Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Alpha Kappa Alpha sisters

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted 22:25, 17 December 2007.

List of Alpha Kappa Alpha sisters

Completed list of twenty founders, but someone is trying to delete them in order to make a point and to disrupt the encyclopedia. I have been working on this list for over two months or so, and just completed writing the last founder. Miranda 20:01, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comments:
- The section about the song is way too early in the article and way too short to warrant its own section.
  - I moved the poem down and the idea of this article is to list names, not a lot of prose.--Ccson (talk) 17:10, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - I agree with moving the poem, I think it should be a more national poem (i.e And God Said..) because every chapter uses it and it's on quite a bit of ParaphernaliaKnicksfan4ever (talk) 16:46, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Same with the section about presidents - that would be served best with an actual list, I think, rather than an out-of-place template.
  - there's a similar list in the APA brothers, and adding all these names to the article will just make the article more lenthy.--Ccson (talk) 17:10, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I'd like some of the blacklinks to be redlinks, especially in 'politics' - these folks are notable enough for articles, they simply haven't been written yet.
  - The redlinks were objected during the FA review for the APA brothers list, so I'm cocerned that if added, they will be objected here. The fact that there is no article doesn't mean the person is not notable or that they're not a member of AKA. Can you let this slide also since it seems POV.--Ccson (talk) 17:10, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    - I refuse to comment any further unless you can explain how my objection is "POV". --Golbez (talk) 21:24, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      - sorry for the confusion. Redlinks were objected when I used them on the APA brothers so I had to remove them. You're requesting redlinks in this article. I'm concerned that the contributor opposed to redlinks will object and not support. I thought both views/objections were POV because I wasn't aware of the presence or non-presence of redlinks was a wikipedia. I will defer to your knowledge of wikipedia and add the redlinks. thanks.--Ccson (talk) 18:45, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Finally, I'd like more information on "unknown" - why is this in quotes, is the reference saying that specifically?
  - It looks like the same style is used on the APA brothers page. That doesn't mean I like it, but I can let it slide.
- Otherwise, it looks well on its way. Please don't let the AFD get to you - if it truly is a point nom, then the community will probably see that and deal accordingly. --Golbez (talk) 20:08, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Done
Support: My concern was the second paragraph of the intro, but I have rewritten.--Ccson (talk) 17:13, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support - List is well done and all entries have references. Great job! -- Absolon S. Kent (talk) 16:06, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support: In particular, excellent job on the footnotes.-RoBoTam^ice 16:11, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support This list includes some very notable women who have made an impact on American Society, Culture and HistoryKnicksfan4ever (talk) 16:44, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support - This is one of the best looking lists I have seen....--Comet styles 19:18, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Could you go over the citations, please? There seems to be a couple of errors. Plus, why are you sorting the references column? I don't think it's useful.--Crzy cheetah 21:08, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A member recently added members without standardizing the template. We are doing that now. Miranda 21:55, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Refs column is default due to template. See List of Alpha Phi Alpha brothers. Miranda 22:51, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, do you mean to say that this list is not complete yet? Are you completing this list now? Sounds like this nomination is premature. As for the refs column, I still think that you should "unsort" it and preferably in the "brothers" list as well. I mean no one is going to sort that column, right? --Crzy cheetah 06:22, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, the list is completed with notable members (that I know of), but a member of the sorority is adding other members, which is good. New members get initiated all of the time. But the main parts are completed. ~~I will work on the reference sorting, that should be minor.~~ Sorry, but that's just part of the template syntax.Miranda 12:39, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Support All right, the list looks great. I made the refs column unsortable.--Crzy cheetah 19:38, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I think the list looks great the way it is, however, I think the article does not have to look identical to the List of Alpha Phi Alpha brothers. It should have it's on twist, identity, etc., let me think of some ideas. IMHO, this list can stand alone and is worthy of being featured in it's own right. Unlike Zeta Phi Beta Sigma, the two organizations beyond early influence are not directly connected, except by obvious strong support and mutual respect for one anotherKnicksfan4ever (talk) 15:07, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You've missed the point. this has nothing to do with Alphas and AKAs, Omega and Delta, Sigma and Zetas being siblings, or that Kappa has no sisters because they love all. Both Alpha and AKA articles are "coincidentally" using the same wikipedia template (Template:FratMember) and that caused a sorting issue, in fact, the List of Alpha brothers probably had the same problem, but now that Crzycheetah has fixed the template that both employ, both Alpha and AKA no longer sort the list based on the reference field. Any other group using the template to create a list will sort the same whether they love, dispise or respect other greek groups. Thanks for your support above.--Ccson (talk) 17:22, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Got it now, didn't realize there was a template, so it's all good. I hope it gets featuredKnicksfan 4ever 18:16, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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