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October 2020

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Information icon Hello, I'm Cairo2k18. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Simone Barone seemed less than neutral and has been removed. If you think this was a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Cairo2k18(talk)(contribs) 11:06, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon Please do not add commentary, your own point of view, or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to Simone Barone. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. Cairo2k18(talk)(contribs) 11:55, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Pippo Baudo. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Transcendental36 (talk) 15:31, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Trascendental36, the one about Pippo Baudo is a largely know historical fact in Italy and there are even YouTube evidences as well as newspapers articles. I do believe it's important to include it within his page, so I'll try to rewrite the fact more synthetically. I'll include the sentence "Pippo, io mi butto" as it's historical for Italians and the Festival Della Canzone Italiana. Thank you for your contribution! ITProSpecialOne (talk) 16:21, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, you may be blocked from editing. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 18:04, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Vaseline, I’m adding very well documented and largely known content, especially among among Italians: as I’m editing Italian characters, I perfectly know that some specific content may seem bizarre, but it is not. If you cannot even accept content where links are added, you are preventing other people from knowledge. Please, If you think my content is not sourced correctly, add sources (you will find tons, if you are open-minded and search for it in the internet). I have only to learn from you guys that are more used to edit than me. Thank you very much for your suggestions, and please be patient with my desire for improving Wikipedia with high-quality content. ITProSpecialOne (talk) 18:46, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia. 47.227.95.73 (talk) 19:56, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your patient. How can I provide sourced material? What’s the technical meaning of “sourced material”? Thank you for answering and please forgive my excessive will of improving Wikipedia. ITProSpecialOne (talk) 20:02, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ITProSpecialOne: To learn how to provide sources, please see WP:CITE and WP:RS. 47.227.95.73 (talk) 20:08, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Stop icon This is your only warning; if you violate Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy by inserting unsourced or poorly sourced defamatory content into an article or any other Wikipedia page again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 20:26, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Vaseline, a content should be considered defamatory when it states something wrong or imprecise. Everything I wrote is documented and there are sources in Italian. Of course, one should understand Italian to read those sources, as they are very specific. I hope you will add yourself some of the contents I propose. Thank you for your collaboration. ITProSpecialOne (talk) 20:31, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent bold edit has been reverted. Per the bold, revert, discuss cycle, after a bold edit is reverted, the status quo should remain while a discussion is started instead of edit-warring, and it should be resolved before reinstating the edit, after a needed consensus is formed to keep it. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 19:55, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dear @Vaselineeeeeeee: please stop being so relentless and dictatorial about Tiziano Crudeli's page. Keep reverting the useful changes made by ITProSpecialOne it's just immature and shows no respect on a person who is trying to improve a great commentator page which is lacking on facts that are largely known in Italy and that are the foundation of Tiziano's success and also the reason why he is so famous and appreciated here in Italy, even by opponent teams supporters. In the specific case, the page is utterly incomplete if historical lines such as "vergogna!" and "l'ha messa!" (and I would also suggest "fratelli rossoneri") are omitted. Please consider not to revert changes anymore and please respect the work of a lifelong Tiziano Crudeli fan like ITProSpecialOne is. All the best. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.9.157.137 (talk) 08:14, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 18:59, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]


You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

  1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
  2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 19:00, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Carlo Pellegatti for deletion

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MrsSnoozyTurtle (talk) 02:47, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pellegatti, Crudeli e Co

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Ti scrivo in italiano. Su it.wiki tutti i contributi che inserisci verrebbero rimossi come fuffa (crap). Buongiorno == Allegria ci può stare ma non puoi fare un equivalenza simile in quanto Crudeli è un giornalista locale, Buongiorno è un simbolo della tv italiana. La domanda che poni : Cannot understand why the content was reverted: these lines are for Crudeli the same as what is “Allegria!” for Mike Bongiorno or “Eppur si muove” for Galilei addirittura mettendo a confronto Galileo è offensiva per una enciclopedia. You write mere Gossip ! Ciao.-- Windino [Rec] 12:19, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Windino, for your straightforward opinion. Notwithstanding, I must point out that those contributions are lines which, willingly or not, became part of Italian culture, more specifically Italian football culture, in particular among youngsters, who consider those characters real celebrities (and they are indeed). Yes, some lines are pure euphoria and emotions, but that's not a reason for delation. I do think that some youngsters wouldn't recognize Bongiorno's "Allegria!", but they would tell you by heart those commentators' lines. Maybe what I'm saying is an offense to an encyclopedia, but devaluing those characters and their lines is an offese to the truth. Forgive me for speaking with equal frankness. Thank you, ciao! -- ITProSpecialOne

June 2021

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Information icon Hello, I'm Dr Salvus. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Massimiliano Allegri have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse. Thanks. Dr Salvus 12:10, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dr Salvus, thank you for this message. I think that the nickname that Italian newspapers and sportsmen use for Allegri is a relevant piece of information. Don’t you agree? It’s also well documented. It’s really something important. Could you also suggest a section within Allegri’s page to include his racecourse interest and/or his horse metaphors to express football ideas (maybe Style of management section). There are tons of relevant references and interesting concepts he has been expressing during his Juve press conferences. He also owns a horse, why not including this? For those who don’t know his (sometimes bizzarre style) this info could seem non-relevant, but it seems to me that people may miss part of his thought if we don’t include all of this. Consider that he has been talking and talking in Tv broadcasts about those aspects in that way. Of course, only when a relevant source talks about this aspects we should include them, but the thing is not only well known among Italian football fans, but also widely documented. Let me know what you think. Thank you! ITProSpecialOne (talk) 12:33, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps your edit wasn't vandalism but it was unnecessary Dr Salvus 18:33, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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