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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by BorgQueen (talk01:07, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • ... that 2022's Saint Omer, based on the murder trial of Fabienne Kabou, was the first feature film for director Alice Diop and actress Kayije Kagame, and only the second for actress Guslagie Malanda? Source: Kabou and Diop: "[Diop's] experiences sitting in that courtroom [of the Kabou trial] have morphed into 'Saint Omer', the documentarian's first venture into narrative features" NYT ("narrative feature film" is redundant and just meant to distinguish from her extensive documentary work). Kagame: "Kagame’s big-screen debut was a sensation" THR ("big-screen" is meant to distinguish from her short film projects). Malanda: "she had appeared in just one movie" THR (simple math!)
    • ALT1: ... that in 2022's Saint Omer, Guslagie Malanda plays a character based on convicted murderer Fabienne Kabou, while Kayije Kagame plays a stand-in for director Alice Diop? Source: "The film’s two main characters, and their real-life cognates, are Black women. Like Rama, Diop was born in France to a Senegalese family; like Laurence, Kabou was born and raised in Senegal and came to France to attend university" TNY. Malanda/Kabou: "Malanda plays Laurence Coly, an immigrant from Senegal who killed her 1-year-old daughter by leaving her overnight on a beach. Far from a stereotype, Laurence is based on a real woman, Fabienne Kabou" Cut. Kagame/Diop: "Rama is not autobiographical, Diop said, a point reiterated by Kagame, the actress who portrays her. 'Alice always had this cautionary warning before everything, saying, "Rama is not me"', Kagame said through an interpreter during a video call. Equally, Kagame added, 'Of course, I think any artist is always putting so much of themselves in their creation. Rama is her and yet it is not her so that we can all project ourselves in Rama'. Indeed, Diop said that Rama’s gaze did allow her to 'process lots of very deep personal things'" NYT Many sources not currently cited for redundancy's sake (like O) say "stand-in" or similar unqualified.
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sanaullah Bhat, Template:Did you know nominations/2012–2014 Salvadoran gang truce, Template:Did you know nominations/Foreign trade of medieval Novgorod, Template:Did you know nominations/Comparative hearing
    • Comment: My first multihook of this size

Created (Guslagie Malanda, Kayije Kagame, Fabienne Kabou) or 5x expanded (Alice Diop) by Hameltion (talk). Self-nominated at 00:54, 2 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Guslagie Malanda; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:23, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:23, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:23, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:23, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Seems to be mostly quotations
  • Got a little redlink happy - removed one, but the rest are plausible (many already exist in other langs)
The nomination passes all essential elements for all articles. I mentioned some minor issues above. I am imparitial between the hooks, but think it might be better to use the shorter one (ALT1).-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:34, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]