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		This is for you Dave Bevis. For all your hard work adding all the images .... even the ones for other lesser counties! Victuallers (talk) 10:35, 31 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Newton, Derbyshire

... that although there are 87 places in England that are called Newton there is only one that is called Newton in Derbyshire?

5x expanded by Davebevis (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 22:33, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK? Victuallers (talk) 22:33, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tell the regulars at the Geo and Dragon that a picture of their home will be on the front page of wikipedia on the evening of the 7th Nov. Well done Victuallers (talk) 10:29, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Newton, Derbyshire

On 7 November 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Newton, Derbyshire, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the George & Dragon pub (present building pictured) at Newton, Derbyshire, was recorded in 1577? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Orlady (talk) 18:03, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

River Don, South Yorkshire

Thanks for letting me know about the bridges. I was struggling to find a ref for the opening of Nursery Street footbridge. Bob1960evens (talk) 11:53, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well done on all the bridge info added to the article. However, I am not convinced that every bridge needs to be in its own subsection, as it makes the index at the top huge, which tends to put people off reading what follows, which would be a shame. Have you considered using the '*' to produce a dot, and maybe triple quotes for bold? For example

Bridge name

If you do not want all the bridges to be in one section, you could perhaps break it into two or three subsections based on geography. Also, WP:MOS suggests that the ref tags should come after the punctuation, so you have: "This is a fact.<ref>ref goes here</ref>" rather than "This is a fact<ref>ref goes here</ref>." It just saves having to change them all later if we want to get a good article assessment. (This probably ought to be on the article talk page, but never mind.) Bob1960evens (talk) 18:13, 7 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dave, the article is looking much better. I have left a couple of notes on the article talk page, about Abyssinia bridge, Borough bridge and references in general. Keep up the good work! Bob1960evens (talk) 12:09, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think I might have solved the Borough Bridge conundrum. Most of the details from the Riverside Cafe Bar refer to the iron footbridge, and not to Borough Bridge itself, I think. I have not altered the article yet. Bob1960evens (talk) 14:31, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dave. I dropped a note on the talk page about overlinking. Basically, you need the first occurence of a subject to be linked, and all subsequent occurrences should not be linked. There is some debate about whether there should only be one link per article, or whether you can have one per section. I think it depends on the length of the article really. So I think we need one link to the 1864 flood, which is why I suggested it might be worth expanding the first sentence of the bridges section to include mention of the flood and that it destroyed several bridges, linking that, and then not linking it in the individual entries for each bridge. Have a think about it. Bob1960evens (talk) 10:59, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dave, me again. Since you mentioned the board in the Riverside Cafe, I wondered if you live in Sheffield. If you do and you get a chance, have a look at the Upper Don Walk board which is just downstream of the Iron Bridge. I am still convinced that most of the info under Borough Bridge refers to the iron bridge. The foundation stone for Borough Bridge was laid on 12 March 1853, it was completed around 1856, and it withstood the Sheffield flood. Bob1960evens (talk) 23:25, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Matlock, Derbyshire

I watch this page, and couldn't help but look at your recent edits. I wouldn't normally bother, but I wanted to say thank you and well done. Your additions were really good, plus well referenced as far as I can see, and the images are great. I gather you took them yourself? Anyway, well done and thanks again - HIGHFIELDS (TALK • CONTRIBUTIONS) 16:18, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

River Don Navigation

Hi Dave, I see you have been busy again, with a new section of bridges. I have altered the map by widening it, so that some of those in the Rotherham area can show railway interconnections for context. I have been thinking of nominating the article for a Good Article review, but that will have to go on hold for a bit, unless you can help. There seem to be quite a few railway facts with no refs, and I wondered what your sources were for these. Do you have access to books or atlases that could provide suitable refs for the dates? So for Midland Railway bridges, for instance, there are four dates, and the fact that it is freight only. I don't have anything that covers that sort of stuff.

