User talk:Lennart97/Archive 2

Archive 2 (November 2020-March 2021)

A barnstar for you!

		The Disambiguator's Barnstar
		The Disambiguator's Barnstar is awarded to Wikipedians who are prolific disambiguators. For an outstanding run in the October 2020 DAB Challenge. You kept me looking over my shoulder the whole way. Nick Number (talk) 00:53, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Seconded! You have earned a place in the Hall of Fame, and helped to reduce the total in WP:TDD#Table 1 Column 2 by almost 11,000 over the month.

If you would like to beautify your User Page, you might consider adding: {{User:J04n/Userboxes/Disambiguator HoF}} {{DPL topicon}} {{WikiGnome topicon}}

I trust you know of WP:DPL and WT:DPL? Narky Blert (talk) 09:16, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Hey @Nick Number: and @Narky Blert: Thank you both so much, both for the recognition and for making the competition so much fun! I am of course honoured to be in the Hall of Fame alongside you, and I look forward to yet another productive month of DPL-fixing :) Lennart97 (talk) 12:26, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For your improvements to Yan Xiyun. I dream of horses (Contribs) Please notify me after replying off my talk page. Thank you. 21:54, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much, @I dream of horses:! I really appreciate it. Lennart97 (talk) 23:34, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Michel Platnic

Thank you for improve the article, and may be this will also improve a little your "talk page", Ha Ha Ronavni (talk) 12:35, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Hey @Ronavni:, I think you accidentally posted this on my user page instead of my talk page, so I moved it over here. Anyway - you're more than welcome, and thanks for the recognition! :) Lennart97 (talk) 12:56, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Elliot Page

Thanks for the note in the accompanying edit summary. Regarding whether to use 'formerly' or 'born', I'll confess to still favouring 'born' à la Manning and Jenner. I can't really think of any other examples that were sufficiently in the public eye prior to transition. However, there seemed to have been quite a contentious (and of course long) debate in the talk page and I don't feel sufficiently strongly about the issue to reignite it. Thanks!

Sdrqaz (talk) 00:35, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

@Sdrqaz: Thank you for the nice message! I appreciate it! Lennart97 (talk) 12:55, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

@Sdrqaz: - A (talk page stalker) writes: Jan Morris and Wendy Carlos are two others who had notable careers before transitioning. Narky Blert (talk) 09:51, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Narky Blert for the information: they both seem to use the born format. Though I guess they're not on the same scale of notability as Page et al. Sdrqaz (talk) 11:32, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Re:Cavendish

Dear User:Lennart97, thank you for your message on my talk page. This is what happens when autocorrect takes over one's laptop: Hindu Kush turns into Cavendish! I've made the correction now and hope that my expansion of that article was helpful to you! With regards, Anupam^Talk 01:04, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

@Anupam: Thanks for your reply, and for fixing it! Reading this made me laugh out loud, after having thought so hard about what 'Cavendish' could possibly be. By the way, I see that the DPL bot left you a message on your talk page when you added that link. Keep up the good work! Lennart97 (talk) 12:41, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

The "List of Bollywood films" troll

I don't know if you've noticed this nuisance while DABfixing; you did clean up some of the mess he'd created in List of Bollywood films of 1981. The signature activity is removing large numbers of piped links from "List of Bollywood films of xxxx". See WP:ANI#IP editors breaking links in Indian film-related lists (Part 3) for the story so far. If you spot him, revert him if you can do so without causing damage (WP:TWINKLE can be useful) and {{ping}} me - I have a bookmarks folder on him.

Beste wensen voor 2021, Narky Blert (talk) 09:44, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

@Narky Blert: Thanks for the heads up and best wishes to you too! I had noticed the nuisance, but assumed it was nothing more than a natural consequence of the large number of Bollywood films and personalities sharing names. I'll be on the lookout from now on! Lennart97 (talk) 09:53, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Peoria IL USA

I don't think you know enough about Peoria IL or the people to be making changes. A wikipedia page is NOT the gold standard for inclusion a a notable list! Stop reverting!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:247:4203:9F10:6077:A89C:317:8883 (talk) 12:53, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi. There's a reason that there is a notice above the list saying This section contains embedded lists that may be poorly defined, unverified or indiscriminate. It should contain only notable people. Notability (see WP:N) is established by coverage by reliable sources (see WP:RS). Discogs is not a reliable source, and a list of credits doesn't establish notability. This Don Smith being "much more famous than most people on that page" is just your opinion apparently, and all those people having an article but not him suggests otherwise. Anyway, he can stay in the list if you provide a reliable source that shows he is notable, that's fine with me. Not as Donald Smith, that's a disambiguation page as I explained, but as Don Smith (producer). Lennart97 (talk) 13:30, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

