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Q: There are many "rules" associated with this page. Why?

A: Recent deaths is one of the most-viewed articles in Wikipedia. Deaths in 2023 was one of the most-read Wikipedia articles in 2023, with over 48 million views.[1] It is important that such a high-profile article have factual information presented in a consistent format.

Q: Why are there redlinks or redirects (deceased subject with no Wikipedia article) listed in the article?

A: Many notable people die before a Wikipedia article is written about them. The regular editors of this page have agreed that a death notice without an English-language article may remain for one month after the death, so that an article may develop. If there is no article after one month, then the death notice is removed from the list.

Q: Why is each death sourced by a simple citation only?

A: Each month, over 1000 deaths are reported. If the "cite news" template were used in each entry, the page would be slower to load as each instance of the template is rendered. Editors have decided by consensus to use a simpler cite in the form <ref>[url, title]</ref>.

Q: Why are dead animals sometimes listed in the article?

A: Many animals (like Lonesome George) achieve notability similar to humans during their life. This article reports the death of any notable biological life with its own article, not just humans.

Q: I saw on social media that a notable person has just died. May I add this death to the list?

A: Material about living persons (or recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced is removed immediately and without waiting for discussion (WP:BLP). Blogs and social media sites are generally considered to be unreliable. Every death listed must be supported by a reference from a reliable, independent source.

Q: A new month started five days ago. Why are deaths in the old month still appearing here?

A: It takes some time for deaths to be reported in the media and published here. Editors have agreed to keep the old month listed in the article for seven days after the new month begins. After that time, the "old" deaths are transferred to the article Deaths in <old month name>.

Q: Why is there sometimes a date without entries at the top of the page?

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This article has been viewed enough times in a single week to appear in the Top 25 Report 31 times. The weeks in which this happened:

December 31, 2023 to January 6, 2024 (11th)
January 7 to 13, 2024 (9th)
January 14 to 20, 2024 (5th)
January 21 to 27, 2024 (10th)
January 28 to February 3, 2024 (9th)
February 4 to 10, 2024 (7th)
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Deaths needing proper citation

Via thorough browsing of the 2024 deaths category, I’ve found the following are marked as deceased and needing of proper citation. Rusted AutoParts 13:19, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

February 6, 2023 - Jim Price, 78, American musician, producer and composer (forums and social media only so far)
January 2 - Larry Sherrer, 74, American football player (Montreal Alouettes, BC Lions) and ophthalmologist
January 22 - János Toldi, 96, Hungarian Olympic sprint canoer
January 25 - Rick France, 85, British speedway rider. (Death sourced on his page by Facebook)
March - Tommy Duncan, 87, Scottish footballer (Death sourced on his page by Twitter)
April - Danny O'Donnell, 85, Scottish footballer (Brentford, Brechin City, Tonbridge)
April 7 - John Giles, 97, British Olympic shot putter
April 14 - Blackie Wangerin, 89, American racecar driver
June 1 – Salvador Miranda, 84, American bibliographer, librarian and church historian
June 2 – Israel Even-Zahav, 77, Israeli Paralympic athlete
June 7 - Dolores Cambridge, 87, Australian opera soprano (death sourced on her page by Vimeo video link of funeral)
June 27 – Shaun Casey, 70, American model
July 1 – Michael Sinelnikoff, 95, British-born Canadian actor
July 24 - Len Haley, 92, Canadian ice hockey player (Detroit Red Wings)
August 6 - James Bjorken, 90, American physicist (Bjorken scaling)
August 11 - Roy Blackbeard, 71, Botswanan diplomat (death sourced through Facebook)

Jim Price: Dead or Alive?

Looking over this list, should Jim Price be on it at all, as even his article doesn't indicate he's dead? A brief search doesn't turn up anything to confirm that he is either 2A02:8012:227B:0:18DE:830D:C096:71A (talk) 13:03, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The person who added his name here indicated his death was stated via forums and social media. In my opinion it's okay to leave him here given that. Unless something comes up in those areas saying the announcement was wrong or something. That's the purpose of this thread, to catalogue deaths needing a strong source that have been at the least verifiably deemed deceased in the means we can't utilize. Rusted AutoParts 17:38, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello all. Jim Price is supposed to have died in Pasadena in February 2023. We have a James William Price born in July 1945 living in Pasadena on TruePeopleSearch. If he died more than one year ago I think he wouldn't be on TruePeopleSearch anymore. What did you think? --Danielvis08 (talk) 22:31, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Frankly, I would not know whether TruePeopleSearch is deemed to be a reliable source. What I do know is that it seemingly is not available to view by Europeans. I suspect that 'James William Price' is hardly a unique name, so we can not be certain if it is he. There were 'death notices' posted on social media and web forums (all not reliable) around the time of his demise. They may have all been bogus, and that is why I did not edit his article nor post his 'death' here. It seems to me that he had a sizeable contribution to rock/pop music in the 1970s, so it seems logical that his death would have attracted media attention, but these days mainstream media seem to focus elsewhere. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 23:32, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just to add a belated PS. here. If editors would care to take a look at the Jim Price article's editing history, you will see a few unsourced efforts, largely by IPs, trying to insert 'death details'. If this was purely vandalism, I would proffer that choosing a 78 year old to 'kill off', would gain considerably less kudos than reckoning Justin Beiber, Lady Gaga, or whoever is the latest pop sensation, had suddenly popped their clogs. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:21, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have hundreds of unlisted deaths on my profile page. I can't find time to add them all, so please have a look if you want to get your numbers up.Nukualofa (talk) 11:59, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IMDB

