Talk:Lucario
Lucario has been listed as one of the Video games good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it. Review: July 9, 2024. (Reviewed version). |
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A fact from Lucario appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 20 July 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows: A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/July. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lucario. |
"Pokemon Series Character"?
editLucario is a species, not a character. A character would be like Brock, or Ash's Pikachu. And Lucario is a bipedal jackal, not a dog. 69.178.54.86 (talk) 09:03, 29 February 2016 (UTC) I think he looks more like a hyena, to be honest. -A Lucario main in SSBU. --JTZegers (talk) 12:59, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
Made this article full again
editThis article was made a redirect BEFORE we knew that he was in Brawl. In light of that, I'm making it a full article again, as I believe it merits significance to be one. Purplebackpack89 (talk) 22:07, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- Hi, just because it is in Brawl doesnt mean it gets a full article. Plenty of brawl characters dont have articles. Such as Lucas, Ice Climbers, and King Dedede. Also, I would like for you to see the redone article I made a while ago here. If you can find something that talks all about Lucario, such as a magazine article, or a website interview, then that would be great! Until then Lucario will stay as a list section. Which is fine. Blake (Talk·Edits) 19:18, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
- I think it merits article status now, actually. The current section of the Pokemon article is three paragraphs longer than any other Pokemon, and the supposed consensus they cite is years old. I edited that a bit, as others have, because it needed a Brawl reference in the header. Purplebackpack89 (talk) 20:18, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
- Well, its good you think that, but nowadays, a Pokémon isnt notable untill it has very good references that say that it has influenced the world in a way. I dont think that brawl slip will work for that. I also think that Lucario should be an article. That is why I made that article in the project space. So if I ever find a reference that works, I can have everything ready to go. Until then, people will merge the article back to the list. Blake (Talk·Edits) 20:24, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
- So at least the consensus b/w us is that Lucario deserves it...too bad haters don't agree. Purplebackpack89 (talk) 20:33, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
- Well, its good you think that, but nowadays, a Pokémon isnt notable untill it has very good references that say that it has influenced the world in a way. I dont think that brawl slip will work for that. I also think that Lucario should be an article. That is why I made that article in the project space. So if I ever find a reference that works, I can have everything ready to go. Until then, people will merge the article back to the list. Blake (Talk·Edits) 20:24, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
- I think it merits article status now, actually. The current section of the Pokemon article is three paragraphs longer than any other Pokemon, and the supposed consensus they cite is years old. I edited that a bit, as others have, because it needed a Brawl reference in the header. Purplebackpack89 (talk) 20:18, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Stretchin' the Limitz
editI know Lucario is very dog-like (no denyin' it), but why is it part of WikiProject Dogs? More like fictional dog-inspired creatures. There are probably dozens of articles that are more dog-like. People learning about dogs wouldn't put Lucario as a species either, would they? 2D Backfire Master (talk) 02:03, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
- People are always adding project banners to Pokemon articles. I think its their project, so if they want to help cover this article, then they can feel free too. Most of the time, their projects don't do anything to help the article though. Blake (Talk·Edits) 14:01, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
B-class Assessment (For WikiProject Videogames)
edit1) The article is suitably referenced, with inline citations where necessary.
Pass, nothing throws itself up as a major issue.
2) The article reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain obvious omissions or inaccuracies.
Pass, covers description, appearances and reception, which will meet the casual readers needs.
3) The article has a defined structure.
Pass, the article flows well, and sections are appropriate.
4) The article is reasonably well-written.
Pass, although to obtain higher ratings perhaps it could be polished to remove a few lingering in-universe feeling parts, such as the description of Aura, and the description within video-games. (Although I am not heavily experienced with GA/FA criteria)
5) The article contains supporting materials where appropriate.
Pass, nothing leaps out as lacking here.
6) The article presents its content in an appropriately accessible way.
Pass, but issues as highlighted with item 4 may cause issue at GA and higher.
Hope this assessment helps, feel free to poke me on my talk page with comments and questions. --Taelus (talk) 18:22, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. I removed some things that were unnecessary possibly while you were looking at the article. Blake (Talk·Edits) 23:22, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
- Just noticed that now, doesn't change anything for the B-class assessment though, thanks. --Taelus (talk) 23:24, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Reception
editIsn't the reception a tad weak? With the exception of a magazine entry, it seems that most of it comes from IGN or GamesRadar. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 01:31, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, it is a tad weak. I still think it is notable. Although I could be biased, as I created the article. Blake (Talk·Edits) 01:50, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
UPDATE: Found by Hippie, will be implemented by me Soon™ : [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] Blake (Talk·Edits) 03:59, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
References
- ^ http://kotaku.com/the-best-and-worst-of-the-new-mega-evolutions-in-pokem-1446514749
- ^ http://kotaku.com/lord-helix-makes-a-most-unexpected-return-in-twitch-pl-1543901152
- ^ http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2012/11/21/top-50-poke.aspx?PostPageIndex=3&PageIndex=7
- ^ http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/01/31/lucario-revealed-for-super-smash-bros-wii-u-3ds
- ^ http://www.destructoid.com/see-the-first-set-of-mega-pokemon-in-action-259884.phtml
- ^ http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2013/08/12/analyzing-the-new-mega-pokemon.aspx?PostPageIndex=2
- ^ http://www.gamesradar.com/super-smash-bros-wii-u-characters-must-join-roster/
Cameron's Lucario
editNow that Cameron's Riolu has evolved into a Lucario in the anime, shall we discuss its appearance there? Or shall we wait a little longer? 96.243.195.35 (talk) 15:23, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
"First video game appearance"
editThe article says the Lucario first appears in Diamond and Pearl, and then later mention Mystery Dungeon. Mystery Dungeon came out in 2005, while Diamond and Pearl came out in 2006. Wouldn't that make Mystery Dungeon Lucario's first video game appearance? [Soffredo] 13:14, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
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Pokémon sun and moon ultra legends
editJust to let you all know lucario appeared in the sun and moon tv series in the Alola league as an opponent against ash.(107.77.212.234 (talk) 19:30, 13 November 2020 (UTC))
My friend is making a comic book series about someone name Lucario.
