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Debut date

Dragon Lee (Mistico II) made his debut in 2007. In 2011 he only debuted for CMLL. Before that he wrestled on Mexican indy circuit. I know about lucha libre, believe me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.131.32.142 (talk) 15:08, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You need a source to back it up. I'm afraid your word isn't good enough.TheFBH (talk) 15:10, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Here's my source: http://wrestlingdata.com/index.php?befehl=bios&wrestler=18808&bild=1&details=7. Also, check Luchawiki.org, if you don't believe me. I don't edit Wikipedia,if I don't know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.131.32.142 (talk) 15:15, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wrestlingdata is not a reliable source, Luchawiki is even less reliable since anyone can edit it. Wrestlingdata is full of instances, where two different wrestlers are linked to the same profile due to the fact that they at some time used the same ring name. For example: Wrestlingdata claims that Rush was trained by Anthony Durante and Gary Wolfe (http://wrestlingdata.com/index.php?befehl=bios&wrestler=14093), also known as The Pitbulls, when in fact he was trained by his uncles, who also worked as the Pitbulls. According to the site, Durante apparently came back from the grave to train Rush... It's quite possible that those matches are from some other guy using the same ring name especially considering that he would have been fifteen years old in 2007.TheFBH (talk) 16:42, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Anyway, why to write BS? It is not his debut date. If it is unknown, then why write false info? Just leave it blank, until you find out a real factual info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.15.178.51 (talk) 13:34, 2 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please provide some proof that the current date is wrong.TheFBH (talk) 17:43, 2 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Místico II/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Ceranthor (talk · contribs) 17:17, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Will review this (for the WikiCup). ceranthor 17:17, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hoping to get this in the next day or so. ceranthor 13:21, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Prose

Lead

"Carlos Muñoz, better known as Místico, is a Mexican second-generation" - "second-generation" meaning what here?

That his father was also a professional wrestler. MPJ-DK (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"(a "Face", someone who portrays the good guys in wrestling)" - perhaps written in an informal tone; also I think it's best to avoid idioms like "good guys"

Better?? MPJ-DK (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"He is a former two times" - should be two-time

Fixed MPJ-DK (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

" His older brother" - seems like you mean Mistico, but you should clarify that you mean Mistico's brother and not his father's brother

Fixed MPJ-DK (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"He has also wrestled both in Japan and Europe through CMLL's partnerships with other promotions as well as on the Mexican independent circuit." - with other promotions... such as? Don't need "also" *and* "both" - that's redundant

Fixed MPJ-DK (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Professional wrestling career

"uncles Franco Columbo, Pit bull I, and Pit bull II" - both Pit bulls are his uncles?

Yes MPJ-DK (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Lee wrestled mainly in six-man tag team matches with and against his stablemates,[9][10]" - stablemates? Don't know what that means

Other people of the stable (group) that he was a member of. MPJ-DK (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"before being put in his first major program the following April," - too passive. What about "entering" instead? And then tweaking the rest of the sentence to reflect that

Fixed I think MPJ-DK (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"who went on to win the tournament.[16][17]" - why not just say "who won the tournament" and cut out "went on"

Fixed MPJ-DK (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"qualified for the 2017 Universal Championship tournament.In the first round " - missing a space :)

Fixed MPJ-DK (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

" Místico was paired up with Negro Casas" - I think just "paired" is fine, no need for the "up"

Fixed MPJ-DK (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Personal life

"His younger brother made his debut in November 2013 as the second Dragon Lee.[93][94] " - which "His" are you referring to here?

Fixed MPJ-DK (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Pit Bull I and Pit Bull II," - earlier you didn't capitalize these; be consistent throughout the article

Fixed MPJ-DK (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

Refs should generally occur in increasing order, ie. [1][2][3] rather than [1][3][2]

Fixed MPJ-DK (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ref 2's title translation has a typo: ""Fantastica Mania" participants annonced!"

Fixed MPJ-DK (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What makes Wrestleview a reliable source?

Wikipedia:WikiProject Professional wrestling/Sources#Industry specific - Lists it as reliable. MPJ-DK (talk) 22:32, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ref 18's title translation also has a typo: "Quick results from Arena Mexico: "In Search of an Idol" is a new relality show from CMLL and Cadena 3]. "

Fixed MPJ-DK (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ref 21's translation has a space typo: "Mistico with the soul of the Dragon... The amazons of the ring in thecage]."

Fixed MPJ-DK (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ref 29's translation has a typo: "[Successful return f Místico in Arena Mexico]."

Fixed MPJ-DK (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ref 44 has a typo: " [Místico and Avernp for the National Welterweight Championship"

Fixed MPJ-DK (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ref 77: "Results from the Finals of the incredible pairs tournament: Místico and Mephisto defeats paradise" - shouldn't it be "defeat" not "defeats"?

Fixed MPJ-DK (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What makes Ovaciones a reliable source?

A daily Mexican newspaper with an editorial staff etc. MPJ-DK (talk) 22:32, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What makes CageMatch a reliable source?

Wikipedia:WikiProject Professional wrestling/Sources#Industry specific - Lists it as reliable as long as ""Strictly used for match results and not other information." which is what it is used for here MPJ-DK (talk) 22:32, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What makes The Internet Wrestling Database a reliable source?

Wikipedia:WikiProject Professional wrestling/Sources#Limited reliable sources with the note "Use with caution, mainly for uncontroversial claims", here it is an online source that reflects what the print source is saying. MPJ-DK (talk) 22:32, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Earwig's tool checks out.

Images

File:CMLL November 30 Mistico posing.jpg - checks out
File:Mistico-2013.jpg - seems to check out
File:Místico II 2017.jpg - checks out
File:Carisico and Mistico.jpg - checks out; pushing the title for the other promotions section

Looks okay to me, what browser are you using? It will not be a problem as soon as this section gets longer with future accomplishments. MPJ-DK (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

File:CMLL November 30 Mistico dive on Euforia.jpg - checks out; however, formatting-wise it looks like it's encroaching into the next section

It does brige the next section, not sure if its better to use a "clear" template with a text gap or leave it as is. MPJ-DK (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

File:Mistico-Volador-Sombra.jpg - seems to check out

Thanks for your patience. ceranthor 13:07, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your review, I will provide answers for reliability in a moment. MPJ-DK (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@MPJ-DK: Sorry yet again for the delay. Reading thru today and hoping to pass this by the end of the day. Will post any more pressing comments if I see anything that needs fixing. ceranthor 12:43, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in Dralístico

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Dralístico's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "VIIYouTube":

From The Crash Tag Team Championship: +LuchaTV (November 3, 2018). "The Crash VII Aniversario". Mas Luchas (in Spanish). YouTube. Retrieved November 4, 2018.
From Pentagón Jr.: +LuchaTV (November 3, 2018). "The Crash VII Aniversario". Mas Luchas (in Spanish). YouTube. Retrieved November 4, 2018.
From La Rebelión Amarilla: +LuchaTV (November 3, 2018). "The Crash VII Aniversario". Mas Luchas (in Spanish). YouTube. Retrieved November 4, 2018.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:21, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]