Also, the Bridge Street Bridge section seems a bit sad. There is a cursory mention of Chantry bridge, which must be one of the most important bridges historically on the whole system. Without the river, the navigation would not be a navigation, so I think we need to cover that one because of its significance. There seem to be lots of facts on the ref you give, and it must have a historical monuments record, too. Regards. Bob1960evens (talk) 12:43, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dave, I have responded to your last comment on my page. Bob1960evens (talk) 23:09, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again. I have just noticed a problem with the images. They have an "Alt=Alternative Text" entry. This is to help visually impaired readers, so if there is an Alt entry, it should describe the image in general terms. (You can see it by hovering over the image). I have had a go at altering the Midland Railway bridges one. Would you like to have a go at some of the others? Bob1960evens (talk) 08:29, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Another response on my page. Bob1960evens (talk) 11:27, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Another response on my page. Bob1960evens (talk) 16:00, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dave, if you have no objections, I would like to move some of our recent discussion to the Don Navigation talk page, as that is where it really belongs, and the fact that there has been discussion about the content is good for the GA review. Bob1960evens (talk) 22:40, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

River Maun

Hi Dave, I needed a picture for the River Maun article, and found one of yours on Geograph, which had been copied to Commons, so I have used it. Thanks. However, it is called "Mansfield - River Meden Trail", but shows the Maun, as the Meden is quite a bit further north. I don't know that there is much to be done, but thought I would mention it. Bob1960evens (talk) 17:53, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikilink now corrected. Davebevis (talk) 13:21, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: George H Widdows (February 14)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Hirolovesswords was:

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Hirolovesswords (talk) 22:33, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: George H Widdows (February 19)

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10:35:39, 23 February 2015 review of submission by Davebevis

Davebevis (talk · contribs)

Dear AFC Help Desk,

I submitted a first draft of the article "Draft:George H Widdows" and this was rejected on notability grounds.

I extended the article and submitted it as a second draft. This was rejected on copyright violation grounds and then it was deleted because it met the speedy-deletion criteria.

Having now read the help articles on copyright, plaguarism and paraphrasing, I feel reasonably confident that I can re-work the article to avoid copyright violations. However, I would be grateful if you could confirm a few things about submitting a further (third) draft:

(a) Please can you confirm that my second draft successfully addressed the notability issues that caused my first draft to be rejected?

(b) Please can you confirm that, for my third draft, I will need to re-input the whole article rather than amend the (now-deleted) text that I submitted as my second draft?

(c) Please can you confirm that I can use the same name for my article as I did when I first submitted it?

Davebevis (talk) 10:35, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see the deleted second Draft, so I will leave an administrator to comment on that.

It is generally easier to start again using your own words entirely rather than work from a version that had copyright problems, however the deleting administrator may possibly be willing to email you the deleted text if you ask them.

Yes you can use the same name for the Draft, or for the article. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 13:47, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your advice - it should help me plan how best to re-work the article. I hope to avoid having to contact an administrator to retrieve "lost" text. I intend to rebuild the article via my sandbox and resubmit it from there. Davebevis (talk) 09:54, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: George H. Widdows has been accepted

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Sir George Kenning (December 6)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Sir George Kenning (December 8)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SwisterTwister was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability—see the guidelines on the notability of people and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing, so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia.
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Sir George Kenning (December 9)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by LaMona was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability—see the guidelines on the notability of people and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing, so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia.
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LaMona (talk) 14:33, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Sir George Kenning (December 12)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Onel5969 was:

This submission's references do not adequately evidence the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of people and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

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Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:54, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Sir George Kenning has been accepted

Sir George Kenning, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
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DGG ( talk ) 17:13, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I just accepted the article, and reminded those who had rejected it that the ONDB itself has always been regarded a proof of notability. The article does need some improvements in format: please write in paragraphs, not bullet points. And we refer to people by their last name within an article: Kenning, not George (except when its ambiguous whether it means him or his father) . I fixed the first section as an example. DGG ( talk ) 18:17, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Sir George Kenning

On 10 January 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sir George Kenning, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Sir George Kenning called his Derby car showroom Morris House and it was opened by Sir William Morris? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sir George Kenning. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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