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Latest comment: 3 months ago17 comments8 people in discussion
Published reports on 9/15/2023 suggest that she has been having a longstanding affair with Corey Lewandowski. This is significant because she portrays herself as a family values politician and because it might affect a decision to nominate her as Trump's VP running mate in 2024. This should be added. 24.151.28.29 (talk) 18:27, 15 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
I'll be honest, I thought this was just a joke and I was about to revert - but whoa, this seems to actually be a thing. Per Wiki policy of course we'll have to wait for more reliable sources to come out before adding it to the article though, as it seems only non-reliable and deprecated ones have published it so far. ser!(chat to me - see my edits)18:36, 15 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
This other stories all sourced from the same tabloid sources, Daily Mail and NYP. These stories specifically refer to them as tabloids. These are not acceptable sources. Not sure why this isn't super clear and is being discussed. Helpingtoclarify (talk) 04:08, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
It's relevant, but so far it's only the Daily Mail, all other sources are just re-reporting their story. I would wait until a better source comes out with its own story, or at least until one good source independently confirms it. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 17:46, 16 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
Yeah, only rags seem to be covering it so far. If it turns out to be verifiable, I'm confident every perennially reliable source will be on it right away. We can hold out til then. ser!(chat to me - see my edits)19:43, 16 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
Even if the claim is not solid enough to be made in wikivoice, the fact that it was alleged publicly has garnered significant media attention, and thus warrants inclusion. Peter L Griffin (talk) 03:59, 2 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
A quick search turns up CNN [1] and Washington Post [2] to name a few. Reliable local SD news outlets were also sourced at this page before someone removed them.
My claim is not so much that the rumors are definitely true but that the rumors are inherently noteworthy for inclusion as an attributed claim as a result of having been covered prominently. Peter L Griffin (talk) 05:47, 5 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Peter L Griffin: - CNN, Washington Post and Politico are good national-level sources, I would use those. Vanity Fair is a bit iffy, it's reliable for popculture, but personally I'd say it's less WP:DUE for politics. The Searchlight opinion article is unusable. CNBC also reported on it. starship.paint (RUN)07:03, 5 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 3 months ago3 comments2 people in discussion
It's odd that Noem and her defenders like to talk up her "farm", but there is little to nothing said about it here except that her father died there. It was apparently a 9,700-acre ranch that Noem inherited. She received more than $4 million in government subsidies for the ranch before she "cashed out" in 2017 so it isn't even clear that the claims about her running a "farm" where she killed her dog and goat are even true. ("Between 1995 and 2016, her family-owned Racota Valley Ranch in Hazel, S.D. cashed $3,704,415 million in government farm subsidies. In 2012 alone, they accepted $232,707 in subsidies.") I wonder what South Dakota taxpayers would think about the millions Noem received in a state where the minimum wage is $11.20 per hour. For what it is worth, it appears that Noem is on record as being against subsidies for anyone other than herself. Once again, the same story plays out: socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor. Viriditas (talk) 20:47, 27 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
These statements, in order for them to be considered for inclusion in this article, must be backed by specific Reliable sources. Also, Moral opinions may not be helpful for factual discussion. Wikipedia is for neutral factual information (WP:NPOV), as much as possible. RogerYg (talk) 22:47, 5 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I would argue that the recent dog killing incident deserves its own section
Latest comment: 3 months ago15 comments4 people in discussion
This incident seems much more relevant than others that have a dedicated section. Including Conflict of interest action to professionally benefit daughter, Fireworks at Mount Rushmore lawsuit, Governor's mansion spending, "Meth. We're on It" campaign and others. While all sections have seemingly shaped her stances and gave insight to character, this appears to be defining a part of her career and possibly losing the chance at a VP nod. Obviously if it doesn't revisions can be made then but for now it seems to be very much front facing in all media. 2604:2D80:5907:C400:F9F1:AFC5:3BDC:B240 (talk) 00:22, 3 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I agree with the significant and widespread media coverage of the "Dog Killing incident", it can no longer be just a detail in the Personal life section, and deserves a new section, or sub-section along with other related issues from her book, such as goat killings. Given the significant WP:RS sources, this is the most reported story on Kristi Noem, and hence needs a brief mention in the lead. RogerYg (talk) 05:47, 4 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
As per the discussion, a sub-section within "Personal life" section, as Dog shooting incident has been added. Since, it broadly falls more under Personal life, as compared to other major sections sections on Career. RogerYg (talk) 06:02, 4 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Brief mention in Lead, including the overall context of Farm life, along with her autobiographies:
Living in rural South Dakota, Noem is also a farmer and a rancher.[2] Noem published first autobiography, Not My First Rodeo: Lessons from the Heartland in 2022.[3] Later in 2024, in her second autobiography, No Going Back, Noem mentioned about an incident involving shooting her untrainable dog [2][4] and defended it as a "tough decision".[4][5]
Please discuss here for any relevant updates to the brief lead mention. RogerYg (talk)
Changed to Noem reportedly discussed killing her "untrainable" 14-month old dog that she "hated", while publicly defending her action as being that of a "responsible owner". (1) "reportedly" because the book chapter has not been publicly released yet, this is the Guardian's reporting. (2) changed "tough decision" because it was vague, perhaps "responsible owner" is more descriptive. (3) provided age of dog and feeling towards dog. starship.paint (RUN)08:39, 4 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
"age" of dog and "feeling towards dog" are probably details not neccecary in the lead. They are mentioned in the body.. "Hated" is a strong word for lead.
@RogerYg: - I respect your input and have changed the lede accordingly to remove "hated", I still feel that the age of the dog is needed to clarify that this is not an old dog that needed euthanasia from old age. Noem reportedly discussed killing her aggressive and "untrainable" 14-month old dog, while publicly defending her action as being that of a "responsible owner".starship.paint (RUN)08:53, 4 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
The initial coverage was based only on the Guardian's report of her disclosure. It may be heavily covered, but all of the sources that detail the story are based on the Guardian report. The book is out on Tuesday and we can edit accordingly; its publication will generate more coverage.JSFarman (talk) 17:33, 4 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
As per WP:RS sources, "Untrainable" is Noem's opinion and not factual enough to include in lead.
Also, as it was currently stated in the lead, it was not clear whether it was Noem's opinion or fact. Therefore, it had be deleted, or re-stated in different language RogerYg (talk) 06:24, 5 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Restated to clarify that these are Noem's opinions: "responsible owner" and "untrainable." Noem recounted an incident in which she shot and killed her young dog that seemed "untrainable".[4][5] Responding to widespread criticism, Noem argued that she was a "responsible owner" who made a tough decision.[6][5] RogerYg (talk) 06:46, 5 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Monthly views - April 2024 is the month with the most views dating to the start of counting in 2015. Meanwhile May 2024 is already the third or fourth highest viewed month, and will probably become the most viewed month in less than a week. No Going Back certainly seems like the biggest thing of her political career so far. starship.paint (RUN)14:55, 10 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 3 months ago3 comments3 people in discussion
Cpotisch (talk·contribs) has made the decision to move the Cricket story from the "personal life" section to the "guns" section under her gubernatorial tenure. This to me seems very misguided. Yes, the story does involve a gun but it has nothing to do with her positions or actions on gun rights as a governor. If anything it would be more relevant to animal rights, but I don't see it as being really related to her governorship at all. 203.211.79.75 (talk) 05:32, 3 May 2024 (UTC)Reply