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[edit]Dear Coyatoc, I was examining your page on Latin American Airports. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_busiest_airports_in_Latin_America I am conducting research on the development of Latin American airports overtime in relation to economic growth, and I am curious as to where you retrieved your data. I am familiar with www.azworldairports.com but your data is much more current. It would be very much appreciated if you could help me with my search. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2620:0:5080:232:9137:14E7:E03F:E77A (talk) 18:59, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
Hi, I have added sources for the Top 15 in 2015. Hope they are of help! Coyatoc (talk) 21:42, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
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[edit]Hi, I want to say thank you for all your work on the lists of municipalities. I started this project, and created the template you are using (thank you for keeping it!) but because I couldn't read Spanish to get the dates absolutely correct I stopped and did other country municipality lists. I managed to get 9 states promoted to featured list, but your work means many others can too. Do you have intentions to put them up for featured list status? We could nominate them as joint nominees or if you wanted to go solo I will still help, whatever you prefer. Mattximus (talk) 13:57, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- My pleasure, I had planned to update them using the 2020 Census info but it was easy enough to add all missing data using the template. Doing Veracruz, Puebla and specially Oaxaca is going to be fun! Please feel free to promote any completed page to featured list as our joint effort. If there's other pages I can help with, let me know. Cheers. Coyatoc (talk) 11:00, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- It is a very slow process and can only be done one at a time, but I will nominate one with both of us as co-nominators. I will try to clean up the page with references before nominating, it's just the dates of incorporations that I was unsure of. Thanks! Here is our first nomination: Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Municipalities of Jalisco/archive1. Mattximus (talk) 15:32, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
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[edit]Hello. I noticed the Spanish site gives different dates for 4 of the municipalities (1941). I can't read the Spanish source so I can't tell which one is accurate, the English one or the Spanish one found here: [1]. Any thoughts?
- Hi! The INEGI source would contain the official data as far as I'm aware. I cannot access the source for the Spanish page, [2], it redirects to a map of the municipalities in Queretaro's government website. It was last consulted in 2012 and I doubt the map would contain info about incorporation dates... let me try to find a cached page in Google to double check.
- Right, found another reference in the opening paragraphs, [3]. It doesn't state that seven municipalities were created in 1941, but that the actual areas and names were established that year. For example, Amealco was first incorporated as a district on August 12, 1825, (page 53, [4]) but it was registered as what is known now as a "municipio" in 1941. I would recommend to stick to the dates under "Creación de los municipios" in each of the INEGI PDFs, to keep consistency. Coyatoc (talk) 23:04, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
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[edit]Hello, not sure if you are still using wikipedia but I've nominated this page for featured list here: Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Municipalities of Oaxaca/archive1. There are a few questions that could use your expertise! Thanks for your help a while back in building these pages! Mattximus (talk) 16:09, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Mattximus! Happy New Year, haven't been involved much recently in Wikipedia but still keep an eye. Thanks for nominating this page, it took several days to compile all the info due to the sheer amount of municipios. I'll check the queries in the next days. All the best. Coyatoc (talk) 16:17, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
- Hello, I didn't know you were still active, but would you like me to add your name to the nomination? You did quite a bit of work on the page! Mattximus (talk) 16:39, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
Municipalities of Tlaxcala
[edit]Coyatoc, first of all, thank you so much for all your tireless contributions on Mexican municipalities. I think there may be a little problem at Municipalities of Tlaxcala (the information for Zacatelco seems to have been entered twice - at Zacatelco and also at Zitlaltepec, a much smaller municipality). Do you still have the relevant data for Zitlaltepec ? PhainetaiMoi (talk) 19:22, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