By the way, I've noticed a history of your disruptive editing on that article. Such as removing maintenance tags here and removing people with established notability from the list here. I hope you realise this kind of behaviour can and will get you blocked from editing. You probably do, because your talk page shows a list of warnings you have received. Lennart97 (talk) 13:46, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

A list from Discogs has been submitted and that is industry standard! You are disruptive and be getting the next warning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:247:4203:9F10:6077:A89C:317:8883 (talk) 09:57, 1 January 2021 (UTC) I understand you are trying to earn stars and praise but you are wrong here https://www.discogs.com/artist/221360-Don-Smith. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:247:4203:9F10:6077:A89C:317:8883 (talk) 10:01, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Discogs consists of user-generated content and is therefore not considered a reliable source, please see Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources#Sources and scroll down for the entry on Discogs. And thank you for understanding that "I am trying to earn stars and praise", but what I'm actually doing here is trying to build an encyclopedia, while it seems you are not. If adding Don Smith to that list is so important to you, providing a reliable source really shouldn't be too much trouble. Lennart97 (talk) 12:11, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Well.. I guess you had better remove nearly EVERYONE from the Peoria list because I can find nothing on many of them. Let me remind you that Wikipedia consists of user-generated content and is therefore not considered a reliable source!Looks like you have a lot of work to do in removing everyone except maybe two. You are playing games with Wiki. Luckily for you ..I found Mr Smith under his nickname on Imdb https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4606767/ Let me remind you this is a community and the list was fine until you came along. Are you an American? Would you know anything of which you are editing? Now you can stop undoing my work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:247:4203:9F10:6077:A89C:317:8883 (talk) 09:19, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

You are trying to earn stars and make Hall of Fames an you have NO IDEA what you are doing! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:247:4203:9F10:6077:A89C:317:8883 (talk) 01:57, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Another barnstar for you!

		The Super Disambiguator's Barnstar
		The Super Disambiguator's Barnstar is awarded to the winners of the Disambiguation pages with links monthly challenge, who have gone above and beyond to remove ambiguous links. Your achievement will be recorded at the Hall of Fame. This award is presented to Lennart97, for successfully fixing 3119 links in the challenge of December 2020.

Yes, it's a different one.

I imagine you were pleased with fixing "Surender" in this diff; I would have been.

Where do you find the links you fix? I cycle through Disambiguation pages with links, starting from ones with 5 links or so, continue to the end, and go back to the top again. Some DABfixers firefight at the very top of the list; it's a good idea to avoid duplicating effort. The DAB Challenge and WP:TDD#Today's highlights only count links present on the 1st of the month, so some of the most prolific DABfixers hardly show up in the statistics.

8,000 is a good workable number in TDD Table 1 Column 2. Over 20,000 can be dispiriting; and when it was below 2,000 in December 2018, we were all tripping over each other.

Happy New Year! Narky Blert (talk) 08:22, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

@Narky Blert: Thanks for the star, Narky, and a happy new year to you too! I focus on the older links; I usually start out with the most-linked entries of the monthly challenge, and as that list thins out, I start doing random alphabetical chunks from the backlog of pages with just 1 link (it can be surprisingly satisfying to see all the Thomases, Johns, or "acronyms starting with an S" disappear from the list!). In addition, I've started going through the monthly DABlink categories, oldest first. Quite often a DABlink has already been fixed or otherwise disappeared but the "dn" template is still there. I haven't found myself stumbling over anyone else so far! But if I do, with the stars and praise that I'm allegedly after (see above) already in the pocket, I'll be happy to adapt :p Lennart97 (talk) 12:38, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

I cut my teeth on that category, in 2016. It had around 11,800 entries, some dating back to 2010. I helped get it down to 4,600 before everything in it got too difficult. I look again at the older entries from time to time, in case I might have a new idea. You might also be interested in Category:Monthly clean-up category (Set index articles with links needing disambiguation) counter. Narky Blert (talk) 13:10, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

