The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Rihanna was asked to stay at the Def Jam Recordings office until 3:00 a.m. in order to sign a contract, so that she would not sign with another label?
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Latest comment: 2 months ago7 comments5 people in discussion
Could someone add that she is a "songwriter" in the beginning of the biography? She has writing credits in almost half of her discography and that seems like an appropriate and accurate thing to add. Julioplantain (talk) 07:27, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Julioplantain: Adding it to the lede may require further discussions since Rihanna is not highly regarded as a songwriter (and some editors would object), but I made sure to re-add it to the infobox where its inclusion is totally justified. The article mentions her songwriting, and she currently has 138 songwriting credits. Only problem is, certain editors sometimes remove it from the infobox based on personal feelings. FMSky has days ago removed it from the infobox because they feel it's "disrespectful to the people actually writing her songs."[1] That kind of POV is not encyclopedic at all, and we already went though that when debating whether or not Beyoncé should be presented as a songwriter. Besides, they cannot prove all of Rihanna's 138 credits were stolen, and it's not the first time they make such edits.
@BD2412 and Popcornfud: Would you agree that "disrespectful to the people actually writing her songs" is pure POV? It's like someone claiming Kendrick Lamar is a real songwriter, while Drake is not; Lady Gaga is a real songwriter, while Madonna is not... I'm afraid such personal opinions don't belong on here. Israell (talk) 01:13, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
I will put it this way. I see someone like Roy Banks, who played two undistinguished seasons in the NFL in the 1980s, after having been a fifth-round draft pick, and marked no stats, and no one is suggesting that "American football wide receiver" be removed from his description out of respect for "the people actually receiving the ball". BD2412T02:03, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@FMSky: As explained by the admin just above, based on WP:Verifiability, the content of this encyclopedia is based on sourced information (138 songwriting credits, conformation of collaborative songwriting, awards, etc.) rather than one's personal opinion (of the worthiness of the songwriting of an artist, etc.). The lede is for the primary most notable professions, whereas the infobox is for the primary and secondary most known or notable professions. On that note, Rihanna was one of the songwriters nominated for composing the song "Lift Me Up" at the 2022 Golden Globes Awards.[1] That song also won five awards.[2]Israell (talk) 17:05, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Being "disrespectful to people writing the songs" or whatever isn't a valid reason to say she is or isn't a songwriter — but neither is a personal assessment about her work.
We go by reliable sources. If numerous reliable sources describe her as a songwriter then I'd support the inclusion in the infobox, but if not let's leave it out. The infobox should describe main roles. Popcornfud (talk) 12:28, 21 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
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What I think should be changed (format using {{textdiff}}):
I would recommend a change from
"Rihanna went to Rogers's hotel room, where she performed renditions"
to
"Rihanna performed renditions"
Sorry that I cannot find info on what tl|textdiff is.
Why it should be changed:
Where the renditions occurred is irrelevant. The wording seems to imply maybe something vaguely inappropriate? But it doesn't make that implication explicit, so it ends up seeming irrelevant.
References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):
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Change the genre order from Pop, R&B, dance, hip hop reggae to R&B, pop, reggae, hip hop, dance as they are sourced in that order and also remove electronic as that is NOT sourced anywhere in the article. Justinaintime (talk) 05:47, 14 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Unless the mods/admin declared the account as a socket puppet, then i see no reason to discount what they are saying. Certain genres in the infobox lack sources. Especially genres where Rihanna is not particularly known for, such as reggae - this should have sources to back this up as per r WP: EXPLICITGENREKoppite1 (talk) 16:00, 14 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
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Change the genres to include reggae, she had two albums with reggae on them, she started off as a reggae singer and her artistry section it is sourced countless times as being one of her prominent genres. So why is it not included? 109.144.20.125 (talk) 20:34, 15 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
I would strongly advise igoring any requests from IPs on this talk page for the next few days. There are two site banned and globally locked users, each of whom jump frequently between different IP ranges, edit warring by proxy on this and a number of other pages. We may end up protecting the talk pages, but for now let's just take any new edit requests with a pinch of salt. GirthSummit (blether)23:25, 15 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
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Add reggae and dancehall into her genres as they are sourced and the article states that she returned to her reggae and dancehall roots during her Loud and Talk That Talk albums. Partyymixx (talk) 10:57, 16 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Excuse me @Btspurplegalaxy, I'm not, if you go through the history you will see reggae has always been sourced, why DollysOnMyMind removed it is beyond me and it should be reinstated as that was removed by a sock edit Partyymixx (talk) 19:16, 16 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Neither am I but, if you were to read the article and stop being stubborn, you would see it calls her a reggae singer and it should be included in her genre section Partyymixx (talk) 19:26, 16 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
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In the artistry section under influences it states that during childhood Rihanna use to sing Whitney Houston songs and Houston's song "I Will Always Love You" made her develop a passion for music, but it doesn't state how Whitney Houston influenced her like it states Madonna and Mariah Carey influenced her, it just states that she use to sing Whitney Houston songs I wanted to add that Rihanna was also inspired by Whitney Houston as well and also add that Houston's song "I Will Always Love You" influenced her to do music as with citations. Wikikingeditor (talk) 19:53, 29 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
AllMusic also states she does EDM and dancehall but you conveniently forgot to mention that didn’t you? There all all other genres that are sourced throughout her page such as hip hop, dubstep, and reggae why didn’t you mention them too? 78.190.123.200 (talk) 09:49, 21 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
level-5 vital article is rated GA-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 16:49, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Done Reworded to "Rihanna later performed renditions of Destiny's Child's "Emotion" and Mariah Carey's "Hero"." Clearfrienda 💬 16:07, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Rainsage (talk) 23:46, 29 September 2024 (UTC)