Didn't wanna unilaterally revert if there'd be a consensus forged somewhere I didn't see, but is @Dimadick:'s inclusion of IMDB as an external link copacetic? Just seen it added to so many of the previous Deaths pages. Rusted AutoParts 02:24, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is a convenient way to locate names in chronological order of death. I have been using it for years. Dimadick (talk) 02:26, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I get that, I have some saved pages with similar lists to check for any potential missed names needing listing/sourcing. It’s just you’re making a lot of additions to over three years worth of pages, and I’m not sure if that’s a choice others necessarily support. Rusted AutoParts 03:35, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IMDB may be used as an external link, but not as a reliable source. See WP:IMDB. I was also inclined to revert, then noticed that it is OK as an EL. WWGB (talk) 04:32, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of suicidal methods?

For notable individuals who died by suicide, should we remove the methods used from the list? 73.208.44.57 (talk) 14:47, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why? You do not say. Ref ^(chew)(do) 15:02, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am not saying I decide whether or not the method, if known, is listed. I am worried about a potential edit war with Bryan Krippner over this. See this revision. --73.208.44.57 (talk) 21:35, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We are not generally worried about an edit war with anyone here. If the method of suicide is reliably sourced, it will always get included in an entry here. Other years are for others to work out amicably and civilly. Ref ^(chew)(do) 21:45, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why "Professional wrestling" is different

Some hours ago Refsworldlee deleted the designation of a professional wrestling performer as such and asked in the edit summary why the "professional" should be included. There has never been an issue in denoting the practitioners of rugby union or rugby league or Australian rules football and I don't think there should be one for freestyle wrestling or Greco-Roman wrestling even though the latter are both honestly competed sports as opposed to the theatrical presentations known as "Professional wrestling"...even the rules for competitors at the Sumo World Championships are different from those observed by sekitori. To treat the "kayfabe" show performers as a subset of legitimate athletes is misleading and should be avoided. 71.105.190.227 (talk) 07:25, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So there's the question presented formally - it just needs for interested editors to add their thoughts. If "professional wrestling" is indeed considered a dedicated named version of wrestling, it may need to be included. Ref ^(chew)(do) 07:34, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Professional wrestling is not a sport competition, it is scripted entertainment. I support its inclusion to differentiate it from true competitive wrestling. WWGB (talk) 07:39, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's a fair assessment. Not a fan of it either. Case proven. Ref ^(chew)(do) 14:19, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently, it is a documented term and has a wiki about it (albeit one full of OR). But for balance and clarity, I usually add what type if competitive, similar to weight classes for boxers. Wylie pedia @ 11:30, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tom Pritchard

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-06/rat-of-tobruk-tom-pritchard-dies-aged-102/104187282 46.56.198.251 (talk) 07:56, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I presume from your abrupt post that you want Tom Pritchard added to Deaths in 2024. As he does not have a WP article, I will not be adding him. Another editor might. WWGB (talk) 08:10, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Normally we would go ahead and see what happens until one month is up as a redlink. But the source reveals very little of any notability save being a member of the so-called Tobruk Rats and living until 102. The first carries a slim notability given how many there were (14,000, and no others have ever been included here to my knowledge), the second (being able to dodge the Grim Reaper for as long as you can) is not a notability. This is not meant to sound disrespectful or mean, it's just me giving you a reason why I too won't be adding him. Thanks, may he rest in peace. Ref ^(chew)(do) 13:49, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rachael Lilis

Voice actress Rachael Lillis passed away from cancer on August 10. Fellow voice actress Veronica Taylor just reported it through Instagram (I cannot provide a link for some reason). 2001:8003:AC71:B800:19F4:A080:3601:27A2 (talk) 14:46, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done by DecaTilde. Wylie pedia @ 15:06, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the mention. ;) Deca Tilde 15:17, 12 August 2024 (UTC) Deca Tilde 15:17, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]