@Narky Blert: It completely slipped my mind to reply, but it's never too late. Yes, the SIA-dablinks are an interesting bunch - if only they weren't so difficult! But don't worry, I'll definitely have a crack at them :) Lennart97 (talk) 00:58, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Oh, and as I know you enjoy fun disambiguation fixes (and yes, I was definitely quite pleased with Surender) - I recently brought one of the oldest dablinks still around, the link to Carpolite on Petrogenetic grid, to the attention of Wikiproject Geology, where it was quickly pointed out it was a simple misspelling of Carpholite - correctly spelled in the image accompanying the article. Again quite pleased, though just the slightest bit embarrassed, with that one! Lennart97 (talk) 01:07, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Very well done! carpolite had been bugging me; I've crosslinked those two pages. If one person has made that typo, so will someone else.

I've enlisted help from several WikiProjects, but have never tried WP Geology. WP Mathematics, Medicine, Judaism, and Classical Greece and Rome in particular are superb. I bookmark difficult links, and unload onto them from time to time. On the other hand, WP China and Vietnam are in my experience no help at all.

I can't easily find my favourite fix, from about 4 years ago. It involved creative googling in Czech, English, German and Polish - in two steps. After 40 minutes, I may have been the only person on the planet who knew which C14 German lordling had handed over which castle to which Polish bishop as a gift, and why. (He'd unwisely chosen to attack a small and inoffensive neighbour - who turned out to have some large and irascible friends...) Narky Blert (talk) 18:57, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Sounds like quite a story! One really does learn a lot while dab-fixing, occasionally. And thanks for the crosslinking - it hadn't occurred to me, but that could prove very helpful indeed! Lennart97 (talk) 19:54, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Disney Children's Favorite Songs

Let's see how WP:RFPP#Disney Children's Favorite Songs turns out. Narky Blert (talk) 12:27, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Narky! Very persistent indeed; requesting protection hadn't crossed my mind. Lennart97 (talk) 12:41, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

We've got one month's peace. Narky Blert (talk) 05:00, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Your Edits in List of hobbies

Hi there. Hopefully I am editing this page here correctly. I have a question about your edit on List of hobbies. I had put Chatting as a hobby in a general sense, because there are a variety of ways how people like to chat. You specified it though to online chatting. I think it could be more general? Or would you list all the specific examples of chatting instead? — Preceding unsigned comment added by A998524 (talk • contribs) 17:42, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Another question: I also saw that you changed decorating to decorative arts. This changes the meaning of what I gave. While decorative arts is a discipline in itself, people also like just decorating their house or inside or whatever, without necessarily the desire to craft the objects itself.

@A998524: Hi, and thanks for coming here to discuss! It's normal practice to add a new discussion at the bottom of the page (the "New section" button next to "Edit" does this automatically) and don't forget to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).

About my edit: I did not intend to change the meanings, only to fix disambiguation pages with links, as both chatting and decoration are disambiguation pages. The problem with links to disambiguation pages is generally that it's unclear for the reader which meaning is intended. In this case, while chatting as a hobby could refer to any of the means of conversation listed under Communication at chatting, all the other meanings of chat or chatting are definitely not intended. Similarly, decoration lists various meanings of decorating that could be hobbies, but also various that are most likey not (the ones related to programming and computing, for example). So while intentionally linking to disambiguation pages is occasionally helpful (see WP:INTDAB), in this case I don't think that's the way to go. It might be better to list the multiple intended meanings individually - for example, listing Conversation and Online chatting make sense to me, but the other meanings of chatting seem too minor to specifically be hobbies. Similarly, I would only include the meanings of decorating which are clearly hobbies of many people. I hope this helps! Lennart97 (talk) 20:32, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Alright. I understand. This gives me a better grip on how to edit these articles. Thank you. A998524 (talk) 21:02, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Basis for disambiguation for Rob Johnson (soccer)

This edit to the article for Rob Johnson (soccer) disambiguates Freehold, New Jersey to Freehold Township, New Jersey. I have spent time over the years trying to figure out whether he was born in Freehold Borough or Freehold Township, but I have been unable to find any evidence either way. You had made this same disambiguation last month, which I reverted with an edit summary stating that "there is still no evidence either way to attribute this to Freehold Borough or Freehold Township". Before I revert again, do you have any reliable and verifiable basis for your disambiguation to Freehold Township? Alansohn (talk) 00:41, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

