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Orphaned references in List of recurring Arrow characters

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I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of List of recurring Arrow characters's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "HeatWave":

  • From Legends of Tomorrow (season 1): Andreeva, Nellie (March 16, 2015). "Dominic Purcell Joins Arrow/Flash Spinoff". Deadline Hollywood. Archived from the original on March 18, 2015. Retrieved March 16, 2015. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |dead-url= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
  • From List of Legends of Tomorrow characters: Andreeva, Nellie (March 16, 2015). "Dominic Purcell Joins Arrow/Flash Spinoff". Deadline. Retrieved March 16, 2015.
  • From Legends of Tomorrow: Andreeva, Nellie (March 16, 2015). "Dominic Purcell Joins Arrow/Flash Spinoff". Deadline Hollywood. Archived from the original on March 18, 2015. Retrieved March 16, 2015. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

Reference named "Sabongui":

Reference named "Drameh":

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 21:17, 17 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Guest stars combined with recurring characters

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@Autumnking2012: Since you combined the guest stars with the recurring characters, I'm not sure if the current article's title is appropriate. Also shouldn't we separate the two different types on this article? - Brojam (talk) 22:09, 17 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

I agree there are potential issues with the title, something I realised after I moved it! My reasoning behind including both recurring and guest characters in this article were accesibility, navigability and the often blurred lines between these lists in the original article. For a user of the encyclopedia, wishing to read about secondary characters in Arrow, the arbitary seperation seems unnecessary and less navigable. Additionally, this article is for characters, not actors, so the definitions of 'guest' and 'recurring' aren't as applicable as they would be if it were the other way round. If editors feel it is important to include appearance information, such as guest/recurring status or number of episodes, we could add that information as a single row table above each character, or convert each letter grouping into a table, so as to include it? Personally I am not sure it is neccesary, as much of that information is available in the List of Arrow characters#Recurring characters article. Regarding the title, if we keep the current format, it really should be List of minor Arrow characters. If there are no objections to such, it should probably be moved to that. In addition, I would also be of the opinion that there is not enough here to justify a seperate article for guest stars. AutumnKing (talk) 08:08, 18 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
If the page size isn't an issue, then just the title needs to be changed. --Gonnym (talk) 08:24, 18 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
Perhaps List of secondary Arrow characters would suffice. --Kailash29792 (talk) 11:22, 18 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
I'm not against that name, but "secondary" just seems a bit off. While longer, "List of Arrowverse guest and recurring characters" / "List of guest and recurring Arrowverse characters" (not sure how this should go as I've seen articles do it both ways) clearly states what the article is much clearer. --Gonnym (talk) 11:50, 18 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
I had thought that this may be the most accurate, but was not sure if it would be considered too long. Should be noted that it would need to be Arrow characters not Arrowverse, as that is the scope of the article. AutumnKing (talk) 11:58, 18 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
Yes, sorry. Was in the midst of fixing character articles with "Arrowverse" in them so didn't even notice I was writing that. --Gonnym (talk) 12:18, 18 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Am wondering if List of supporting Arrow characters would be more suitable? AutumnKing (talk) 21:12, 18 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

I'm good with "supporting characters" since "guest and recurring characters" seems a bit too long. - Brojam (talk) 01:48, 22 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Getting back to this - we have a few proposed options: List of minor Arrow characters, List of secondary Arrow characters, List of guest and recurring Arrow characters, List of supporting Arrow characters. Could we pick one that would better identify the scope, as it clearly is not only recurring characters here. --Gonnym (talk) 10:21, 7 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 21 January 2019

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The result of the move request was: Not moved (non-admin closure) Iffy★Chat -- 20:37, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply


– Picking two of these out of the hat... – but I'm proposing moving these to a more logical naming scheme (I guess, per WP:PRECISE). Put another way, the modifiers here, "recurring" or "minor", refer to the word "characters", not to the words "Arrow" or "Angel" – "Arrow" and "Angel" then identify the whole thing (e.g. "recurring characters"). Doing so will also make these easier to search (i.e. typing in the words "List of Arrow..." will bring it up, rather than having to search "List of recurring..."). --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:34, 21 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

If the name is going to be changed, baring in mind the discussion before this one on this page, may I suggest 'List of Arrow supporting characters' as an alternative? AutumnKing (talk) 21:43, 21 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
Either would be fine with me – I'm more concerned about fixing the "List of recurring/supporting/minor [show] characters" naming format issue so that the format is correctly "List of [show] recurring/supporting/minor characters" for these types of articles... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 01:37, 22 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • Slight Oppose, to me the order reads as the correct one. The change suggested is the one that sounds awkward. Brains work differently, and mine says that there is nothing broken. Randy Kryn (talk) 01:50, 22 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • I agree with the change of placement of Arrow but think we should wait till the above discussion has concluded to avoid two moves. @IJBall: Any reason why you picked these two and not the other lists with the same issue? [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11]. - Brojam (talk) 01:58, 22 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose: The current wording reads and sounds more correct and natural to me. The proposed reasoning is fair, but I don't agree with a need to change the format of such articles. -- Whats new?(talk) 10:23, 22 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
    • Think of it this way – if we got rid of the "list part", would the title be be "Recurring characters of Arrow" or "Arrow characters of recurring"?! (See what I did there!  ) Recurring clearly modifies "characters" not "Arrow", so "recurring characters" is the "unit" with "Arrow" then adding additional information on to that. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 14:34, 22 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
      • The 'of' would also be removed in that case, and the title would then be 'Recurring Arrow characters', which makes perfect sense. Randy Kryn (talk) 17:05, 22 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
        • Again, just to clarify, this is less a "grammatical" argument, and more an "article titling" argument – as an article title, "Arrow recurring characters" would be better for exactly the same reason – people would easily find it by typing "Arrow" in the search box – the other way, you'd type in "Recurring" and get a bunch of article search returns that would not be relevant. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:37, 22 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
          • I don't think article titles should be based on what method of searching you think is easier. If I wanted to find an article on recurring Arrow characters, I would enter that term and click search or press enter, not wade through a drop down box which doesn't appear half the time for me when searching anyway. The way you search articles is not the same method for everyone, and again, I don't think it is a strong basis to choose titles. -- Whats new?(talk) 06:45, 23 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose per others. The current titles seem natural and correct to me as well, while the proposed alternative is a bit... clunky? No preference with regard to "recurring" vs "supporting". PC78 (talk) 19:41, 22 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
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Requested move 4 April 2019

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The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) Danski454 (talk) 18:37, 11 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

List of recurring Arrow characters → List of supporting Arrow characters – Picking up from Talk:List of recurring Arrow characters#Guest stars combined with recurring characters - the article does not list only recurring characters. From the options raised in the above discussion, this seems to be the most accepted title. Gonnym (talk) 10:12, 4 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

Well, as per the discussion above, I could support List of Arrow supporting characters (but I'm probably alone on this...). --IJBall (contribs • talk) 12:50, 4 April 2019 (UTC)Reply
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"Boots" Sheck listed at Redirects for discussion

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