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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. After two relists, commenters are divided over whether there is significant coverage to show notability. RL0919 (talk) 12:48, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
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Could not find valid in-depth coverage to establish notability for this TV series. The reference in the article is not independent and the iMDB page I could find is not a valid reliable source. The article has been speedy deleted two times before. Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 17:33, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 18:23, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
- Keep - I will note that this article was asked for at the African cinema wiki-project so at the very least, the subject seems notable enough that someone requested an article about it. Other than that I have to say that my vote is routine in that i always vote to keep the articles I originated, sort of like a political candidate's vote on election day. I want to thank Crystal for putting it up for AFD instead of just deleting it without a vote as happened with another wikiproject African cinema article I recently did, which was rudely deleted without a vote taking place first. Thank you Crystal for your decency! Antonio Africa Filoco Martin (que pasa?) 11:47, 15 October, 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you AntonioMartin for your nice words. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 11:29, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ghana-related deletion discussions. North America1000 10:24, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Antonio Africa Filoco Martin:
that someone requested an article about it [...]
Sadly that's not enough for notability. DAVRONOVA.A. ✉ ⚑ 11:22, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Antonio Africa Filoco Martin:
- Keep: I've provided some additional references. It is hard to find good sources for African entertainment, but this series does seem notable to me.Dsp13 (talk) 11:08, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
- Are there any additional sources with in-depth coverage? Ghana Web is the only source with in depth coverage. Multiple articles from the same publisher count as only one source towards meeting WP:GNG. Aljazeera includes only one sentence and pulse just a trivial mention. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 06:31, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
- It feels like the sources we do have online help establish its relative place in Ghanian television. I would hope we'd agree that major national television programs will be notable. So while we don't have sources online that help work towards GNG, it does feel like the kind of show that off-line sources would exist for. Hand waving towards sources existing and then not producing them is frustrating but so is our under-coverage of topics in certain countries so I wanted to at least advance the argument even if I can't provide sources. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:32, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- According to the sources is a web series that turned to video on demand on sparrowstation.com and run for less than a year, not a major national television program. Even regular TV series don't have inherent notability. Unless we can find some additional independent reliable sources with in-depth coverage to meet WP:GNG, our criteria for inclusion is not met for this article. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 09:14, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- That's helpful to know thanks. I came here as a possible closer and examined the discussion here and the article (and not sources for which I accepted your characterization) and found myself having the comment of how to balance the clear demands GNG makes for Verifiability with the idea that sometimes commonsense would tell us off-line sources exist. In this case I would agree that given the facts at play that absent GNG compliant sources being documented that we should be deleting. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:37, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- According to the sources is a web series that turned to video on demand on sparrowstation.com and run for less than a year, not a major national television program. Even regular TV series don't have inherent notability. Unless we can find some additional independent reliable sources with in-depth coverage to meet WP:GNG, our criteria for inclusion is not met for this article. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 09:14, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- It feels like the sources we do have online help establish its relative place in Ghanian television. I would hope we'd agree that major national television programs will be notable. So while we don't have sources online that help work towards GNG, it does feel like the kind of show that off-line sources would exist for. Hand waving towards sources existing and then not producing them is frustrating but so is our under-coverage of topics in certain countries so I wanted to at least advance the argument even if I can't provide sources. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:32, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- Are there any additional sources with in-depth coverage? Ghana Web is the only source with in depth coverage. Multiple articles from the same publisher count as only one source towards meeting WP:GNG. Aljazeera includes only one sentence and pulse just a trivial mention. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 06:31, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
- Weak Delete. Just fails WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. The award nominations could possibly be an argument for keep, but in the absence of significant coverage deletion is the best option.4meter4 (talk) 19:03, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 00:31, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 00:31, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 02:32, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 02:32, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
- Keep - Based on the Ghana Web coverage, this magazine review, and the award-nominations, it just gets over the line for notability per WP:GNG. FOARP (talk) 13:56, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
- Trivial coverage. the paragraph is focused on the actress and the series is just mentioned. The award-nominations were also to actress and not the series. Still no in-depth coverage by multiple sources to meet GNG. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 21:12, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
- Delete — The citation is included but I believe there is not enough of it for the a standalone article (it's also advised to provide secondary sources, checkout WP:GNG, WP:NRV). I suggest to move the content of it to a separate section in the Ghana film industry. DAVRONOVA.A. ✉ ⚑ 11:22, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
- Keep: Notable series from a VERY VERY notable film director, that also got notable accolades. HandsomeBoy (talk) 09:45, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.