@Alansohn: My apologies, I didn't realise that I had edited the page before and that you had reverted my edit. Unfortunately you are right and I have no reliable and verifiable basis for that disambiguation. I based it on a notion that "Freehold NJ" usually seems to refer to the township and I'll be the first to admit that that is no proper basis for a disambiguation. I propose that instead of reverting it to dab-needed status, we make it an intentional dablink (per WP:INTDAB) and add a footnote to explain it isn't known whether he was born in the township or the borough. That would probably save future time and effort for both would-be dabfixers and for you reverting faulty dabfixes like mine, as it appears to be simply unknown where the man was born. Lennart97 (talk) 10:17, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. That seems to be an appropriate approach to avoid any issues. Alansohn (talk) 13:28, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Done. Feel free to change the wording of the footnote in any way if you feel it's necessary. Lennart97 (talk) 15:44, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

I've run into this ambiguous disambiguation issue before, and I will use your edits as a model. Thanks so much for fixing this. Much appreciated. Alansohn (talk) 19:35, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

And thank you for pointing out my sloppy edit in the first place! I'll be more mindful about these situations in the future. Lennart97 (talk) 20:46, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

question on deleted entry

I made my first edit in mid-January, so I'm the rawest of rookies.

In mid-January, I added an entry to the disambiguation page for SAIL, which (if I'm interpreting the log correctly) you deleted a couple of days later. I'm so ignorant that I don't know the protocol for this, but I would appreciate an explanation of what I did wrong that caused the entry to require deletion.

Thanks Bulldogjim (talk) 22:07, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi! You saw correctly that I removed that entry. The purpose of disambiguation pages is to distinguish between Wikipedia articles with similar names. The entry you added consisted not of a link to a Wikipedia article, but of a link to a different website, an external link. External links do not belong on disambiguation pages, as you can read at Wikipedia:Disambiguation#External links.

Occasionally, disambiguation pages do contain red links, which link to non-existent Wikipedia articles, as described at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Disambiguation pages#Red links. This is done only if the topic of that link is considered sufficiently notable that an article could be written about it, according to Wikipedia's notability guidelines at Wikipedia:Notability. The short version of those requirements is that the topic needs to have received significant, independent coverage from reliable sources. The topic that you added, a local education program, is very unlikely to fulfill this requirement.

Summarising: I removed the entry completely because 1. it is an external link and 2. replacing it by a red link is not justified based on lack of notability. I hope that clears it up! Let me know if I can help with anything else. Lennart97 (talk) 23:52, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

INTDAB

This is a guideline only, and I am unsure who is the "community" that has suggested this...the version on the article has been stable for a while, see WP:NOTBROKEN...please also actually read WP:BRD. GiantSnowman 12:29, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Oh come on. The reason is clearly given right before the bold line. In order to find and fix those errors, disambiguators generate a wide array of reports of links needing to be checked and fixed. Because these reports cannot distinguish instances where an editor has made such a link with the intent to point to the disambiguation page, the community has adopted the procedure of rerouting all intentional disambiguation links in mainspace through "Foo (disambiguation)" redirects. The link is currently broken because it shows up in the reports and if not me, someone else will eventually fix it. By reverting it, you're not just wasting my time and your time right now, but also others' in the future. If you don't believe me, just ask over at Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation pages with links, where you'll find quick confirmation that this is standard practice for good reason. You're not the first experienced editor to not know about this, and that is totally fine, but you're the first making a fuss upon learning about it and I'm not sure why. Lennart97 (talk) 12:37, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

BRD? I am discussing, see above. Do I need to ping you (@GiantSnowman:) just because you decided to take the discussion to my talk page? Lennart97 (talk) 12:42, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Please stop reverting and discuss first - that's kinda the point of BRD. Restoring your edits at the same time as your attempt at discussion (one post) is not right. Now, what "errors" are you on about? GiantSnowman 12:43, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Never mind, I've found the answer at Template:Dablinks/FAQ. In future I suggest you use a better edit summary to explain (maybe linking to INTDAB and/or the FAQ) to avoid further confusion, because if it confuses senior editors, imagine what it does to juniors! We got there in the end, cheers. GiantSnowman 12:46, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

