Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/STP Kabaty
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was merge to M1 (Warsaw)#Depots. Liz Read! Talk! 05:42, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
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Reviewed during NPP. No indication of wp:notability under SNG or GNG. The SNG for p[laces explicitly says that they are not presumed notable and must meet GNG. Has not even one reference anywhere near GNG. North8000 (talk) 01:46, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment : The polish wiki has significantly more info.... much of it unsourced. https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stacja_Techniczno-Postojowa_Kabaty
- I assume there might be information in polish to help prove notability, but as I can't speak polish, and polish wiki has no useful citations to help, I'd vote delete unless folks can find them. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 02:22, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Stations, Transportation, and Poland. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 06:44, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to M1 (Warsaw)#Depots unless sufficient sourcing can be found. Plausible search term, but the sourcing isn't yet there. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 06:54, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect. I've started an AfD on pl wiki at pl:Wikipedia:Poczekalnia/artykuły/2024:07:14:Stacja Techniczno-Postojowa Kabaty; the current consensus is that it is a notable entity but nobody can or cares to add sources to prove it. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:27, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. STP Kabaty is a crucial element of Warsaw’s metro system, servicing both M1 and M2 lines. It is the only technical support center for the metro in Warsaw and Poland, underlining its unique and essential function. The lack of current sources is a valid concern, but it can be rectified. The article can be improved with proper sourcing and should not be disqualified solely based on this temporary deficiency. Thousands of articles on smaller and less significant railway infrastructure exist on Wikipedia. Deleting one of the larger and more critical stations would be inconsistent and unjustified. The article has been part of Wikipedia for a significant period, and there is generally no consensus for deleting such longstanding entries due to sourcing issues. Instead, there are templates and processes for indicating the need for additional citations and improvements. Paradygmaty (talk) 11:51, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- The issue isn't "sourcing issues" per se. The issue is that in order to establish wp:notability, a requirement to have a separate article, it needs GNG sources......a GNG source is an independent published source which covers the topic of the article in depth. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 13:43, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. The Polish Wikipedia community has decided today to retain the article. Paradygmaty (talk) 11:53, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: It's all about the sources and those arguing to Keep this article have to demonstrate that RS exist to support claims in this article. A source review would be useful.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 01:42, 21 July 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 05:43, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- Merge into M1 (Warsaw)#Depots. Both articles are short. The Kabaty article very short. It's an unjustified SPINOFF even before considering notability and the contents would assist the parent article. gidonb (talk) 03:58, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.