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September 22
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The result of the discussion was: relisted Deryck C. 08:59, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
- File:Tower of the Sun - 太陽の塔.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Laitr Keiows (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Experts on Japanese copyright law have opined that this is considered an artistic work for the purposes of Japanese law and thus ineligible for Japanese FOP. However, US FOP establishes the distinction between buildings and artwork as follows: "The term building means structures that are habitable by humans and intended to be both permanent and stationary, such as houses and office buildings, and other permanent and stationary structures designed for human occupancy, including but not limited to churches, museums, gazebos, and garden pavilions." So if it qualifies as a building under US law, then {{FoP-USonly}} applies. What we need to figure out here is: Are there any overriding provisions in US law that would nonetheless make this an artwork? Because intuitively it looks awfully like a sculpture, and it's only a building on account of its habitability, but I don't see anything in US law that says otherwise. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:02, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
- To my understanding, while a building is covered by FoP, artistic bits on it can be copyrighted. Kind of like a mural or painting in a building is not covered by the building's FoP. This photo may be considered an artwork thus. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 18:06, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
- That's a good question, though this is the whole building so it's kind of a different case (you can hardly call a sculpture in front of a building "a building"); there are buildings in the US and other building-only FOP countries which are quite artistic like Walt Disney Concert Hall but are uncontroversially accepted. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 02:57, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
- Here's what is written on the park-sponsored label. I quote: "The tower of the sun encapsulates the exhibition hall."
- Here's what inside of it. If you think this is enough to qualify for US FOP, then just go ahead. Laitr Keiows (talk) 02:55, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 19:11, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
- File:Veterans Affairs Commission seal.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Taiwantaffy (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
It's replaced by File:ROC Veterans Affairs Council Emblem.svg. Akira123 (talk) 04:34, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 19:11, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
- File:Dhaka Commerce College strong foundation.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mohammad Tanvir Hossain (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Potential copyvio: clearly a derivative work (see EXIF data) but no source info provided for original. Uploader is untrustworthy. BethNaught (talk) 07:32, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 19:11, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
- File:Dhaka Commerce College construction work.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mohammad Tanvir Hossain (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Per previous file. BethNaught (talk) 07:33, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
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- File:Dhaka Commerce College2.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mohammad Tanvir Hossain (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Per previous file. BethNaught (talk) 07:33, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
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- File:Dhaka Commerce College3.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mohammad Tanvir Hossain (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Per previous file. BethNaught (talk) 07:34, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 19:11, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
- File:VIP Platinum Lounge.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Tamsyn Lee (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:VIP Platinum Cinema and Lounge.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Tamsyn Lee (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:VIP Platinum Cinema.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Tamsyn Lee (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Fiesta Plaza.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Tamsyn Lee (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Carousel Park.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Tamsyn Lee (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:VIP Platinum Cinema and Lounge.pdf (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Tamsyn Lee (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:MovieTowne front entrance.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Tamsyn Lee (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:MovieTowne Mall.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Tamsyn Lee (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:MovieTowne's Logo.pdf (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Tamsyn Lee (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Bogus public domain reason, hence no license provided. BethNaught (talk) 15:48, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 19:13, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
- File:Fastpass Logo Updated.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Elisfkc (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Unused and inferior to the vector version available on Commons. Carniolus (talk) 17:10, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
- Support as uploader JPG version has been replaced in all instances by the vector one. Elisfkc (talk) 19:00, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: relisted. Deryck C. 08:58, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
- File:Alan kurdi smiling playground.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by George Ho (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Let me preface this with the following might seem cold in lieu of the circumstances. However, this image is not really needed. The main image, also under fair use, is the most important one. The one showing the child dead. The photo of the child while he was still alive does not add any additional encyclopedic value to the article in my opinion. Therefore, it is unnecessary failing our strict non-free use policy. Specifically, WP:NFCCP #3a (minimum number of items to convey the same information) and #8 (its absence will not be detrimental to the understanding of the article). Majora (talk) 21:23, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
- Keep - Shows face of the late Alan Kurdi in a neutral context. --Jax 0677 (talk) 21:54, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
- The entire article is about his death, not his life. Don't really know why you need a smiling picture unless you think that somehow offsets the picture of his body. It really doesn't. Fair use is all about the absolute minimum number of copyrighted images that can convey the same information. Not about neutrality. Fair use photos in the name of neutrality need to have some context to them in order to fit with our fair use policy. This one doesn't seem to do that. --Majora (talk) 21:59, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
- Neutral, leaning toward support - I am torn. I added this image to show the kid's bright, optimistic life as other articles have done on events involving a sole person. Kurdi's death is unfortunate, and the infobox (corpse) image illustrates this. I previewed removing the image in the article, and I have two possibilities. On one hand, even with the image removed, readers would still understand the whole article about the kid's death despite short biography. On the other hand, the removal would obstruct readers from understanding how the kid's death tragically ended his bright, optimistic life, though WP:NOTMEMORIAL should apply in case of low-profile or non-notable people. George Ho (talk) 01:50, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
- Keep I agree with what is written by George Ho. The death of that child is a tragedy. Not for how he died, but because he had no reason to die. This is not about a public figure murdered for his political stance, or about a personalities killed by organized crime because they are put in contrast to it. It's about a child who would live a bright, optimistic life, and instead he died because it had to flee from something that was beyond his comprehension or possibility of intervention. That picture, along with that on the beach helps to understand this. Yaniv 01 (talk) 12:01, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
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