I'm glad we finally got there. As for better edit summaries - I did link to WP:INTDAB immediately after your first revert, but instead of taking what you read there to heart, you questioned its validity. So at least in this case, including that in my edit summary wouldn't have prevented all this. Anyway, it only rarely happens that this type of edit gets reverted, and when it does it's normally resolved very quickly, so it's not the best use of my time to add something like that to every edit summary. Cheers. Lennart97 (talk) 12:55, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Civility Barnstar
	Thanks for the cookhouse inspiration. --evrik (talk) 22:03, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

@Evrik: Wow, thanks! I really appreciate it. And I take back what I said about that article's viability - it's a very neat stub! If I may suggest an improvement, it would be more consistency in the tense; it says that a cookhouse is a small building where cooking takes place, but that they complemented the bunkhouse; do they not still complement the bunkhouse? Anyway, thanks again! Lennart97 (talk) 22:13, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

• Go back and look again. Any more suggestions? --evrik ^(talk) 07:23, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

@Evrik: Nope, nothing to remark other than the very small fix I just did. Great work! Lennart97 (talk) 11:53, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Request

Hi I can see you edit India Wikipedia page I want to request you please edit India into a communist countries list they locked the edit option please only you can help I am doing this because of recent events happening in India please help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Satanlove69 (talk • contribs) 10:53, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

@Satanlove69: Hi. If you cannot edit a page yourself, you can make an edit request at its talk page, this is explained at Wikipedia:Edit requests. In this particular case, however, your request will likely be rejected as India is not a communist country.

As you're new to Wikipedia, it could generally help to check out the resources on Help:Getting started, if you haven't done so already. Also, you should probably look at Wikipedia:Username policy. While I personally don't mind, your username might be considered offensive by others. Lastly, remember to sign your comments. I hope this helps and feel free to ask anything else. Lennart97 (talk) 11:50, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello and nice to meet you and thanks for your quick response but India is democratic socialist country and that's why I am asking for help if you can change that that will be a stone in a Lake but it will disturb the surface — Preceding unsigned comment added by Satanlove69 (talk • contribs) 19:20, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

@Satanlove69: Again, you can request an edit through an edit request on the article's talk page as I explained above. Good luck! Lennart97 (talk) 19:22, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Union Free School District

I see you unlinked Union Free School District] in the Freeport Public Schools article. @Leschnei: And I see that the (appropriately referenced) explanation of the term "Union Free School District" has been removed from Union Free School, where Union Free School District redirects, and that the term is once again defined nowhere in Wikipedia. This does not seem like a good solution. Would either of you object if I turn Union Free School District from a redirect into a stub article, put the (referenced) definition there, and re-link it from Freeport Public Schools?

Please ping me if responding. I don't keep a watchlist on en-wiki these days. - Jmabel | Talk 22:55, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

@Jmabel: Hi. I unlinked Union Free School District because I couldn't find an article that explains the general term - of course unaware that the disambiguation page used to do just that. Turning Union Free School District into a stub would be a decent solution, but I'm not sure if 2 lines of text and a single ref would justify a separate article.

Another solution could be this: restore the definition at Union Free School and convert that page into a stub article - one with both a definition and a list of schools that fit the definition. After all, the dab page currently doesn't quite disambiguate between topics with the same name: the only school simply called Union Free School is Union Free School (Downsville, New York); the others have different names. A hatnote could be included for readers who are looking for that specific school. So basically the same as it was, but without calling it a dab. Does that make sense? Lennart97 (talk) 23:20, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

But is there such a thing as a "Union Free School" or is that just part of the names of some schools? Unless I'm mistaken, NY law defines a "Union Free School District" and has done so since the 19th Century. - Jmabel | Talk 23:45, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

@Jmabel and Lennart97: Perhaps follow Lennart97's suggestion but put the article at Union Free School District, and make Union Free School a redirect? Leschnei (talk) 23:56, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

That sounds fine to me as well. Lennart97 (talk) 00:10, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Thought that was what I proposed. Fine with me. Looks like we are there.

