Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/NIILM University

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The result was delete‎. After discarding the SPA/canvassed/sock votes, we're left with a unanimous agreement to delete. Owen× ☎ 20:59, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NIILM University

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This fails WP:NORG. A WP:BEFORE revealed no useful potential references. The current references are one of: a) By NIILM, b) Announcements by NIILM, c) listings showing it exists. Private Universities do not get a free ride. WP:GNG failure, and WP:ADMASQ 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:11, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Business, Education, and India. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:11, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: It may be that the NIILM Education Trust is notable. If so that article needs to be written and NIILM University should then be covered in that article. I doubt that outcome is within the scope of an AfD discussion. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:16, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I can't find reliable sources covering this org in depth. A few brief mentions, essentially WP:TRIVIALMENTIONs, and little else. The WP:RS cited in opposing !votes are insufficient; hardly meeting the standards of WP:SIGCOV. So, no significant coverage from reliable sources. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NSCHOOL. Not worth keeping. GhostOfNoMeme 20:24, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Why raise this tag? Naduz (talk) 18:46, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.surjewala.in/pages/NIILM-University Naduz (talk) 18:56, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a lot of reference Naduz (talk) 18:57, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.punjabnewsexpress.com/campus-buzz/news/a-special-seminar-on-legal-literacy-mission-held-at-niilm-university-kaithal-239351 Naduz (talk) 18:59, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_institutions_of_higher_education_in_Haryana Naduz (talk) 19:51, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Naduz The three supposed references you have given are as stated in my nomination. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:59, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Haryana-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:39, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Haryana State Higher Education Council also referred

https://hshec.org/welcome/university_details/84 Naduz (talk) 19:49, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Im one of the student of this university and since 2011 the university starts Naduz (talk) 19:53, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Naduz I hope you enjoy studying there and have a successful future career. The reference you quote is as stated in my nomination. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 21:00, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

So what to do ? Naduz (talk) 02:59, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What more do I have to share? Naduz (talk) 03:20, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The sources are reliable? Naduz (talk) 03:42, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is a university near where I live. Wiki-CBO (talk) 05:14, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is a private university recognized by the Directorate of Higher Education Haryana Government.

The university is listed on of the Directorate of Education Board, Government of Haryana

https://www.highereduhry.ac.in/forms/WebPages/Universities#Pvt Wiki-CBO (talk) 05:18, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Wiki-CBO Please don't just suggest things that fail. The reference you quote is as stated un my nomination. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 10:05, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please tell me what should I share? Wiki-CBO (talk) 13:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Wiki-CBO Nothing. But you may seek to improve the article. WP:HEY may interest you. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:37, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please suggest me what will i improve the article? Wiki-CBO (talk) 17:45, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Wiki-CBO With respect, the nomination is clear. Editing the article to remove those concerns is likely to sway the discussion in its favour. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 17:52, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I removed social media links from article Wiki-CBO (talk) 18:04, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I removed all my contribution of the university Wiki-CBO (talk) 19:11, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is very informative article is there in Kaithal and a large number of alumnus have studied here. 2409:40F3:1D:6253:50D7:89FF:FE71:7BF6 (talk) 06:46, 16 July 2024 (UTC) — 2409:40F3:1D:6253:50D7:89FF:FE71:7BF6 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 10:11, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Poor and unreliable primary sources from the university website. Page does not satisfy the notability guidelines for organizations. Fails WP:NSCHOOL. RangersRus (talk) 18:06, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Lack inline citations, no WP:RS. But, articles like these can often be improved, and may not need to be deleted if they match up WP:HEY. Charlie (talk) 18:09, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep:

Got WP:RS

Voter Aawareness Program held at NIILM University.

https://www.bhaskar.com/local/haryana/kaithal/news/voter-awareness-program-held-at-niilm-university-132025861.html Naduz (talk) 16:41, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Showing Results in

University Grants Commission (India)

https://www.ugc.gov.in/universitydetails/Private_university_other?id=613

•Khelo India University Games 2023 medals tally: Full list of winners, NIILM University is listed 111.

https://olympics.com/en/news/khelo-india-university-games-2022-medals-tally-kiug-winners-list

•Going by the Haryana Private Universities Act 2006, an application containing the proposal and the project report with proof of land to establish a university in private sector has to be made by the sponsoring body to the government, along with nonrefundable fee of Rs 10 lakh. An application to set up a private university at Palwal in Faridabad was received on June 16, 2009, from NIILM Education Trust, Faridabad, along with the fee, but the Trust changed the location from Palwal to Kaithal during the presentation of the case on January 4, 2010.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/punjab/51-teachers-in-4-haryana-pvt-varsities-were-grads-or-less/story-pZ0ZxaU7UXozOHe5jkc0qL.html :Naduz (talk) 16:48, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

•Management of NIILM University booked for submitting ‘bogus’ papers to get scholarship.

https://indianexpress.com/article/education/management-of-niilm-university-booked-for-submitting-bogus-papers-to-get-scholarship-5330156/ Wikibuddys (talk) 14:30, 19 July 2024 (UTC)— Wikibuddys (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Delete no evidence of notability of any kind, and a search finds nothing better. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:47, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Respectively,

Found from Google Scholar

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=niilm+university&oq=NIILM+Univ#d=gs_qabs&t=1721495042243&u=%23p%3DVdkMeKmVKWUJ Naduz (talk) 17:07, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Multiple sources, but need to improve the article.
Wiki-CBO (talk) 19:34, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article has had 11 years to improve, this is hardly a hasty AfD of a new article. The nominator carried out a BEFORE search, as did I, and no better sources could be found. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:52, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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- Someone removes all previously reliable sources Wikibuddys (talk) 19:14, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I fail the exam so delete this 2409:40F3:C:C22:584A:99FF:FE1A:D6D9 (talk) 12:13, 17 July 2024 (UTC) — 2409:40F3:C:C22:584A:99FF:FE1A:D6D9 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. IP editor warned for vandalism to the article 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 12:03, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I have performed a brief source analysis:

Source 1: https://www.niilmuniversity.ac.in/page/chancellors-message Primary source.

Source 2: https://www.niilmuniversity.ac.in/page/vice-chancellors-message Primary source

Source 3: https://hshec.org/welcome/university_details/84 listing that shows it exists. No significant coverage

Source 4: https://www.ugc.gov.in/oldpdf/Private%20University/Private%20University%20Consolidated%20List%20Private%20Universities%20as%20on%2019.09.2017.pdf List of private universities. No significant coverage

Source 5: https://www.hindustantimes.com/punjab/51-teachers-in-4-haryana-pvt-varsities-were-grads-or-less/story-pZ0ZxaU7UXozOHe5jkc0qL.html significant coverage, but not of the fact cited. RS

Source 6: https://www.punjabnewsexpress.com/campus-buzz/news/a-special-seminar-on-legal-literacy-mission-held-at-niilm-university-kaithal-239351 A report 0f 4 paragraphs for a seminar organised by a department. Does not support the fact cited

Source 7: https://niilmuniversity.ac.in/page/about-us Primary sourced

Source 8: https://www.niilmuniversity.ac.in/blog/22/is-niilm-university-ugc-approved-or-not#:~:text=Yes%2C%20NIILM%20University%20holds%20approvals,and%20recognition%20of%20its%20degrees Primary source

Source 9: https://www.iesonline.co.in/niilm-university-kaithal/courses List of courses. Not significant coverage

None of these sources verify any notability. A few verify simple facts. Two purport to cite what they do not 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 21:30, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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