Wikipedia talk:Vector 2022

This talk page is specifically for questions surrounding the deployment of Vector 2022 on English Wikipedia.

For general questions and feedback about the project, features, go to the project talk page on MediaWiki.org:

mw:Talk:Reading/Web/Desktop Improvements

Please stay calm and civil while commenting or presenting evidence, and do not make personal attacks. Be patient when approaching solutions to any issues. If consensus is not reached, other solutions exist to draw attention and ensure that more editors mediate or comment on the dispute.

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Frequently asked questions

Q1: Why isn't there a way for logged-out users to switch to the old look?

A1: Logged-in users have the ability to switch their skin by visiting their Preferences page. This setting isn't available to logged-out users because to reduce server load, Wikipedia handles logged-out traffic using "snapshots" of our articles, hosted on several caching servers. Allowing logged-out users to use Preferences would require generating two versions of snapshots for each page, which would overload Wikipedia servers and potentially cause cache fragmentation. Forcing Preferences to load after the page would also lengthen the loading time and bring about glitches. However, a persistent (un)fixed-width toggle was added for logged out users as it only required a short cookie and did not require caching.

Q2: How do I restore the previous line width?

A2: Click the "fullscreen" button

that appears on the bottom right corner of the page.

Q3: Was there prior discussion on changing the appearance?

A3: There was, see this Requests for comment (RfC) discussion. The RfC was closed by two editors who concluded that there was consensus to roll out the new skin without the need for a follow-up discussion, so long as the most pressing concerns expressed by editors in the RfC were addressed.

Q4: Can the old skin be restored as the default?

A4: An RfC discussion recently took place at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Rollback of Vector 2022, in which editors did not reach a consensus. However, there was rough consensus to make unlimited width the default and to start another RfC around October 2023.

Q5: Where can I report a bug or an issue that needs fixing?

A5: Please report bugs and feature requests at phabricator.wikimedia.org.

Q6: What if I have more questions?

A6: A more comprehensive list of FAQs can be found at mw:Reading/Web/Desktop Improvements/Frequently asked questions.

This skin has been mentioned by multiple media organizations:

Michael Kan (January 18, 2023). "Wikipedia Desktop Site Gets New Look, Its First in Over 10 Years". PCMag.
Kyle Barr (January 18, 2023). "Try and Spot the Differences in Wikipedia's First New Look in 11 Years". Gizmodo.

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Archiving discussion from MWT:vector-language-redirect-to-top

...as it will be deleted once that MediaWiki string is removed. – SJ + 04:41, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

discussion to remove vector-language-redirect-to-top

RfC: Remove this sidebar section

Proposal : Remove the "Languages" section and this message from the main menu in Vector 2022. (Ticket: T353619)

Now that the language selector has been moved to the top of the page in Vector 22, the legacy "Languages" section in the main menu is no longer needed. It takes up space and attention, a few months should be long enough to make the point. – SJ + 19:04, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support although this RfC will disappear from the archives if this page gets deleted as a result, so it should be stored somewhere else. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 16:37, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good point! Seems uncontroversial enough it doesn't need much discussion. But we should preserve this page... perhaps as a section under Wikipedia talk:Vector 2022? The ticket suggests it's been removed in the next update to mediawiki. – SJ + 04:38, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User script Vectron

Watchers of this page might be interested in new user script – User:Andrybak/Vectron, which automatically toggles between wide and narrow Vector 2022, depending on the type of the page. Narrow: only the regular "wiki pages" for reading (including talk pages). Wide: editor, diffs, history, special pages (e.g. watchlist), JavaScript, Lua modules, everything else. The script is rough around the edges (the pages "jump" into correct state in front of your eyes). Feedback and suggestions are welcome at the talk page. —⁠andrybak (talk) 00:00, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Accessibility for reading – Appearance menu

It would seem that Accessibility for reading has been rolled out to English Wikipedia – I now see the "Appearance" menu pinned in the right sidebar. Section How to expand the width of the new skin about the toggle button needs to be updated, because the toggle button is now gone. —⁠andrybak (talk) 14:57, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Andrybak: I updated the FAQ. Feel free to adjust this. SCP-2000 03:38, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]