editI think that we need a article about that. 2603:8080:CD00:6407:C81A:EF4B:2A25:61 (talk) 07:02, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- I know I'm late, but was it covered by The New York Times or Entertainment Weekly? LoTrWiki (talk) 13:57, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
Should Lucario have its own page again?
editLucario is the most iconic and popular generation IV Pokémon, even more than its pre-evolved form, Riolu. Its popularity led to it being a playable fighter in the Super Smash Bros. series since Brawl and Pokkén Tournament, as well as gaining a Mega Evolution in Pokémon X and Y. It has appeared as an NPC in the PokéPark duology for the Wii and is also playable in Pokémon Unite. It technically debuted in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red and Blue Rescue Team before the official release of Pokémon Diamond and Pearl. Jake Lugo (talk) 20:47, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
GA Review
editThe following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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- This review is transcluded from Talk:Lucario/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: Pokelego999 (talk · contribs) 02:53, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: TrademarkedTWOrantula (talk · contribs) 17:57, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
MAX AURA! TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 17:57, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @TrademarkedTWOrantula, please remember to wait for a cross-check by an experienced reviewer before closing this one for the backlog drive. If you haven't got anyone in mind as your reviewer buddy, you can list it here [1]. -- asilvering (talk) 18:53, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Pokelego999: Finished. TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 19:59, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- @TrademarkedTWOrantula finished going through your comments. Let me know on some of the Reception ones, since I was a bit iffy on a few points. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 21:17, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Pokelego999: Finished. TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 19:59, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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1. Well-written: | ||
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. | Prior to reviewing, I found the grammar squeaky clean. No typos spotted. Article reads smoothly. | |
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. | Lead section is of adequate length. Article is correct per MOS:LAYOUT. Article is not overrun with words on the WTW list. Fiction is out-of-universe. List incorporation policy does not apply. | |
2. Verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check: | ||
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. | Article has a reference section. No bare URLs spotted. | |
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). | Although there are a few situational or questionable sources (TechRaptor, ComicBook), these are overshadowed by several reliable sources from WP:VG/S (e.g., TheGamer, Fanbyte, Polygon, VG247, Joystiq, Famitsu, Game Informer, and not to mention the scholarly journals). | |
2c. it contains no original research. | Spotchecking proves there is text-source integrity and, therefore, no original research. | |
2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. | According to the Earwig report, the top result is at a 13% similarity, meaning that the article is unlikely to contain any copyright violations. | |
3. Broad in its coverage: | ||
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. | The character's concept and creation, appearances, promotion, and reception all contain necessary information and address the main aspects of the topic. | |
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). | Article stays focused. | |
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. | Article is neutral; it does not try to promote or criticize the fictional character itself. | |
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. | Article is stable. | |
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio: | ||
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. | Both the Lucario artwork and the fitness program photographs are tagged with their copyright status. Both have valid non-free use rationales. | |
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. | The character artwork is useful for showing what the character looks like. The fitness program screenshot shows an example of how the character was acknowledged. | |
7. Overall assessment. | Watch the power... BLAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! |
Quickfail?
editArticle is stable.
No cleanup banners or citation needed tags spotted.
No considerable copyright violations, per Earwig.
First GA review.
No glaring issues.
Lead
edit- Recommend putting the pronunciation notes into a single footnote, as seen on MOS:PRONPLACEMENT.
- I frankly have no idea how to do this. I have tried but literally cannot figure it out (Please help, I am technologically illiterate sometimes) Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 23:37, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Use the {{Efn}} template, then make a separate section for notes. I'll do it for you. TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 23:44, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Many thanks. Efn's still confuse me to this day. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 23:47, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Game Freak is linked twice.
- as a main character?
- then as a cameo
- subsequent sequels -> later sequels
- also appearing in various merchandise, spin-off titles and animated and printed adaptations of the franchise. -> Outside of electronic media, Lucario also appears in various merchandise, spin-off titles, and animated and printed adaptations of the franchise.