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[edit]Hi! Many thanks for contributing to updating the population of some of the districts / suburbs of Dublin. However, I'm not sure how familiar you are with the city, Ireland's administrative and statistical divisions, and the nature of these areas - so please be aware that sometimes you are probably getting it just right, and sometimes not, as the areas used to enumerate the Irish census are *not* necessarily matched to actual districts, so sometimes you can't use just the names of "electoral divisions" but need to check on the CSO maps. I have corrected one population figure, and will keep an eye out for any others. Again, thanks for the willingness to help keep us current, SeoR (talk) 12:53, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi! Thanks for the note, I was aware about the labelling vs. map differences but didn't think they would be significant, apologies! Where can I find the CSO maps so I can cross-check the details? Coyatoc (talk) 13:01, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for coming back so quickly. The maps are in the same search tool as the filtered data "slices" you are using, just two tabs to the right (Table / Chart / Map). The maps show the EDs, and the actual district names are visible underneath (albeit partly obscured by population density colour coding), so you can often see where the two diverge. For some areas, it's easy enough to get a roughly accurate match, possibly excluding some areas and including others which don't share a naming label but do belong - but for some, it is not. A good example of the latter would be Terenure and Greenhills. The Terenure label occurs on areas which are nowhere near that area, while Greenhills, a decades-old residential area, is essentially absent (it's hiding as much of Templeogue-Limekiln and Terenure-St James!). For areas where things are clear enough, I'd go ahead, but for some, best to ask for help on the Talk page. Blanchardstown would be a good example of a really tough case, as there is a core area, and an ill-defined "Greater Blanchardstown". SeoR (talk) 13:16, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- Ugh, I see what you mean. Some of the divisions are too big and overlap with other areas... the Crumlin EAs covering parts of Drimnagh, and Coolock doesn't have EAs under that name. There won't be an easy way to split them unless the data is more modular. I will refrain from updating pages for now while I try to find a solution, any ideas are welcome. Coyatoc (talk) 13:25, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- Exactly, it's often a horrible mess. Another example is the well-established Fairview in inner northern Dublin - it simply is missed / carved up in the ED population records (partly in a Ballybough unit, partly in a Drumcondra one (Drumcondra proper being a couple of km away) and partly in a Clontarf West one. Why the EDs are not better matched to area boundaries (and it's not about a standard scale - they vary hugely in size and population) is a mystery to all, but it's not a new problem. I think perhaps the best bet would be to make a note on a WikiProject Ireland page or similar, logging areas which have fairly clean matches, and those which are most troubled. In the mix too are attempts to redefine locations (by developers, owners and property dealers) and tensions around some of the bigger areas (Blanc., Coolock and Tallaght, most notably, but also Clondalkin, say). SeoR (talk) 13:29, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- I give up with Dublin. There is no information available at a smaller level, the map is not of much help when an ED overlaps two or more areas. Clondalkin looked like a good match, but there are no clear definitions of the boundaries or what constitutes a specific suburb or location - is Greenhills part of Walkinstown? Are the Liberties an area of its own? I noticed that some neighbourhoods like Ashtown have populations entries from 2002 in their Wiki pages, but no idea where those are coming from. From now I will stick to updating actual towns and villages as defined by this table: https://data.cso.ie/table/F1015. Coyatoc (talk) 11:16, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- Understood, and it's a reasonable decision. To be honest, most Dublin district populations could probably be justifiably (or even optimally) be deleted, as OR / unclear. And yes, you found more examples too. Good luck with more distinct areas such as towns and villages in other counties. SeoR (talk) 19:41, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- I give up with Dublin. There is no information available at a smaller level, the map is not of much help when an ED overlaps two or more areas. Clondalkin looked like a good match, but there are no clear definitions of the boundaries or what constitutes a specific suburb or location - is Greenhills part of Walkinstown? Are the Liberties an area of its own? I noticed that some neighbourhoods like Ashtown have populations entries from 2002 in their Wiki pages, but no idea where those are coming from. From now I will stick to updating actual towns and villages as defined by this table: https://data.cso.ie/table/F1015. Coyatoc (talk) 11:16, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- Exactly, it's often a horrible mess. Another example is the well-established Fairview in inner northern Dublin - it simply is missed / carved up in the ED population