Justification for a separate article is nearly two centuries of history that we probably don't have an article on anywhere. - Jmabel | Talk 22:54, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

@Jmabel: Perfect! I was expecting a shorter stub, this is very nice. I've added a link to Union Free School to it, so that readers can quickly find all schools that have the term in their name. Lennart97 (talk) 23:53, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Help

Hello Lennart! May I take a help from you? Actually, the page Kanglei mythology has a redirect Meitei mythology. Can the redirect name be the original title of the article because the article deserves to be called Meitei mythology as per the references cited. The references don't mention the word "Kanglei". Can you change it please? Haoreima (talk) 11:30, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: Hi! Because Meitei mythology already exists, I am unable to perform this move, since I don't have the page mover user right. But even if I could, I am not entirely sure that this move can be considered uncontroversial (I'm not at all familiar with the topic). For both reasons, I suggest you follow the procedure described at Wikipedia:Requested moves. If no valid objections arise in that process, someone will move the page for you. I hope that helps. Lennart97 (talk) 11:48, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. Haoreima (talk) 11:53, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Middelburg

Thanks for your help with Middleburg however if you look at the history ofthe dab page Middelburg, Netherlands has been changed to Middelburg, Zeeland and it is showing as a dab again on Template:Rhine–Meuse–Scheldt delta. Can I leave you to sort that one?— Rod ^talk 19:29, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Done, thanks. Very unfortunate, that second move just after all the links had been fixed following the first one... but it is what it is. Lennart97 (talk) 19:37, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Also Template:Dutch capital cities, Template:Folkestone, Template:Zeeland Province, Template:Dry docks in the Netherlands etc & presumably the hundreds of other links as well.— Rod ^talk 19:41, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I've fixed the templates. If you do want to help with the remaining links, you really can't go wrong this time - all the wrong ones have been filtered out after the first move, so every single link to Middelburg, Netherlands should with certainty be changed to Middelburg, Zeeland. Lennart97 (talk) 19:48, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

OK working on it.— Rod ^talk 20:04, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Breathless

Hi there!

If there's 4 or more films by the name of Breathless and none of them are really that popular, I'd think it's easy enough for a reader to be confused and not even realize that there are so many films by the same name and that suggesting that they check the disambig page to more properly identify the film is a good idea. So I didn't quite understand why you felt that the link to the disambig page was harmful or excessive.

By comparison, there's an article on Michael B. Jordan (the actor), who can clearly be differentiated from, say, Michael Jordan (the super famous former basketball player) by virtue of his middle initial, and yet there's a disambig suggestion at the top -- this is where I got the idea, actually, and so I modeled it after that. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts. :) DRosenbach ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 14:32, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@DRosenbach: Hi. I removed the hatnote per WP:NAMB, which says that it's usually unnecessary if the article title is not ambiguous. But I see your point that in this case it may actually be helpful, and as I certainly don't think it's harmful, please feel free to restore it! Do take note of WP:INTDAB when you do so - intentional links to disambiguation pages should go through a (disambiguation) redirect, so in this case {{about|the 2012 film|other films by the same name|Breathless (disambiguation){{!}}Breathless}}. The only reason why I removed the hatnote, really, was because it was either that or fixing it - I wouldn't have bothered removing it otherwise. In future I'll only remove such a hatnote if I do feel strongly that it's unhelpful or excessive :) Lennart97 (talk) 14:59, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Non-notable albums

Hi! I'll admit I'm not super familiar with Wikipedia's policies, but can you tell me why you are blanking pages made for certain albums and redirecting them to the artist's main page? I'd like to know more about what is considered a "notable" album. Thanks! Chris9086 (talk) 16:51, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

@Chris9086: hi, and thanks for your message. The relevant guideline for notability of albums and other musical recordings is the one at Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Recordings. If an album can't be shown to satisfy any of the criteria listed there, it shouldn't have its own article. Note also the line right after the 7 criteria that says that in any case there should be enough material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; so if, for example, an album has charted or been certified but there's a lack of significant coverage by reliable sources, it should still not have a standalone article. I'm mostly going through album articles that have been tagged as possibly non-notable (and usually also unsourced) for years, and redirecting them if I can't find any evidence of notability either. The nice thing about redirecting, though, is that the article's history is preserved, so that if someone does find evidence of notability, the article can simply be restored. I hope that answers your question! Lennart97 (talk) 17:10, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

John Paiva (Musician)

There was a page for 'John Paiva (Musicain)' that I created and had biographic material on him. I realised my spelling mistake and put in a redirect for 'John Paiva (Musician)' to there. What has happened to that original page? How can we restore a redirect to that page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dnd25 (talk • contribs) 9:05 (UTC)

@Dnd25: Hi! I actually changed John Paiva (musician) from a standalone article to a redirect to The Four Seasons (band). I proposed this at Talk:The Four Seasons (band). Basically there were two problems with the article: 1. John Paiva doesn't meet Wikipedia's notability standards (WP:BIO and specifically WP:NMUSICIAN.) There is no significant coverage about him individually. 2. the article did not have any reliable sources. Directories like Discogs, Apple Music and last.fm are not reliable sources and neither are blogs.