- Spin-offs include video games, which are electronic media. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 23:37, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- The linked word "Aura" doesn't lead anywhere
- Bizarre. I've de-linked it, though do you believe a link to Aura (Paranormal) is warranted here due to being an adaptation of the concept? Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 23:37, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- and has been featured in several forms of merchandise, including figurines, plush toys, and the Pokémon Trading Card Game. - This could be mentioned a paragraph earlier (the part where it says it appeared in "various merchandise")
- Merged it with the prior paragraph. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 23:37, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Reception could have a short summary. What was Lucario praised for, and has it been used outside of the Pokémon franchise?
- Let me know if the expansion is sufficient. 23:37, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Looks better now. All good!
- Let me know if the expansion is sufficient. 23:37, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Concept and creation
edit- Nice copypasta as always.
- "design lead" -> "lead designer"?
- "appears to be" -> "is considered" (according to the citation, it states that people think Lucario's based on Anubis)
- Does the word "hourglass" need to be quoted?
- Probably not, good catch. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 23:39, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Try a better word for "nubile"; it gives off the wrong connotation.
- I removed it since it wasn't adding much. Today is how I learn what nubile means. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 23:39, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- So far, so good!
Appearances
edit- What's a Statue Cameo?
- 15,000 points in what?
- which detailed how certain collectibles could be applied to certain characters - I don't remember there being any collectibles?
- There are collectibles (Stickers, in this case, though it's easier not to name them in the case of this article.) Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 00:51, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- "predominately Shaolin Kung Fu" -> "including Shaolin Kung Fu"?
- now being voiced by Sean Schemmel - Might want to clarify that Schemmel didn't just voice the character in Ultimate alone
- and has made Lucario's attacks riskier - ???
- What's the Tree of Beginning?
- Removed reference for simplicity's sake. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 00:51, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Other Lucario later appear in the series. - The TV show?
Promotion and reception
edit- Cut "having been" in "having been released"
- Described in a press release as being used due to its characteristics of "Futsu no Kokoro" and "Seishinryoku" - What are those?
- I admittedly have no idea, so I've elected to simplify the text here. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 21:16, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- in similar promotions across Japan to promote fitness - Tautology... ahhhh
- Would recommend linking this article somewhere around the part where it mentions that Lucario was used for... uh... "entertainment".
- May god have mercy on my soul. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 21:16, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Called the "unofficial poster child" for Pokémon from Diamond and Pearl by IGN's Dale Bashir, he further called it one of the best designs in the franchise - Misplaced modifier (he's the "best design" in the franchise, as he so claims)
- Bit confused on what you want me to change here, but I've changed he to "Bashir." Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 21:16, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Seeing an odd repetition of "noting that" and "noted that". Usually, the word "note", the verb, is used for facts. (see MOS:NOTE)
- MOS:NOTE seems to only apply to the prose, and when the writer of the article intends to speak to readers directly. There's no mention made of it being used in Reception, akin to how it is here. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 21:16, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- tone of facial mannerisms - So like, body language?
- Reworded to this for simplicity. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 21:16, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- He closed with noting that - Confused.
- They felt too the character's death fulfilled its own knightly narrative - Medieval quote, medieval-ish writing...
- I have removed "too" from the narrative with utmost haste. (Technically the sentence is fine but the "too" convolutes things. Let me know if that fixes it.) Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 21:16, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Looks like everything's up to order. TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 22:29, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Spotchecking
edit- Since it's basically midnight and I get more sleep than a... something that doesn't sleep a lot, I'm only gonna check three sources. Sorry :( (this revision)
- #6
- #33
- #44
Assist review
editCross-check review as requested by Asilvering (talk · contribs)
- The article itself is in great shape actually. The non-free images used have valid non-free use rationales, and it's cited to reliable sources.
- Spot checks:
- Refs 3, 20, 24, 40, 44 (oofs) all supports the statements
- Ref 53 doesn't have the quoted phrase "inferior copy", but generally supports the criticisms by the author.
That's all for me.--ZKang123 (talk) 07:33, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Removed the "inferior copy" quotation. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 19:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
edit- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Hey man im josh talk 14:38, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Source: "【ポケモン】ルカリオが"ラジオ体操応援ポケモン"に就任。ウェブ動画では子どもたちと元気よくラジオ体操を行う姿を披露". Famitsu (in Japanese). 2022-04-12. Archived from the original on December 16, 2023. Retrieved 2023-12-17.
Ryukyu, Asahi (2022-10-24). "ポケモンキャラがラジオ体操普及に一役". 5channel (in Japanese). Archived from the original on December 16, 2023. Retrieved 2023-12-17.
Krista, Rogers (2022-04-19). "Pokémon Lucario becomes official radio calisthenics promoter for kids across Japan【Video】". SoraNews24. Archived from the original on December 16, 2023. Retrieved 2023-12-16.lunaeclipse (talk) 14:35, 10 July 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: The hook is verified by the English-language source. I am not literate in Japanese so I used a machine translator; the machine translations of the two Japanese-language sources also verified the hook. I spot checked the English-language sources for close paraphrasing and found no issues. Keeping this in mind and the fact that this article was promoted to GA status before the nomination, I am assuming in good faith that the English translations of the Japanese-language sources would not turn up close paraphrasing issues either.