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Inconsistency of names of Ottoman admirals and generals
editSome Ottoman combatants are listed according to their (correct) Ottoman names, others by European aliases. Surely it would be more stylistically consistent to list Turgut Reis and Uluç Ali Pasha rather than "Dragut" and "Occhiali"? 82.5.12.210 (talk) 00:07, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
Untitled
editAnother depiction of the Siege is found in the second season of the show `Into the Labyrinth` — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.217.80.107 (talk) 17:52, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
Confussions in the relation of nations/empires involved in battle
editIf the Spanish imperial flag is used to represent the Spanish cooperation, then there's no need to add any other flag of any concrete Spanish land (as it was the case of Sicilia). But if, otherwise, the separated cooperation of each different Spanish land had to be underlined, then let's do it for each Spanish kingdom (not only Sicilia, but Neaples, Aragon, Mallorca, Castilla, etc. too).
If you mention the "Kingdom of Sicilia" as one of the nations involved in this battle, you should have also mentioned, separatedly, "Kingdom of Castilla" with its Castillian flag, "Kingdom of Aragon" with its Aragonesse flag, and so on.
All the different flags of each different kingdom subject to Philip II (the Habsbourg Spanish King, living in Madrid) were internationally represented under a common flag, the Saint Andrew's red cross against white background. But he was separatedly King of Castilla, Aragon, Neaples, Sicily, etc., and not King of Spain, because such a thing as "Spanish Kingdom" did not exist politically until 1714 (when Sicilia, Flanders and Neaples left the Spanish rule). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.158.235.28 (talk) 08:48, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
Incorrect religion for the Maltese in the aftermath section.
editOn the article about the Great Siege of Malta (1565), the last section mentions that Malta withstood a siege, and then makes the claim that the majority of the Maltese were Muslim during this period. This is incorrect, given the fact that Malta had been thoroughly Christianized by this time period, and that Arab rule had ended in 1090, and that, by 1249, Islam was no longer practiced by the free inhabitants of the island (see citation at the bottom). As such, the claim made earlier in the article talking about how 9,000 defenders, some Christian but most Muslim, is incorrect. The Maltese, for the vast majority of their history, as well as during this part of their history, were extremely Catholic. The only Muslims on the receiving end of the Ottoman siege were slaves captured by the knights. Below is the citation regarding the general extinction of natively practiced Islam on Malta. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.123.6.112 (talk) 00:06, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
Casualties
edit@Gala19000: and @79.47.10.222:, why can't both figures (Italian and Ottoman claims) be added, just like both Armenian and Azerbaijani claims are mentioned in the 2016 Armenian–Azerbaijani clashes article? Xwejnusgozo (talk) 22:03, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
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Discrepancy in De Valette death
editThere is a discrepancy in the cause of De Valette between this article and the particular article on him.
This article: "De Valette himself died in Buskett at a hunting accident next to the Verdala Palaces"
Article on De Valette: "La Valette suffered a stroke while praying in a chapel and died soon after on 21 August 1568, exactly eleven years after he became Grandmaster."
I do not know which is correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.191.234.106 (talk) 14:48, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
Minor Suggestion
editDragut should be mentioned in the aftermath, his death was very signifigant — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.212.127.195 (talk) 04:05, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
- Exactly, not even listed among the commanders and no mention in the whole article. Huge miss. 68.160.250.220 (talk) 17:27, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
Capture of the Fort Saint Elmo
editI think that my draft on the capture of the fort saint elmo (Draft:Capture of Fort Saint Elmo) should be accepted.
the reasons : My draft on the capture of Fort Saint Elmo should be accepted because the reason for its rejection was that it already existed on the main page of the Great Siege of Malta. However, this is not a valid excuse for invalidating my draft, as independent articles on existing battles exist on other wikis. For instance, the Battle of the Nobles in the Great Berber Revolt is covered on a different wiki, despite being related to the same subject. Berber.Enjoyer2 (talk) 17:17, 10 April 2024 (UTC)