This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Barelvi movement article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
Archives: Index, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8Auto-archiving period: 30 days |
This article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
On 8 December 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Barelvi to Barelvi movement. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Guidelines for developing and editing Islam-related Wikipedia articles are at: Wikipedia:MOSISLAM
“The Barelvi movement is also known as the Ahl al-Sunnah wal-Jama'ah.”
editThis is a very, very misleading statement that could potentially be divisive. As seen on the Wikipedia page for Sunni Islam, “ahl al-Sunnah wal-Jama’ah” is just a historic name for the Sunni branch of Islam. Every modern “movement” of Sunni Islam, including the Salafis and Deobandis, refer to themselves by this term while not always excluding other movements and traditions from being within it as well. 21fafs (talk) 00:20, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed BlacklightMG (talk) 22:59, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, but there's still an occurence under the Etymology section. 21fafs (talk) 23:09, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
Ahl us sunnah
editBrelvis do 2.99.45.84 (talk) 02:13, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
"Shafi'i"
editThere's not a single piece of information, a single WP:RS source saying some Barelvis adhere to the Shafi'i school. The entire article only states the Hanafi school, to which all Barelvi scholars adhered (Ahmad Raza Khan and his family, Abdul Hamid Qadri Badayuni, Ahmad Saeed Kazmi, Amjad Ali Aazmi, Ilyas Qadri etc. and all others in the 'Notable scholars' section). Barelvi books such as Fatawa-i Razawiyya, Zujajat al-Masabih, Manaqib-al-Jaleela are all Hanafi law works and all Barelvi madrasas listed in the article are Hanafi, not a single Shafi'i reference! The claim that Barelvis in Southern India adhere to Shafi'ism is simply incorrect; Sufis in southern India do in fact adhere to the Shafi'i school, although they are not specifically Barelvis, such as Sheikh Abubakr Ahmad, E. K. Aboobacker Musliyar, Abdurahman Al Bukhari. There's a difference between regular Sufis and Barelvis. 39.62.223.58 (talk) 07:41, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
@HyperShark244:, @Owais Al Qarni:, @HistoryofIran:, @21fafs:, @Apaugasma: 39.62.223.58 (talk) 08:15, 5 November 2024 (UTC)<--- sock of User:SheryOfficial
LTA
edit39.62.223.58 (talk) is a LTA. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SheryOfficial and, more importantly, here. HyperShark244 (talk) 08:35, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, and get a load of this. HyperShark244 (talk) 08:37, 5 November 2024 (UTC)