Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spell Wars

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The result was delete. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:25, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Spell Wars

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This doesn't appear to be a notable book or one that exists at all. Searching via title and author gives nothing but a circular source from google books (which literally cites Wikipedia), the ISBN returns nothing in the usual places or anywhere else. And on the off chance it does exist, it certainly isn't notable. PRAXIDICAE🌈 00:45, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: it seems to exist, but I can't find any reliable sources on it: a Google search gives a book titled Epic Spell Wars of The Battle Wizards, and News returns unrelated stuff. weeklyd3 (message me | my contributions) 00:50, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see how that proves it's existence in light of the fact that the information likely came from WP. PRAXIDICAE🌈 00:53, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
the website says it came from an Amazon.com product record, on April 30, 2008, more than a year after this article was created. the record doesn't exist anymore, and I can't find any archives. but I'm not sure if Amazon didn't copy over Wikipedia, and it's late date and current unavailability might still indicate citigenesis. TryKid ^{[dubious – discuss]} 01:13, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: certainly non-notable if it exists at all. TryKid ^{[dubious – discuss]} 01:13, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, no evidence the book exists. All signs point to WP:HOAX. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 03:47, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 05:17, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 05:17, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:NBOOK. If there is no challenge this is a hoax, this edit should stay, otherwise, it will need to be reverted. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:43, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I can't even find this book mentioned on the author's own website. The book seems to be unverifiable, or even if real, non-notable. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 20:24, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'd be curious for someone to tweet her and ask. PRAXIDICAE🌈 20:26, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. As far as I can tell, this is either a hoax or a book that was never released. Here's my evidence towards this:

No mention on the author's page.
No news coverage.
No listings on WorldCat or Goodreads.
No photos of the book or its artwork are present on the internet.
The only info on the internet mirrors the content present in the Wikipedia article.

I've emailed the author, but I'm not sure if she'll get back to me. In the meantime I'd recommend not mentioning this in her article until we have some proof of publication. Part of me wonders if this was an early title for her book Spellfall, which released in 2001. Perhaps it was promoted in another book under this old name and the editor assumed that it was a separate work? Her books also tend to be popular enough to where information is easy to find in some form or fashion, as they were widely published. It just seems unlikely that a book released at the start of her popularity would have zero information about it other than what's in the Wikipedia article. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 16:39, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Can't pass GNG if can't even confirm its out there. Even so, might not be a hoax. When searching Wikipedia Library for sources GALE came up with a mini biography from The Writers Directory. 2018. p3026. that mentioned it. WikiVirusC^(talk) 17:41, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: OK, heard back from the author herself. She confirmed that she's never put out a book by this name, but that this was the working title for her book Spellfall, which released in 2000 through Chicken House. It was never published through HC, but the publisher did put out her Seven Fabulous Wonders series. This looks like it's probably a case of a devoted fan who heard the working title somehow and assumed it was another of her books. We could probably include it in the main article for Spellfall as a working title, I suppose. Thanks to the author for her speedy response! ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 18:06, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Okay so not a hoax, but a mistake that was never corrected. Would be nice if there was a RS for it, even a primary reference on website would of been enough for citation. Redirect probably not needed as isn't a likely search term, and also the Sorcerer Hunters anime's English version was called Spell Wars, which was what I thought this AfD might have been when I first saw it. WikiVirusC^(talk) 18:25, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How can we include it in Spellfall if we don't have an actual source? And considering how poorly sourced Spellfall is... PRAXIDICAE🌈 18:27, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete From the user who contested the speedy deletion. This book is most likely non-notable, if it exists. I agree that it is probably a mistake, but a non-notable one. It doesn't need its own stub article. 2601:647:5800:1A1F:81D5:6D64:11E:646B (talk) 23:35, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Even if this did exist, the lack of any obvious coverage of it shows a lack of notability, so I think that this is a pretty clear cut case. Dunarc (talk) 20:34, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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