So based on these reasons, I proposed to make his page redirect to The Four Seasons, because he is primarily known for being part of that band, and that article mentions his name. No one objected, so I went ahead with it.

If you want to, you can restore the article simply by reverting my edit. I would not recommend doing so without adding reliable sources that establish Paiva's notability, but it's your call. I hope this clears things up! Lennart97 (talk) 13:51, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

@Dnd25: Okay, I see you've restored the article. I'd recommend that you add some sources to it to establish Paiva's notability as an individual, as WP:BANDMEMBER states Members of notable bands are redirected to the band's article, not given individual articles, unless they have demonstrated individual notability for activity independent of the band, such as solo releases. I don't think Paiva's solo activity has gotten much attention, but if you can show otherwise, that would be great. Lennart97 (talk) 09:43, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Lennart, I appreciate why you wanted to keep to the Wiki recommendations on band members. However, I just felt in this case JP's time in the Four Seasons while arguably the most noteworthy time in his music career, did not fully capture his body of work and needed its own page in response. I hope I haven't across as too intemperate, I did miss your initial response which was my error.

@Dnd25: No worries, that's alright. But the issues I outlined above remain, so unless you plan to resolve these soon, I hope you don't mind if I let WP:AFD decide the fate of the article. Lennart97 (talk) 11:57, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Dear Lennart

I wanted to correct the article as there are lack of sources. The death toll of the armenian genocide is around 1.5 million used by common sources. The map is not correct, the one I wanted to add is a map made by a German ethnographic Richard Andree in 1914, showing areas of Armenian settlement in blue: source=https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ethnic_map_of_Asia_Minor_and_Caucasus_in_1914.jpg. Thank you for your attention. Aidepikiwmeca

@Aidepikiwmeca: Hi. Contentious changes like these should be based on consensus, which means you should discuss them on the article's talk page instead of continuing to insert them even after being reverted. As it happens, both the death toll issue and the map issue have been extensively discussed on the talk page already: Talk:Armenian Genocide#Death toll? and Talk:Armenian Genocide#First arrival of Turks to Anatolia respectively. I recommend you carefully read those discussions and contribute to them if you still think your changes should be implemented. Lennart97 (talk) 12:40, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Apology and Invitation

Hello. I invite you to comment at Talk:Bhat#Requested move 20 March 2021 with an apology for this mess-up by me (I didn't receive the ping sending notification for the second time, hence I'm writing here to be sure). Thanks, Мастер Шторм (talk) 06:28, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Sure, I'll take a look. Lennart97 (talk) 11:42, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Heads up to WP:DAB...

I've just converted Carles Marco to a disambig as part of fulfilling an RM close and found it has a ton more incoming links than any previous time I've done so. I'd guess most are intended to go to Carles Marco (basketball), considering he was the original topic. I'll pick up a few of them, but it's a much bigger job for one person than the few-incoming-links articles I'm used to, so giving a heads-up to you and the WikiProject to get some more hands on the task. Vaticidalprophet 07:35, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

-- aha! Most of them were a template. Somehow those things always catch me out. Regardless, excellent work with your disambiguation. Here, take the smallest barnstar of all time: * Vaticidalprophet 07:39, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

@Vaticidalprophet: Glad to see it sorted itself out. Many thanks for the barnstar; I shall wear it with pride! Lennart97 (talk) 09:35, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Miscapitalisations.

Any reason why you labelled miscapitalisations etc. as songs, as you did here? You will note I have now removed your r from song and retagged as a duplicate redirect. I hope you approve. Thanks. --Richhoncho (talk) 10:08, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

@Richhoncho: Sorry, I'm still learning. I figured that This is a redirect from a capitalisation error. The correct form is given by the target of the redirect. didn't quite fit anymore since the target is no longer the correct form but a different topic altogether. But the correct form is included somewhere in the target article, and it's obviously still a redirect from a miscapitalisation, so you're right about that. I was also unaware of the existence of R avoided double redirect. I'll be more careful with this from now on - leave the original R categories of such redirects where they're still appropriate, add R avoided double redirect, and not add R from song/album. Thanks for pointing this out to me. Lennart97 (talk) 10:26, 29 March 2021 (UTC)