Talk:Music of Olympia, Washington
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The Love Junkies
editThere was a sentence in the opening paragraph that mentioned the band "The Love Junkies" in the same sentence as Beck and Nirvana as past Olympia inhabitants. Research yielded no mention of "The Love Junkies" on AllMusic.com, so they were removed from the sentence. It was probably an attempt of shameless self-promotion by a mostly unknown band to put itself in the same sentence as Beck and Nirvana. - Domenica— Preceding unsigned comment added by Domenica C (talk • contribs) 21:07, 20 November 2006
Hello! Someone please help alphabetize the "Old Oly Bands"!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Domenica C (talk • contribs) 04:32, 9 January 2007
Q: Can The Witch House really be considered a "venue", either past or present? Sure, I've been to plenty of parties there over the years, and have seen some good shows there, but they definitely seemed more like house parties than organized events to me.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Madhatte (talk • contribs) 02:17, 18 February 2007
Note: that last batch of edits is a bit more vigorous than is perhaps necessary. Many of the past/present bands cut from the list were and are well-known, as tapes/CD's/flyers owned by collectors such as myself can attest. Perhaps we can find some sort of objective criteria for establishing a band's significance.
so, can someone explain to me exactly why all of the current bands were removed. I mean, If you've lived in Oly at all, you'll know those bands. If it is a matter of varifying them through some other source, what's wrong with myspace, or with the booking lists at the spar, eastside, or le voyer?
Old Bands section
editThe Old Bands section is totally incomplete and too heavy on the riot grrl wave. Missing include: Militant Dervish, Nihil Obstat, Young Pioneers, Nazi Boyscouts, Idle Worship, Immoral Roberts, Mr. Yuk, Bormen, The Wimps, etc. etc. and that's only a small portion of the punk scene, not metal acts like Metal Death Squad, K Records oldies like Wild, Wild Spoons and the endless reggae and jazz groups. Where's Nisqually Delta Podunk Nightmare? I didn't see Lush or Blood Paradise. Treehouse? Dangermouse? What about later groups such as Helltrout and Unwound? Too many important acts left out. Mecca Normal weren't from Olympia, they only played there, at the Smithfield Cafe, once or a few times, afaik. Negativeland don't appear to me to have lived in Olympia. Is this an attempt to list all bands who played Olympia as Olympia bands? Then the list is too short. Kurt Cobain and the Nirvana people didn't exactly "frequent" Olympia, they lived there. People like Jello Biafra and Joey Shithead from DOA "frequented" Olympia, not to mention Paul Revere and the Raiders or the Kingsmen. The 80s Oly/Tacoma bands are completely left out. The "Venues" are woefully inadequate unless these are supposed to be current venues. Tropicana? Reko Muse? GESCO? Four Steps? Capitol and Olympic Theaters? Vertigo? The Evergreen State College? Sylvester Park? Wimps' Alley? 81.7.91.43 18:58, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
A serious pruning
editThe lists of bands need some serious pruning. For "former Olympia bands" - what exactly is the criteria for inclusion? I'm removing most of those bands that aren't notable enough to have a wikipedia article. Arguably this is too strict, but better than "any band someone remembers and decides to add". For current bands, the present list seems to have the sole criteria being that a band member or friend of a band member decided to add themselves to the article. I'm also taking out everyone without a wikipedia article, which unfortunately leaves Kimya Dawson, a metal band I've never heard of, and nothing else. This is likely to be excessive but as I haven't lived in Olympia for over 10 years I can't verify most of these. I'm hoping knowledgable editors will add back bands who should be on the list and not simply revert back to the current excessive listing. Again, insisting on a wikipedia article might be too strict but it's better than no criteria at all for inclusion. Really, this article just looks like a collective vanity page which is a shame given that Olympia clearly has had a musical influence far out of proportion to its size and merits a much better article. CAVincent (talk) 02:14, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
- The "Current Olympia Bands" section became just a long list of non-notables. Eliminated. --CAVincent (talk) 01:21, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
" The "Current Olympia Bands" section became just a long list of non-notables. Eliminated" -CAVincent Many of those bands have established discographys, and have been touring and performing for years. If information or wikipages are missing for the bands, it would be a better process to do some research on a band by band basis rather then just delete them all. The Olympia music scene is complicated, I think it is ok for the web page to reflect this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rosscowman (talk • contribs) 13:04, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Edits
editIt seems people are deleting stuff in this article. There are bands from olympia who have a spotify page or play gigs around town that people know about. Penny richer seems to have been taken off the list by someone who hasnt heard of them which in that case I havent heard of Unwound but its still here. What im getting at is if you dont know dont change it. BrennanM97 (talk) 14:55, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hey there. You might want to review Wikipedia:Notability (music). As disappointing as it may seem, having a Spotify page or playing gigs around town does not make musicians notable enough for inclusion. CAVincent (talk) 05:12, 13 October 2022 (UTC)