Talk:Dead End

On 15 November 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Dead End (disambiguation). The result of the discussion was Moved first to Dead end street, second not moved..

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: pages moved -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:37, 4 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dead End (disambiguation) → Dead End
Dead End → Dead End (1937 film)

– Granted, the film is a best-picture nominee, but I think the phrase is common enough as a title that it's a bad idea to consider it the primary topic. I can be convinced otherwise, however. Powers ^T 00:29, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. The film certainly isn't primary with respect to usage. Cul-de-sac got 125,000 page views in the last 90 days, the film got 11,000. Kauffner (talk) 02:53, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I appreciate the data, but we have no way of knowing how many people got to cul-de-sac by searching for "dead end". Powers ^T 14:11, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - There are ways to figure that one out. But I noticed another issue: Dead end already redirects to Cul-de-sac. So there is no conflict. So...neeever mind. Kauffner (talk) 13:00, 29 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom's and others' data. Dicklyon (talk) 04:33, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. 70.49.124.225 (talk) 05:44, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 10:40, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Traffic for Dead End does not satisfy criteria of more than all other combined -- even without considering that some portion of the base page traffic is intended for other senses. I'd also suggest that dead end should redirect to the disambiguation rather than cul-de-sac. Many of the incoming links for that intend a metaphorical usage which would better serve reader by directing them to a disambiguation page where a link to wiktionary is available. older ≠ wiser 03:02, 29 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Any such links should be removed, or linked directly to wiktionary if deemed suitable (which is rare). Powers ^T 18:54, 30 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Right, but their existence is an indication of ambiguity for the lower case term. I don't see very strong indications that cul-de-sac is the primary topic for the lower case spelling. older ≠ wiser 00:18, 1 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - I don't believe ambiguity involving non-articles should have an impact on primary topic determination. Only ambiguity within the scope of actual (or even potential) encyclopedia articles should count. Powers ^T 17:09, 1 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      - It seems decidedly unhelpful to dismiss common uses for which which editors demonstrably create links. The intended use in such cases is often wiktionary, but placing cul-de-sac as the primary topic makes it nearly impossible to systematically detect and correct such errors. older ≠ wiser 00:08, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        Anytime we have a primary topic, it makes it hard to detect and correct such errors. I don't see that as a good reason to avoid naming a primary topic. Powers ^T 17:18, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        In this case it is not entirely obvious (to me at least) that cul-de-sac is the primary topic. There are some common words where a dictionary definition is as likely to be what readers are looking for. older ≠ wiser 00:10, 4 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. JDDJS (talk) 17:14, 29 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Target for dead end redirect

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Dead end. Since you had some involvement with the dead end redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Powers ^T 15:50, 4 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Dead end (street) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 05:31, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]