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Category:Motorcyclists organizations

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: keep. xplicit 06:14, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Two names for the same thing. Rathfelder (talk) 18:50, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

oppose two different things as the contents of the categories and their parents clearly show Hmains (talk) 17:01, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Ukrainian women of World War II

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The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering 21:07, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Avoid duplicate categories and match existing parallel categories, for example Category:Women in World War II, Category:Norwegian women in World War II, Category:British women in World War II, etc. Catrìona (talk) 18:28, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:History of the American stock exchanges

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 18:11, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP practice prefers United States over the ambiguous "American." UnitedStatesian (talk) 12:12, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
support per nominator JarrahTree 12:21, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
support per nom Catrìona (talk) 18:31, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nominator,Shyamsunder (talk) 09:37, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Template documentation message boxes

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 18:12, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The proposed new title is more accurate in regards to its members. The name as it stands makes one think that the category contains all message-box templates placed primarily on template documentations, which would then include templates like {{Intricate template}} and {{High-use}}. A move would allow for categorizing message-boxes marking inadequate documentations as a subcat of a new category named "Template documentation message boxes" that would all contain message-box templates intended primarily to be placed on doc pages.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  19:54, 5 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 07:12, 13 July 2018 (UTC) [reply]

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Category:Afridi people

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 July 21#Category:Afridi people

Category:2. divisjon players

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The result of the discussion was: keep. xplicit 06:14, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Previously deleted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 February 1#Category:Norwegian 2. Divisjon players. Granted, the nomination rationale (by yours truly) wasn't the most well-written, but allow me to expand. The 2. divisjon is the third tier of Norwegian football. In the 1990s it consisted of 72 teams; less teams nowadays. The league is wholly non-professional save for a few select players, meaning that football is a part-time pastime besides education or dayjobs. Since playing in the league does not make a player notable, it is not a defining characteristic of any player. To rephrase, not any player with a Wikipedia page is remembered as "the 2. divisjon player A or B". Geschichte (talk) 21:26, 2 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Hhkohh (talk) 05:02, 3 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • And I've just added 4 more Odd players I've quickly found have also played in this division this season... GiantSnowman 09:06, 3 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • It shows nothing of the sort. It does mention Odds II but that redirects to Odds BK, which makes no mention of a reserve team. Anyway categories are to capture defining characteristics, which this is not, regardless of the views of WT:FOOTBALL. Nearly every footballer will have occasional games for the reserve team. Oculi (talk) 21:46, 4 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 06:50, 13 July 2018 (UTC) [reply]
procedural follow-up on relisting - settled
I stand corrected. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:09, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Deuterostomes and humans

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The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering 09:48, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary category layer. See previous CFDs e.g. in March. Note: These categories were created by the now-blocked R567/Caftaric. DexDor (talk) 06:05, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. and outcomes of previous discussions. UnitedStatesian (talk) 12:14, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Invertebrates of Niger

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The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering 09:50, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
similar categories
Note: Category:Arthropods of Sierra Leone should be placed under Category:Fauna of Sierra Leone
Nominator's rationale: That a species (e.g. Neritina rubricata or Lanistes ovum) is found in a particular country is non-defining. Note: Previous CFDs (example) have deleted categories for insects etc.  Note: Most/all of these categories were created by NotWith. DexDor (talk) 04:30, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Lepidoptera of Mali

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The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering 09:51, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This was inadvertently missed from an earlier CFD. DexDor (talk) 04:13, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Queer directors

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The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering 09:51, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: (or to LGBT film and television directors if the other proposal is successful) Not a needed split. JDDJS (talk) 03:53, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:LGBT directors

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. @Bearcat: I think Category:Media directors, despite the potential confusion with PR, could be workable as a direct or indirect subcategory of Category:Media people. -- Black Falcon (talk) 16:11, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: For clarification purposes JDDJS (talk) 03:51, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Mangoe @Marcocapelle The parent Category:Directors says it's for entertainment directors, but includes categories for all types of directors, including business directors. Clearly some clean up needs to be done to that category as well, but I feel that doesn't mean that we can't rename this category to something less ambiguous in the meantime. JDDJS (talk) 15:02, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. Mangoe (talk) 02:54, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I'm not sure what the right answer is here. Certainly "film and television" isn't the right answer here, as for instance this category should rightly also include theatre directors — but "arts and media" isn't the right road either, because an art director is a person in the magazine publishing industry and a media director is a PR agent, which are outside the intended scope. I do agree that we have to rethink this tree — what a "corporate director" does is so fundamentally different from what a television, film or theatre director does that even though we happen to use the same word for both jobs they still don't belong together in any shared category tree at all. So we need to find some better way of splitting them, because there's no basis for a category that would group them together. But I don't know what the right answer is. Bearcat (talk) 20:30, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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