records (partly in a Ballybough unit, partly in a Drumcondra one (Drumcondra proper being a couple of km away) and partly in a Clontarf West one. Why the EDs are not better matched to area boundaries (and it's not about a standard scale - they vary hugely in size and population) is a mystery to all, but it's not a new problem. I think perhaps the best bet would be to make a note on a WikiProject Ireland page or similar, logging areas which have fairly clean matches, and those which are most troubled. In the mix too are attempts to redefine locations (by developers, owners and property dealers) and tensions around some of the bigger areas (Blanc., Coolock and Tallaght, most notably, but also Clondalkin, say). SeoR (talk) 13:29, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- Ugh, I see what you mean. Some of the divisions are too big and overlap with other areas... the Crumlin EAs covering parts of Drimnagh, and Coolock doesn't have EAs under that name. There won't be an easy way to split them unless the data is more modular. I will refrain from updating pages for now while I try to find a solution, any ideas are welcome. Coyatoc (talk) 13:25, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for coming back so quickly. The maps are in the same search tool as the filtered data "slices" you are using, just two tabs to the right (Table / Chart / Map). The maps show the EDs, and the actual district names are visible underneath (albeit partly obscured by population density colour coding), so you can often see where the two diverge. For some areas, it's easy enough to get a roughly accurate match, possibly excluding some areas and including others which don't share a naming label but do belong - but for some, it is not. A good example of the latter would be Terenure and Greenhills. The Terenure label occurs on areas which are nowhere near that area, while Greenhills, a decades-old residential area, is essentially absent (it's hiding as much of Templeogue-Limekiln and Terenure-St James!). For areas where things are clear enough, I'd go ahead, but for some, best to ask for help on the Talk page. Blanchardstown would be a good example of a really tough case, as there is a core area, and an ill-defined "Greater Blanchardstown". SeoR (talk) 13:16, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
Sources for Irish population
[edit]Thanks for your thanks for my modest work adding rows to the table on List of urban areas in the Republic of Ireland. I had noticed your additions to various localities. It's great to have up-to-date information on all these pages! Might I suggest though that instead of the table from data.cso.ie with all towns listed, it would be better to link to the specific town on Local Statistics mapping app published by the CSO last week. It gives a more stable and archive-friendly link than that full table. It is a little more work than linking back to the same table each time, but probably still better overall to the reader. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 09:59, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hehe it's no modest work, I love seeing population stats updated. Great suggestion about using the CSO mapping app. I will modify the ref links on my updated pages over the week. Cheers. Coyatoc (talk) 10:03, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Iveagh Gardens, when you have a chance could you check if the CSO2022 link I just replaced for the Dingle page has the correct format? Cheers. Coyatoc (talk) 10:15, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- That's the one! Really good to have that direct link. Great to collaborate on that. I'll be somewhat sporadic in my contributions, as time allows. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 10:24, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hey Iveagh Gardens, hope all is good. Thank you for updating the list of Urban Areas up to 250, great job. Are you OK with me adding the rank and percentage changes to 200-250, or are you working on it? I have spare time today and tomorrow. Cheers. Coyatoc (talk) 17:10, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- Do go ahead! I'll have fairly limited time over the coming weeks, so apart from formatting reviews on the local election pages, won't be contributing too much. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 11:48, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- Hey Iveagh Gardens, hope all is good. Thank you for updating the list of Urban Areas up to 250, great job. Are you OK with me adding the rank and percentage changes to 200-250, or are you working on it? I have spare time today and tomorrow. Cheers. Coyatoc (talk) 17:10, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- That's the one! Really good to have that direct link. Great to collaborate on that. I'll be somewhat sporadic in my contributions, as time allows. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 10:24, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Iveagh Gardens, when you have a chance could you check if the CSO2022 link I just replaced for the Dingle page has the correct format? Cheers. Coyatoc (talk) 10:15, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
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