballers are clearly flawed and should be scapped if they are broad enough to cover this individual.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:38, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep NFOOTY passed fairly convincingly with multiple seasons in the Ghana Premier League, which is listed at WP:FPL. Also: As mentioned numerous times before, including just yesterday (8/8), an AfD isn't the place to share your, even if valid, disagreements with current guidelines. R96Skinner (talk) 11:53, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete – I'm not seeing sources tell us how many appearances this player has in a fully-professional league, so I can't tell "by how much" they pass NFOOTY. Regardless, there doesn't appear to be any sources to satisfy WP:GNG. I'm not convinced by the WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES argument; the article can be recreated when those sources are found or written. – Levivich 21:09, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • He's been in the top scorers in 2017 [3] and he scored in a cup final in 2009 [4] [5], so "how much" isn't an issue. There's also Spanish transfer news on top of the ton of Ghanaian mentions [6], a mention of his faith here [7]. He's also known as Tanko Mohammed (not for GNG but see: [8]) and was called up to the Black Stars at least once. [9] [10] [11] There's lots out there, not a lot of specific coverage, but this isn't a "must be sources" situation. SportingFlyer T·C 23:07, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • Point taken about "there must be sources", but – and you knew I was going to say this – I just don't see WP:THREE from among the sources put forward here so far. – Levivich 17:21, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
        • I obviously disagree with you, there are plenty of sources out there with which an article can be created, including the articles already in the entry, and the Ghanaian press frequently does not profile players in the same way as western press might. SportingFlyer T·C 01:19, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as he clearly passes WP:NFOOTY. That being said, I completely agree that that SNG is flawed, but as another editor has pointed out, we can attempt to change the guideline, but as long as the guideline is what it is, we should abide by it.Onel5969 TT me 11:20, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm not sure that aspect of the guideline needs changing. WP:ATH already explicitly says that meeting an SNG doesn't mean an article's subject is automatically notable: Please note that the failure to meet these criteria does not mean an article must be deleted; conversely, the meeting of any of these criteria does not mean that an article must be kept. These are merely rules of thumb which some editors choose to keep in mind when deciding whether or not to keep an article that is on articles for deletion, along with relevant policies and guidelines such as Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Also, FAQ Q2 at WT:ATH is directly on point: Q2: If a sports figure meets the criteria specified in a sports-specific notability guideline, does this mean he/she does not have to meet the general notability guideline? A2: No, the article must still eventually provide sources indicating that the subject meets the general notability guideline ... – Levivich 17:21, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down (talk) 22:07, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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